**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 02 02:59:57 2009 Dec 02 08:19:21 Buongiorno! Dec 02 09:56:35 ciao Dec 02 10:10:08 Hello? Dec 02 10:11:55 hello? Dec 02 10:12:05 hi iurgi Dec 02 10:12:17 do you know create multiple users (with different rights) in the server ftp of the fonera? Dec 02 10:12:23 hmmm Dec 02 10:12:24 no Dec 02 10:12:39 but it's a common ftp application Dec 02 10:12:47 you can look on the internet for it's configuration Dec 02 10:12:51 why would you need that? Dec 02 10:13:12 yes... Dec 02 10:14:47 I would have some folders that can be viewed by friends (by ftp) Dec 02 10:15:36 but that they can't delete or write the files. Dec 02 10:16:01 and only some directory and not all Dec 02 10:18:31 I saw that this functionality is offered by many nas and I'd have it in Fonera Dec 02 10:21:09 well, it's not officially supported Dec 02 10:21:17 but you can manually try to set it up Dec 02 10:21:22 shouldn't be veeeeeery difficult Dec 02 10:25:03 I'm reading that the fonera uses Pure-FTPd. Now I search some manual on the internet. Dec 02 10:26:40 Is possible that in future this feature will be built into the firmware? Dec 02 10:29:23 hmmm Dec 02 10:29:26 unlikely, but maybe Dec 02 10:34:09 I read that this week there will be a new rc Fonera... there will be only bug fixes? or even new features Dec 02 10:38:39 iurgi: If you're going to release a new version soon, could you please make sure that all version numbers and logo's etc. are correct? It's been very confusing that for example 2.3.0.1-RC1 for 2.0g has the wrong version login logo (and even wrong version in the dashboard IIRC) Dec 02 10:42:17 I had also pointed out (in the trac) some mistakes in Italian translation, and a way to fix the hours reported by the Fonera Dec 02 10:42:44 *fix the time Dec 02 12:13:16 hi all Dec 02 12:13:54 there is someone that can help me about a mount on fonera 2.0n? Dec 02 12:14:56 hi Dec 02 12:15:28 hi Dec 02 12:15:52 ask Dec 02 13:10:52 Ciao giuseppeg88! Intesserebbe anche a avere diversi user ftp.... Dec 02 13:41:40 someone here know how mount a remote samba directory in the fonera 2.0n? Dec 02 14:03:10 danicasti: I find http://www.pureftpd.org/README.Virtual-Users and http://www.macosx.it/index.php/site/articolo/installiamo_un_server_ftp/ Dec 02 14:03:51 I try the comand (via ssh): "pure-pw useradd prova -u www -g staff -d /tmp/pen/mounts/downloads/" and "pure-pw mkdb" Dec 02 14:05:09 but with new user "prova" via ftp I receve the error "425 no data connection fonera" when I do "ls" Dec 02 14:06:13 can you help me and try it? or seach how to do it? Dec 02 14:06:47 *seach --> search Dec 02 14:09:18 has someone tried to enable ipv6 on 2.0n ? Dec 02 14:38:50 gchocho i m looking for it too Dec 02 14:39:11 the guide on open-wrt linked in the board not work really much Dec 02 14:39:34 it give error at insmod ipv6 Dec 02 14:41:40 so do i Dec 02 14:42:11 mmascolo: I think there were some people on the forums that were fiddling with ipv6 Dec 02 14:43:50 there is http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/ticket/328 opened 5 months ago Dec 02 14:45:58 most like the fon kernel is compiled w/o ipv6 support Dec 02 14:46:40 indeed, but you could add the module if you get it somewhere Dec 02 14:47:08 no Dec 02 14:47:36 if the kernel was built without v6 support you can't load the external module since the kernel image is lacking essential symbols then Dec 02 14:47:51 Hmm, good point :-) Dec 02 17:38:41 hi all Dec 02 17:39:59 a friend of mine has just registered the fonera 2.0n and he has done the firmware upgrade, the upgrade finished, but now the fonera keeps rebooting every 2-3 minutes.... now it's working (he's connected and we're talking on Skype), but in 2 minutes he will go offline again Dec 02 17:40:08 because F 2,0n keeps rebooting :( Dec 02 17:40:11 how can he fix this? Dec 02 17:42:56 anyone alive? Dec 02 17:43:10 yes, but I can't say much... Dec 02 17:43:15 hi Andy80 Dec 02 17:43:17 hi.. Dec 02 17:43:28 it's not much info to give any help :( Dec 02 17:43:46 can he try to disconnect power and reconnect it? Dec 02 17:44:08 sure Dec 02 17:44:09 ;) Dec 02 17:44:21 got a meeting :I hope someone can help you Dec 02 17:44:27 but I never heard such a bug Dec 02 17:44:30 will be back later Dec 02 17:45:15 ok... see ya later Dec 02 17:51:14 this f20n looks worse than 20g :( Dec 02 17:52:03 maybe is something related to this bug: http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/ticket/410 Dec 02 17:56:44 every time I commit the same error... I think the next fonera is going to be better, I buy it and then it's worse than previous one :( Dec 02 17:56:57 is because it have a noob firmware Dec 02 17:57:04 fon 2.0n is BETTER Dec 02 17:57:12 but the firmware suck :) Dec 02 17:58:22 Andy80 you have to wait the nex firmware Dec 02 17:58:43 but this really sucks Dec 02 17:58:53 because I've already PAIED Dec 02 17:58:59 for a product that is not ready Dec 02 17:59:11 I'm really tired about this Fon's policy Dec 02 17:59:15 it's absurd! Dec 02 17:59:35 if they want betatester, please pay them and don't sell the product to the public Dec 02 17:59:56 it's not correct at all that people spend their own money on a product that is not finished at all Dec 02 18:00:00 that it's unisable Dec 02 18:00:04 since it keeps rebooting Dec 02 18:01:57 mine dont reboot Dec 02 18:02:05 is usable :P Dec 02 18:02:07 http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/ticket/410 Dec 02 18:02:09 read this Dec 02 18:02:15 maybe you're not using any voip Dec 02 18:03:07 what is the latest, in development firmware here: http://download.fonosfera.org/RC/ ? Dec 02 18:03:50 http://download.fonosfera.org/RC/20090915_FON2303_2.3.0.0_RC4_DEV.tgz <---- ? Dec 02 18:08:53 Barbon: do you use any voip software? Dec 02 18:10:36 mmm Dec 02 18:10:38 team speak Dec 02 18:10:47 and work nice Dec 02 18:11:39 Barbon: read this: http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/ticket/410 Dec 02 18:11:52 Barbon: (ah ma sei italiano -.- e dilloooo :P ) Dec 02 18:12:10 e li mortacci xD Dec 02 18:12:12 haah Dec 02 18:13:57 look Dec 02 18:14:03 these are my bots Xd Dec 02 18:14:24 hello all Dec 02 18:14:24 hello all Dec 02 18:14:24 hello all Dec 02 18:14:38 ahah Dec 02 18:14:47 :P Dec 02 18:17:21 Andry nn saprei il tuo problema Dec 02 18:17:27 nn ho provato skype Dec 02 18:17:28 uso teamspeaking Dec 02 18:17:36 che funziona Dec 02 18:21:33 Barbon: con Skype e basta non crasha.... scommetto però che se gli faccio riattaccare il suo telefono voip gli si resetta di nuovo... Dec 02 18:21:46 Barbon: cmq... tu che firmware hai? quello che ti ho linkato prima? Dec 02 18:21:53 sì l'ultimo Dec 02 18:22:15 p.s: per altro nonostante mi abbia aperto TUTTO sul firewall, io da qui non riesco piu' ad entrare nella sua dashboard (siamo distanti geograficamente eh...) Dec 02 18:23:01 il firewall nn serve a una cipra Dec 02 18:23:09 rompe le balle e basta Dec 02 18:23:19 infatti il bridge serve per quello Dec 02 18:23:20 :) Dec 02 18:26:46 eh ma prima riuscivo a connettermi Dec 02 18:26:48 ora proprio no... Dec 02 18:26:53 cmq gli sto facendo mettere l'ultimo fw Dec 02 18:26:57 quello che ti ho linkato Dec 02 18:27:02 vediamo se a riflashare Dec 02 18:27:04 risolvo qualcosa... Dec 02 18:27:41 al max reseta Dec 02 18:30:06 hello! Dec 02 18:34:04 Barbon: ha finito ora l'aggiornamento Dec 02 18:34:13 ok fammi sapere Dec 02 18:35:10 Barbon: ci sto parlando su skype... ancora non si è resettato niente... Dec 02 18:35:21 ma ancora non riesco a connettermi... ora stiamo finendo di aggiustare dele cose Dec 02 18:35:27 aggiornamento? Dec 02 18:35:41 che qualche firmware nuovo? Dec 02 18:35:48 cè Dec 02 18:36:07 macchè quello preastorico Dec 02 18:36:09 xD Dec 02 18:37:45 loro dicono che sta per uscire il nuevo Dec 02 18:37:59 ma sonno già 2 messi Dec 02 18:38:38 esce prox settimana Dec 02 18:38:46 dopo 4 mesi -.- Dec 02 18:39:04 dunque... Dec 02 18:39:10 io ancora non riesco a connettermi da fuori :( Dec 02 18:39:23 se volete provare pure voi: http://chicojobs.dyndns.org Dec 02 18:39:28 mi da connection refused :( Dec 02 18:39:55 ti serve quella cazzo di bridge Dec 02 18:40:54 ne dubito perchè fanno quei cazzo di plugin che richiedono quella cazzo di bridge xD Dec 02 18:41:42 per fare qualcosa colla fonera debbi essere ingeniere Dec 02 18:41:55 eh sì Dec 02 18:42:14 Barbon: che intendi per bridge? cosa devo impostare? Dec 02 18:42:47 nITRO_: sei connesso con Ono... ma che sei in Spagna pure tu :P ? Dec 02 18:42:47 io ho la webcam e non ho potuto farla vedere da fuori mai Dec 02 18:42:54 si Dec 02 18:42:59 beccaaa :D Dec 02 18:43:04 io Valencia ;) Dec 02 18:43:08 jajaj Dec 02 18:43:24 erasmus? Dec 02 18:43:38 sonno spagnolo Dec 02 18:43:47 ah, lo siento :P Dec 02 18:43:47 ma ho fatto l'erasmus due anni fa Dec 02 18:43:55 andy80: devi cliccare in https://chicojobs.dyndns.org/ Dec 02 18:44:10 ;) Dec 02 18:44:53 o_o Dec 02 18:45:03 ahhhhh Dec 02 18:45:05 ecco Dec 02 18:45:08 cm si faceva Dec 02 18:45:09 xD Dec 02 18:45:13 giuseppeg88: si, con https si connette... ma mi da password errata... ora vediamo se è stata resettata :) Dec 02 18:45:22 p.s: ma parliamo tutti italiano qui O_o ?! Dec 02 18:45:31 sì! Dec 02 18:45:37 trasformiamo fonosfera in un chan ita Dec 02 18:45:37 qual è la pwd di default? Dec 02 18:45:38 xD Dec 02 18:45:43 con admin/admin non entra... Dec 02 18:45:44 ci sono tanti italiani qui... Dec 02 18:45:47 fonero Dec 02 18:45:51 fonero come user Dec 02 18:46:00 pass è quella che hai te Dec 02 18:46:35 si ora funziona fonero/******** Dec 02 18:46:38 devo provare pure io :D Dec 02 18:47:01 cmq anche in questo modo a me ogni tanto da qualche errore Dec 02 18:47:01 pure io usavo http Dec 02 18:47:05 mi dava errore Dec 02 18:47:11 quindi bisogna usare https Dec 02 18:47:38 a me serve il bridge perchè ho tre fonere a casa e non mi va avere 4 sottoreti Dec 02 18:48:09 ce lo script Dec 02 18:48:12 ma è instabile Dec 02 18:48:19 si l'ho provato Dec 02 18:48:26 si fa dei casini allucinanti Dec 02 18:48:28 ogni tanto salta Dec 02 18:48:35 avevo messo io il link in questa chat Dec 02 18:48:40 sì sì Dec 02 18:49:53 dopo un pò incasina il dhcp del modem/router centrale e non fa connettere in internet nessuno se non con l'ip statico Dec 02 18:50:09 già Dec 02 18:52:08 sarebbe utile il bridge anche perchè così potremo usare la fonera 2.0n come switch e avere 4 porte lan in più rispetto al proprio modem/router Dec 02 18:52:54 prova del 9 effettuata! Dec 02 18:53:02 non appena il mio amico ha connesso il suo telefono voip Dec 02 18:53:05 oltre a levargli alla fonera il peso del firewall e dhcp privato Dec 02 18:53:05 alla fonera Dec 02 18:53:11 gli si è resettato INSTANT Dec 02 18:53:13 -.- Dec 02 18:53:14 LOL Dec 02 18:53:30 nel mio caso specifico Dec 02 18:53:33 non sarebbe un problema Dec 02 18:53:40 perchè il mio router primario è il Netgear Dec 02 18:53:48 ed ho anche io un telefono voip connesso al Netgear Dec 02 18:53:59 e la Fonera la userei solo come muletto per torrent... Dec 02 18:54:06 io ora come ora uso la fonera dolo per scaricare Dec 02 18:54:07 però lui lo vorrebbe usare come router principale Dec 02 18:54:27 allora deve aspettare il nuovo fw Dec 02 18:54:49 hanno detto che esce questa settimana Dec 02 18:55:07 se non riscontrano altri problemi Dec 02 18:57:52 io e Danicasti stiamo vedendo come configurare più utenti (con permessi e diritti diversi) nel server ftp della fonera Dec 02 18:58:48 si Dec 02 18:59:00 ma se non esce sta settimana, vado a Madrid e do fuoco alla sede di Fon :) Dec 02 18:59:25 per che? Dec 02 18:59:54 si fai questo, dimi con antelazione Dec 02 18:59:56 haha Dec 02 19:00:08 iurgi: what? :D Dec 02 19:00:12 lol Dec 02 19:00:27 iurgi: que cono estas dicendo ;) ?? Dec 02 19:00:42 just wanted to say, that if you plan to burn fon... just let me know in advance Dec 02 19:00:46 iurgi: no te preocupes, fue solo una broma :P Dec 02 19:00:49 there's some documents I want to get rid of... Dec 02 19:00:52 XD Dec 02 19:01:18 lol Dec 02 19:04:18 GO IURGO GO FOR NEW FIRM! Dec 02 19:04:35 cheers.. i leave now Dec 02 19:04:48 thank you in advance! hope webcam is gonna work! Dec 02 19:06:19 hehe Dec 02 19:06:19 well, new firmware is coming Dec 02 19:06:19 finally Dec 02 19:06:20 in a few days hopefully Dec 02 19:07:31 good Dec 02 19:07:58 only bugfix, or even new features? Dec 02 19:08:29 hmmm Dec 02 19:08:33 maybe some new features... Dec 02 19:08:35 who knows Dec 02 19:08:36 :o Dec 02 19:08:38 iurgi: ok... but I'll tell my friend to wait to buy his Fonera2, until this problem is fixed ;) Dec 02 19:09:10 the important is that ALL bugs are fixed :( Dec 02 19:09:45 iurgi: I can confirm that if he connects his VOIP phone to the Fonera 2.0n, it reboots immediatly, every time, always reproducible. Dec 02 19:11:20 Andy80: yes, some voip phones reboot the fonera Dec 02 19:11:24 that's a bug Dec 02 19:11:51 iurgi: ok! nice! :) the most important thing is that you're aware of this bug :) Dec 02 19:11:59 is it usb voip devices? Dec 02 19:12:27 or network voip device? Dec 02 19:12:38 wait wait! my mistake! it's a SOFTWARE :\ Dec 02 19:12:47 anyway I think it's the same problem like Ekiga Dec 02 19:12:50 ohhh Dec 02 19:12:51 I see Dec 02 19:12:58 in his case it's Xlite 4.0 beta Dec 02 19:12:59 for OSX Dec 02 19:13:00 so it's the SIP that crashes it? Dec 02 19:13:08 yes Dec 02 19:13:35 SIP or RTP? Dec 02 19:13:43 does it even stablish the connection? Dec 02 19:14:18 fonera2 reboots just after 4-5 seconds when he starts Xlite Dec 02 19:14:41 probably while Xlite is connecting to the SIP server... Dec 02 19:14:48 ok Dec 02 19:14:49 thanks Dec 02 19:14:55 so not when he tries to start a call Dec 02 19:15:08 (he's using Eutelia Voip... I can give you more information if you want, because I use the same provider for my SIP number) Dec 02 19:15:21 no, just starting the client Dec 02 19:15:35 but probably is related to the same bug you're aware of Dec 02 19:15:44 even if it's a very strange bug :) Dec 02 19:18:12 bye Dec 02 19:18:16 :)+ Dec 02 21:13:32 iurgi: sorry, I was having dinner... one question... but... this voip related bug, will be fixed for this next release? **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 03 04:00:14 2009 Dec 03 08:00:04 Buongiorno! Dec 03 09:14:57 oi Dec 03 12:34:19 i gonna try the same with the fonera Dec 03 12:34:20 http://gagfilms.com/CDrepair.html Dec 03 12:34:22 XD Dec 03 16:42:26 hi all :) Dec 03 16:42:35 gchocho any news about ipv6? Dec 03 16:44:02 not since yesterday Dec 03 16:46:48 i have read on the board that sooner there will be another upgrade for the firmware Dec 03 17:03:39 Does the 2.0n accept WPA keys longer than 31 characters by now? :) Dec 03 17:03:53 *Does lUCI on the 2.0n... Dec 03 17:15:05 dasjoe: it didn't before? Dec 03 17:15:06 :o Dec 03 17:15:13 that's a new bug imo Dec 03 17:15:27 but if so, it will be fixed in the next release Dec 03 17:18:03 31 does sound awfully long already :-) Dec 03 17:20:12 My 2.0n doesn't, no. Which is the reason why it's just lying there instead of being used ;) Dec 03 17:20:46 you are not using the f20n because the wpa pass doesn't accept >31?!?!?! Dec 03 17:20:50 Because 31 characters of passphrase is not enough security? Dec 03 17:23:53 if you forgot the pass you are fucked up xD Dec 03 17:24:03 how you can remember a pass 31 char long Dec 03 17:24:05 xD Dec 03 17:24:33 Barbon: Using a passphrase (eg, a sentence of words) makes it easier to remember Dec 03 17:24:44 like this Dec 03 17:24:45 Also educes the amount of entropy per character, of course. Dec 03 17:24:54 s/educes/reduces/ Dec 03 17:24:56 goodmorningiamalessandroeleoprahowareyou Dec 03 17:24:58 is a nice pass Dec 03 17:25:00 asd Dec 03 17:25:21 imlollingonmyfonera Dec 03 17:25:33 Or: Good morning. I am Alessandroe Leoprah. How are you? Dec 03 17:25:40 yea Dec 03 17:25:44 :-) Dec 03 17:25:49 my name is Alessandro Eleopra Dec 03 17:25:52 not alessandroe Leoprah Dec 03 17:25:54 xD Dec 03 17:26:10 Barbon: hehe, I couldn't tell :-p Dec 03 17:26:17 lol Dec 03 17:29:50 passphrase is real good so Dec 03 17:29:58 :D Dec 03 17:40:31 lol Dec 03 17:40:43 salve a tutti Dec 03 17:40:58 ave pacco Dec 03 17:41:07 pacco Dec 03 17:41:15 pacco fuso Dec 03 17:41:17 asd Dec 03 17:41:24 o.O Dec 03 17:41:27 ehm Dec 03 17:41:29 xD Dec 03 17:42:47 identificati! Dec 03 17:43:21 io? Dec 03 17:43:33 mica sono registrato.. Dec 03 17:43:35 te! Dec 03 17:43:37 xD Dec 03 20:25:51 oi Dec 03 22:35:18 https://xion.getmyip.com/ Dec 03 22:35:20 work :D Dec 03 23:40:30 i try to format ext2 ext3 Dec 03 23:53:47 o_o Dec 03 23:53:49 workkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Dec 03 23:53:50 yaaaaaaaa Dec 03 23:53:52 lol Dec 04 00:00:34 mmm i have formated the "no-read fon" with hp format tool, and now work! :D Dec 04 00:04:59 gg **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Dec 04 02:59:57 2009