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Aug 12 07:07:52 <arcsky> blathijs: morning
Aug 12 07:09:05 <blathijs> arcsky: morning
Aug 12 07:09:15 <blathijs> arcsky: I'm just off to the shop, I'll be back in 45 minutes or so
Aug 12 07:16:32 <arcsky> let me know when u are back ;>
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Aug 12 07:25:43 <gonzobrains> hello?
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Aug 12 07:31:52 <arcsky> gonzobrains: hello
Aug 12 07:41:52 <gonzobrains> yo
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Aug 12 08:22:24 <gonzobrains> so, how do people get this fonera 2 running straight out of the box if there are firmware issues?
Aug 12 08:22:36 <gonzobrains> i'm really frustrated that i can't get this to work easily
Aug 12 08:22:47 <arcsky> i did 8 now
Aug 12 08:22:57 <blathijs> gonzobrains: What issues are you referring to exactly?
Aug 12 08:23:06 <arcsky> mtd erease mtd6 ?
Aug 12 08:23:07 <gonzobrains> we talked about this before
Aug 12 08:23:16 <gonzobrains> you said the new firmware you were releasing would fix everything
Aug 12 08:23:29 <gonzobrains> the wi-fi signals drop out all the time
Aug 12 08:23:40 <gonzobrains> i can't have public and private working nicely together either
Aug 12 08:23:42 <blathijs> arcsky: That's the next step
Aug 12 08:24:01 <blathijs> gonzobrains: If you have some patience, I should have a 2.3.6.1 RC1 release ready today for testing
Aug 12 08:24:17 <blathijs> I was waiting for the buildbot to have time, but I'll be doing it manually instead
Aug 12 08:24:25 <gonzobrains> sure i'm patient, but to me this isn't even an advanced feature.  it really shocks me that a product would be releaed with such a serious defect
Aug 12 08:24:43 <gonzobrains> my first fonera worked straight out of the box
Aug 12 08:24:49 <arcsky> couldnt  not open mtd device: mtd6
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Aug 12 08:28:25 <blathijs> Skipping steps could screw up your Fonera, so don't be...
Aug 12 08:29:05 <blathijs> gonzobrains: Also, when debugging it, due to some miscommunication, we've spent some time looking in the wrong direction before finally finding the issue
Aug 12 08:29:35 <gonzobrains> ok so has it been solved?
Aug 12 08:29:48 <arcsky> blathijs: its writing now
Aug 12 08:30:09 <blathijs> gonzobrains: We
Aug 12 08:30:49 <blathijs> gonzobrains: We've implemented a more loose check, so it should be mostly solved. Not really sure if the real cause is gone (though the real cause just seems to be packet loss in a loaded network, so can't really help that)
Aug 12 08:31:50 <gonzobrains> i am using a mac book. i heard rumors that the mac books don't like way that the fonera tries to have two different wi fi signals running at the same time for the private and public networks
Aug 12 08:32:03 <gonzobrains> basically this box is useless to me if i can't get this running
Aug 12 08:32:15 <gonzobrains> and it sucks that i can't even use it for 3G with my sierra wireless c885
Aug 12 08:32:24 <gonzobrains> that's a pretty standard 3g aircard too.  again disappointing
Aug 12 08:33:54 <blathijs> gonzobrains: I've not heard those rumours yet. I know we had issues with broadcom wifi chipsets (which most apple products use, AFAIK), but those should have been solved with 2.3.6.0
Aug 12 08:34:08 <blathijs> gonzobrains: As for "standard 3g", there's really no such thing (which is the entire problem)
Aug 12 08:34:22 <blathijs> every 3G card has its own pecularities, needs different commands, etc.
Aug 12 08:34:26 <arcsky>  blathijs its rebooting......
Aug 12 08:34:28 <arcsky> hope it comes back!
Aug 12 08:35:17 <blathijs> Remeber that the 2.0g isn't so fast with booting (up to 2 minutes or something)
Aug 12 08:36:23 <arcsky> blathijs: i cant ssh to it now :/
Aug 12 08:36:34 <blathijs> arcsky: You'll have to reboot it a second time
Aug 12 08:36:50 <blathijs> arcsky: This was documented somewhere, but I've not seen it anymore recently
Aug 12 08:36:55 <blathijs> (the documentation)
Aug 12 08:37:00 <arcsky> yeah
Aug 12 08:37:06 <arcsky> i remember that from yesterday now
Aug 12 08:37:08 <blathijs> It seems 2.0n doesn't need this or something
Aug 12 08:37:26 <arcsky> u got 2.0n too?
Aug 12 08:37:35 <arcsky> i got fonera 2200 and 2.0g
Aug 12 08:37:36 <blathijs> yeah, I got both
Aug 12 08:37:41 <blathijs> and a classic as well
Aug 12 08:37:56 <arcsky> but my 2200 i think are dead
Aug 12 08:38:28 <blathijs> dead how?
Aug 12 08:38:40 <arcsky> dont know
Aug 12 08:38:46 <arcsky> will check it with serial any day
Aug 12 08:38:52 <blathijs> (When you get SSH access again, don't forget to start with step 6 again, not the erase step)
Aug 12 08:39:10 <arcsky> no ssh :/
Aug 12 08:40:38 <arcsky> i need new master password
Aug 12 08:41:20 <arcsky> back on track ;>
Aug 12 08:47:54 <arcsky> omg :)
Aug 12 08:47:57 <arcsky> redbooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
Aug 12 08:48:23 <arcsky> now i will install dd-wrt
Aug 12 08:48:29 <Barbon> lol
Aug 12 08:49:26 <arcsky> blathijs: did really nice work on this one
Aug 12 08:49:36 <blathijs> Good that it worked :-)
Aug 12 08:49:56 <arcsky> actually u maybe the first one who did this
Aug 12 08:49:59 <blathijs> Too bad we'll loose a user over it :-p
Aug 12 08:50:01 <arcsky> so nice work
Aug 12 08:50:11 <blathijs> arcsky: No, there was some italian page describing the process as well
Aug 12 08:50:17 <arcsky> no
Aug 12 08:50:27 <arcsky> that didnt work
Aug 12 08:50:34 <blathijs> but it didn't say how to actually change the firmware or redboot config, just offered prebuilt versions, which is always a bit scary
Aug 12 08:52:05 <blathijs> Hmm, looking more closely it seems the italian page really was intended for the Fonera classic, not the 2.0g (it would even brick the 2.0g...)
Aug 12 09:08:32 <arcsky> i just did RedBoot> fis create linux and not telnet connection lost :/
Aug 12 09:08:38 <arcsky> and cant even ping it now
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Aug 12 14:04:22 <giuseppeg88> ciao
Aug 12 14:05:18 <blathijs> ey giuseppeg88
Aug 12 14:25:21 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: I saw you're working on the new fw...
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Aug 12 14:40:46 <giuseppeg88> if this fw will work, subsequently will released a rc2 with the new changes?
Aug 12 14:41:01 <giuseppeg88> or a 2.3.7.0?
Aug 12 14:41:45 <arcsky> blathijs: u make a new fw ?
Aug 12 14:41:47 <blathijs> I'm building 2.3.6.1 RC1 now, if it works it will become 2.3.6.1
Aug 12 14:42:19 <blathijs> After that, I hope te release 2.3.7.0 beta1 soon, and 2.3.7.0 (probably with an RC again) a bit later
Aug 12 14:42:35 <blathijs> (where the current trunk will become 2.3.7.0)
Aug 12 14:43:00 <giuseppeg88> ok. I now everything is clear
Aug 12 14:43:03 <giuseppeg88> thanks
Aug 12 14:55:34 <giuseppeg88> I'm going out... we feel tomorrow, so I can contribute to testing the new fw
Aug 12 14:57:04 <giuseppeg88> bye
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Aug 12 15:33:29 <arcsky> blathijs: there?
Aug 12 15:33:43 <arcsky> http://downloads.openwrt.org/backfire/10.03.1-rc1/
Aug 12 15:33:45 <arcsky> no fonera
Aug 12 15:33:56 <arcsky> but should i use atheros because fonera got that chip
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Aug 12 15:41:14 <blathijs> arcsky: I don't know, perhaps #openwrt knows?
Aug 12 15:41:42 <arcsky> you the guru on fonera
Aug 12 15:42:03 <blathijs> But I don't run openwrt :-)
Aug 12 15:42:38 <arcsky> isnt fonera built from openwrt?
Aug 12 15:44:13 <arcsky> some versions says 128k other says 64k
Aug 12 15:44:21 <arcsky> i think 64k for fonera
Aug 12 15:48:22 <blathijs> I think that is block size, which is 64K for Fonera AFAIK
Aug 12 15:49:31 <arcsky> yeah thats right
Aug 12 15:52:38 <arcsky> fonera fw got ipkg ?
Aug 12 15:53:37 <blathijs> thre's opkg
Aug 12 15:53:47 <blathijs> which is pretty much the same
Aug 12 15:54:23 <blathijs> but there is no repository for Fonera, but in a lot of cases the atheros openwrt repository should be usable
Aug 12 15:55:53 <Appleonkel> Hello, I can't register my 2.0n, I tried it with firmware 2.3.0.0 and 2.3.6.0! Is it possible to register the Fonera on commandline?
Aug 12 16:02:48 <blathijs> Nope, only using a browser
Aug 12 16:03:27 <blathijs> The upcoming 2.3.6.1 firmware should fix registration problems in 2.3.6.1, but 2.3.0.0 should already work AFAIK
Aug 12 16:05:17 <blathijs> Appleonkel: If you send me your email address in a private message, I can send you a test version of the 2.3.6.1 firmware tomorrow?
Aug 12 16:06:01 <Appleonkel> Yes, i will do
Aug 12 16:07:24 <Appleonkel> thank you so far
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Aug 12 22:21:19 <arcsky> hi
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