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Jan 22 08:51:09 <Barbon> hi
Jan 22 10:43:16 <giuseppeg88> iurgi: any news?
Jan 22 10:49:37 <Barbon> giuseppe88=> http://imgur.com/kleQe.jpg
Jan 22 10:50:21 <Barbon> giuseppeg88=> http://imgur.com/kleQe.jpg
Jan 22 10:51:04 <giuseppeg88> why don't you give us official news on fonosfera since last year???
Jan 22 10:51:23 <OdyX> Barbon: you seem to appreciate that picture :-)
Jan 22 10:51:35 <Barbon> i have make it :P
Jan 22 10:51:55 <OdyX> giuseppeg88: it seems that once the hardware is sold, interest in maintaining the software suddenly drops to near-zero
Jan 22 10:52:01 <giuseppeg88> putroppo questa sembra perfetta
Jan 22 10:52:41 <giuseppeg88> unfortunately, this seems true
Jan 22 10:56:03 <giuseppeg88> I'm sorry, but if they do not change the way they do, this will be the last Fonera that I bought...
Jan 22 10:57:21 <OdyX> (sigh)
Jan 22 10:59:13 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: Apparently people are working very hard to fix some nasty bugs, so it's not like there is no work done (or so they say)
Jan 22 10:59:39 <blathijs> But I agree that the lack of information doesn't help...
Jan 22 11:00:33 <OdyX> blathijs: that's it :-)
Jan 22 11:00:54 <OdyX> blathijs: if you have pointers for this, please fill the topic :-)
Jan 22 11:03:39 <giuseppeg88> the lack of news makes all foneros discouraged: into believing that they were abandoned!
Jan 22 11:07:49 <giuseppeg88> and then people tend to lose confidence in Fonosfera (and Fon)
Jan 22 11:44:39 <Barbon> the lack of news makes all foneros discouraged: into believing that they were abandoned! => true
Jan 22 12:43:33 <Andy80> hi all
Jan 22 12:43:51 <Andy80> do we have any news about the next release?
Jan 22 12:46:12 <Andy80> because it's a bit annoying to read, from a side, that Fon Marketing say "oh, we got a 400.000 foneras order, we're happy", and from the other side we've to wait months to have a stable release of something we've already paied.
Jan 22 12:46:27 <Andy80> what the....! hire more developers!
Jan 22 12:48:42 <OdyX> Andy80: nonono… let's just wait for the community momentum to raise up magically
Jan 22 12:50:53 <Andy80> OdyX: what you mean?
Jan 22 12:51:19 <Andy80> OdyX: Fonera is one the os project with less community developers involved I know -.-
Jan 22 12:51:26 <Andy80> one thing are plugins
Jan 22 12:51:32 <OdyX> Andy80: I ironically mean that Fon.com is probably waiting for "the community" to take up the project
Jan 22 12:51:37 <Andy80> another thing are firmware release
Jan 22 12:51:59 <Andy80> that's not the way to do it, man
Jan 22 12:52:13 <Andy80> they really don't know how to attract a community then
Jan 22 12:52:24 <Andy80> I feel betrayed by their promise
Jan 22 12:52:25 <OdyX> that's was the "magically" part :-)
Jan 22 12:52:41 <Andy80> you cannot make someone pay for something if you know that it still doesn't work
Jan 22 12:53:12 <OdyX> well… it basically does…
Jan 22 12:53:22 <OdyX> just not as you'd expect it to :-)
Jan 22 12:56:05 <Andy80> I just know that I (and I suppose many other people) are not happy with this situation
Jan 22 12:56:18 <Andy80> some friends of mine I suggested to buy fonera 2
Jan 22 12:56:27 <Andy80> sold it in ebay after one week
Jan 22 12:56:41 <Andy80> because they found frustrating using a so full of bugs device
Jan 22 12:57:56 <Andy80> when something is free, I don't bother too much if it doesn't work, I try to spend my time to make it better, but when something is not free, I expect it to just work.
Jan 22 12:57:59 * OdyX too…
Jan 22 13:01:50 <epienbro> the lack of documentation about the fonera (architecture docs, API docs) is a large issue for me as a developer.. I'm trying to port my usenet download program to the fonera, but I don't have the time to bother people for every question I have
Jan 22 13:02:29 <OdyX> and last time I tried, the firmware was not buildable from the repository
Jan 22 13:05:06 <Andy80> nice to hear -.-
Jan 22 15:30:59 <Nisu> hola
Jan 22 15:31:13 <Nisu> hola
Jan 22 15:31:16 <Nisu> hol
Jan 22 15:31:17 <Nisu> ho
Jan 22 15:31:17 <Nisu> h
Jan 22 15:31:19 <Nisu>  
Jan 22 15:31:19 <Nisu>  
Jan 22 15:31:22 <Nisu> hola
Jan 22 15:31:23 <Nisu> hola
Jan 22 15:31:24 <Nisu> ho
Jan 22 15:31:25 <Nisu> a
Jan 22 15:32:13 <Andy80> hola
Jan 22 15:47:18 <lordzurp> hello world
Jan 22 23:36:06 <giuseppeg88> ciao a tutti
Jan 22 23:39:58 <giuseppeg88> Does anyone know how to update transmission on the Fonera?
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