**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 11 02:59:56 2009 Nov 11 07:56:58 Buongiorno! Nov 11 08:27:08 any news? Nov 11 08:53:37 Hi! How can I comment on trac tickets? Do I need an account? How can I open one? Nov 11 08:55:55 Dunno, perhaps iurgi knows? Nov 11 09:00:01 oi Blathjis :) Nov 11 09:16:49 Another thing: I am experiencing a strange feature of my 2.0n: I am pinging between a laptop and the 2.0n over wifi. When I ping from the laptop to the 2.0n, everything seems fine, but when I ssh to the 2.0n and ping my laptop from there, I get between 30 and 40 percent packet loss. And actually, surfing the web often hangs when loading pages. Nov 11 09:17:28 I just found out: If I let a quick ping running (flood or 0.2 s interval) from my laptop to the 2.0n, then the ping in the other direction also works without packet loss. Nov 11 09:17:31 Any ideas? Nov 11 09:17:38 Funny Nov 11 09:18:11 I guess that maybe the transmitters go into power-saving after some milliseconds maybe? Nov 11 09:18:16 The weird thing is that a ping is always two directions, so the direction only makes a difference for the order Nov 11 09:18:23 eijk: Yeah, perhaps something like that Nov 11 09:18:34 I don't have that problem with a WRT54G. Nov 11 09:18:40 eijk: But then I would suspect the problem to be at your client Nov 11 09:19:01 blathijs: Right, I thought about that as well. Nov 11 09:19:20 eijk: Do you have a 11n client, or just 11g? Nov 11 09:19:25 No, it's with the 2.0n because I also see it between the 2.0n and the WRT54G in client mode. Nov 11 09:20:33 When the WRT is in client mode, or the 2.0n is in client mode? Nov 11 09:20:47 I'll check again, but overall the "network experience" I have with the 2.0n is rather bad compared to my WRT54G and I am looking for reasons. So I came accross this ping issue... Nov 11 09:20:52 WRT Nov 11 09:21:00 The 2.0n I couldn't get into client mode yet. Nov 11 09:21:00 You could see if switching your 2.0n to b/g only mode, see if that helps (perhaps its some g/n compat issue?) Nov 11 09:21:09 Tried that. Nov 11 09:21:20 Lemme guess, didn't help? :-p Nov 11 09:21:25 Had it running on g only for a few days with the same problems. Nov 11 09:22:02 Only thought: Maybe it's because I changed that and went back to bgn, but didn't help either. Nov 11 09:22:20 Anyway, can you try reproduce that on your 2.0n? Nov 11 09:22:36 Probably most people don't ping "backward" and wouldn't notice. Nov 11 09:22:45 Yeah, I had that thought as well Nov 11 09:22:51 It seems it's important that the client sends before the reply. Nov 11 09:23:25 I'll give it a try (but not before tonight, and perhaps not before next week) Nov 11 09:23:30 Remind me :-) Nov 11 09:24:03 Ok, I have a different second laptop here, I'll try it with that. Nov 11 09:24:31 That would help. Different chipset? Nov 11 09:24:38 Ok, any settings I could tweak somewhere? I found that /tmp/RT2860.dat . Nov 11 09:25:03 I think that contains the settings for the driver, yes, but you'll need to reload the module to tweak them. Nov 11 09:25:49 Ok. Nov 11 09:26:01 18:11 < iosonoio> who writes the RT2860.dat file? Nov 11 09:26:01 18:11 < iosonoio> there is some rules to edit it? Nov 11 09:26:01 18:11 < xMff> it is generated by /lib/wifi/rt...sh Nov 11 09:26:58 Ok, np. Is there any documentation on the parameters other than their name? ;-) Nov 11 09:27:23 Like DtimPeriod? Nov 11 09:27:44 Or WirelessMode? Nov 11 09:27:47 Dunno, perhaps at Ralink. I think these drivers are supplied by them directly Nov 11 09:27:57 I see. Nov 11 09:28:31 (But they are completely opensource AFAIK, so you should be able to find them somewhere at ralink) Nov 11 10:04:43 Actually, from the other laptop, I couldn't reproduce it ... Nov 11 10:05:28 funky Nov 11 10:05:35 Did you disconnect all other devices? Nov 11 10:05:59 (It would be interesting to see if you can ping your WRT while you are flooding from your laptop, btw) Nov 11 10:08:32 FON FW is based on OpenWRT. Check at https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk/target/linux/ramips/rt305x Nov 11 10:09:31 ninch2: That doesn't seem to concern the RT2860 wireless driver, right? Or weren't you referring to eijk? Nov 11 10:12:23 Ok, seems to have to do with my laptops BCM4328. Nov 11 10:12:34 "iwpriv eth1 set_pm 0" helps Nov 11 10:12:36 ? Nov 11 10:12:56 Fonera 2.0n has Ralink 3052 chip... Nov 11 10:13:21 I'll check with the ping between 2.0n and WRT later. Nov 11 10:13:34 But RT288x & RT305x are sister chipsets. Nov 11 10:14:26 eijk: Funny. Does your WRT have a similar chipset perhaps? Nov 11 10:14:42 Check https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk/target/linux/ramips Nov 11 10:14:55 eijk: Perhaps there is still something wrong with the 2.0n of course, that triggers some PM weirdness Nov 11 10:15:39 ninch2: But those are board configs, not the wireless drivers. What are you trying to say with these links? Nov 11 10:25:30 blathijs: No, I think the WRT has an Atheros chipset. But yes, the PM weirdness can e.g. cause problems for handheld devices like the maemo-based Nokia tablets. Nov 11 10:25:55 blathijs: The old fonera caused problems for those, e.g. Nov 11 15:56:51 im back Nov 11 15:56:55 some news? Nov 11 15:58:19 Yes, Real Madrid is out of the Spanish Cup Nov 11 15:58:33 :-d Nov 11 15:58:42 XD Nov 11 15:58:56 I'm sorry to say I don't regret it much... Nov 11 15:59:03 I mean... alcorcon... come on Nov 11 15:59:19 no offense, but... well... I expected more Nov 11 15:59:38 s/regret/feel sorry/ Nov 11 15:59:43 That millionaire bastards... Nov 11 16:00:13 I don't know who's 'error' it is but... Nov 11 16:14:27 lol Nov 11 16:17:05 iurgi Nov 11 16:17:27 you know that in japan Nov 11 16:17:35 fonera 2.0n is white? Nov 11 16:37:04 humm, I'd love to have the white one... Nov 11 16:39:09 looks good: http://blog.fon.com/nl/archive/events/de-witte-fonera-20n.html Nov 11 16:39:38 It fits better with the other Fonera's. Nov 11 16:40:16 y Nov 11 17:25:02 eijk: http://svn.dd-wrt.com:8000/dd-wrt/browser/src/router/services/networking/rt2880.c?rev=11624 Nov 11 17:25:23 eijk: there you should find enough info on the params and their meaning Nov 11 17:27:03 what is? Nov 11 17:27:22 C Nov 11 17:28:01 C? Nov 11 17:29:32 hi everyone Nov 11 17:30:39 does anyone knows ETA for the next firmware for fon 2n Nov 11 17:30:46 ? Nov 11 17:32:11 dunno Nov 11 17:32:28 Iurgi tell me that it must have released in last week, but there are some problems Nov 11 17:35:42 no Nov 11 17:35:48 I said a testing version was to be released Nov 11 17:35:52 not a new release Nov 11 17:35:55 or that's what I meant Nov 11 17:35:56 :) Nov 11 17:37:58 thank you for correct me :P Nov 11 17:50:06 hehhe ok Nov 11 17:50:54 will it address the access the WanGui from exterior? Nov 11 18:11:54 * Barbon back Nov 11 18:29:05 hi! Nov 11 18:38:43 weeeeee Nov 11 19:50:02 http://pastebin.com/m205ee4d3 Nov 11 19:53:01 joseph: Hmm, it does seem that that url has the right architecture (mipsel) Nov 11 19:53:23 joseph: It's not the right board, but that's probably less important for packages (more a kernel and drivers thing) Nov 11 19:53:44 joseph: Did you perhaps install opkg and ushare using the urls from the first forum link you pasted first? Nov 11 19:55:50 honestly I do not remember Nov 11 19:57:03 I've done something bad, right? Nov 11 19:58:40 joseph: Possibly :-) Nov 11 19:58:59 ops! Nov 11 19:59:36 How can I recover? Nov 11 19:59:49 The easy way would be to reflash and start over, I guess. Alternatively, you could try to download the right .ipk file for opkg, untar that (it's really a .tar.gz file), then untar the contained data.tar.gz in / to fix opkg Nov 11 20:00:06 However, I find it funny that your opkg is broken as well, since that comes preinstalled AFAIK Nov 11 20:00:11 or do you remember (re)installing opkg? Nov 11 20:02:11 I can see if I can but now I have to get away for an hour Nov 11 20:02:21 thanks and sorry for my English Nov 11 20:04:05 ci sentiamo dopo (se sei di nuovo qui) Nov 11 20:04:33 we feel after (if you're here again) Nov 11 20:04:45 bye Nov 11 20:06:09 "we feel after" <-- You probably mean, we'll talk afterwards or something? :-) Nov 11 20:08:59 yes: we'll talk afterwards :-) (and sorry for my bad english, again) Nov 11 20:10:05 joseph: No problem, I've seen a lot worse :-p Nov 11 20:17:24 Heail Iurgi o/ Nov 11 20:18:39 Eh? Nov 11 20:21:07 omg i epic fail Nov 11 20:21:09 sorry Nov 11 23:20:37 blathijs, are you online? Nov 11 23:22:32 he is afk Nov 11 23:24:33 ok tks Nov 11 23:26:18 I wanted to tell him that I installed manually and I solved all opkg Nov 11 23:28:43 * I wanted to tell him that I installed manually opkg and so I solved all my problems Nov 11 23:28:54 good night! Nov 11 23:52:52 notte Nov 11 23:52:55 goodnight! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Nov 12 02:59:57 2009