**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 02 02:59:58 2010 Sep 02 08:28:15 29 euro... Is this the working one? http://www.huaweie220.com/english/traveledition.html Sep 02 08:33:14 hey Sep 02 08:54:30 voorstad: I think that the E220 should work, yes Sep 02 08:54:37 voorstad: Not sure about different versions Sep 02 08:54:43 € 29 isn't much, though Sep 02 08:54:55 voorstad: If you're going to order, I might want one as well Sep 02 08:54:56 Wel, need a sim as well :-( Sep 02 08:55:26 But a duo-sim could be interesting..... if it works Sep 02 08:55:44 hey Sep 02 08:55:57 voorstad: Apparently KPN has some dual sim subscription at no additional cost, according to jeroenimo. Haven't looked at that yet Sep 02 08:55:58 19 euro sim+modem in sweden Sep 02 08:56:18 * blathijs is off to the shop Sep 02 08:57:06 http://www.hi.nl/Klantenservice/Regel-t-zelf-bij-Hi/Nieuwe-simkaart.htm Sep 02 09:23:06 blathijs: I'm certain it works.. Sep 02 09:23:39 originally for a build in car phone, you can't use both at the same time Sep 02 09:38:17 @jeroenimo: so if you have a 3g on your phone, you canb use the sim in the Huwei E220? They are not gonna like this.... Sep 02 09:38:52 voorstad: how are they going to find out? Sep 02 09:39:12 :-) amount of data traffic...... Sep 02 09:39:18 Cuz if they do I'll sue them till they die! Sep 02 09:39:38 Its a backup, not regular use ;-) Sep 02 09:40:14 sounds great to me.... Is Hi the only provider that gives duo-sim cards? Sep 02 09:40:16 Plus iPhones tend to eat a lot of bandwidth anyway.. never had complains Sep 02 09:40:27 Nope every provider does that IMHO Sep 02 09:41:00 You need a simlockfree dongle though.. Sep 02 09:41:11 29 euro..... Sep 02 09:41:24 which is cheap :P Sep 02 09:41:32 bought mine for 40 euro Sep 02 09:41:41 ohoh, where? Sep 02 09:41:52 Uhm, Lukas Klamer Sep 02 09:42:14 Makro heet dat nu geloof ik Sep 02 09:42:20 yup Sep 02 09:42:37 so 40 euro ex VAT :-) Sep 02 09:42:44 ex btw ja Sep 02 09:43:22 Well my friend bought 10 for his project Sep 02 09:43:35 10 dingles??? Sep 02 09:43:41 then he decided that he needed HSUPA Sep 02 09:43:50 so I bought it off him Sep 02 09:43:53 yeah 10 Sep 02 09:44:23 I always get confused with UMTS, 3G, HSDPA, etc.... Sep 02 09:44:41 my phone ha GPRS max :-( Sep 02 09:44:51 HSUPA is faster upload speed Sep 02 09:45:20 an old WindowsMobile one. Great phone, horrible platform Sep 02 09:45:32 wimo .... shiver! Sep 02 09:45:46 I'm thinking of an Android one, so that's why I am interested in the duo-sim :-) Sep 02 09:46:02 well android can be used as a modem too Sep 02 09:46:29 at the time there was no IPhone or Android..... Sep 02 09:46:41 true.. Sep 02 09:47:02 But times change.. I mostly use WiFi on board Sep 02 09:47:04 Tethering.... pending on the provider Sep 02 09:47:19 well when you jailbreak/root its possible Sep 02 09:47:20 or root acceess of the phone Sep 02 09:48:35 which is not too hard on an iPhone... Sep 02 09:51:54 I'm off, get the ship ready to sail Sep 02 09:55:50 bfn Sep 02 13:20:10 ciao Sep 02 13:20:21 ey giuseppeg88 Sep 02 13:21:29 blathijs: Can I ask you a favor about the trac? Sep 02 13:22:02 giuseppeg88: sure Sep 02 13:22:50 I just visited this pages: Sep 02 13:22:51 http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/report/18?asc=1&sort=type&USER=anonymous Sep 02 13:22:53 http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/report/18?asc=1&sort=ticket&USER=anonymous Sep 02 13:22:54 http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/report/18?asc=1&sort=milestone&USER=anonymous Sep 02 13:23:11 can you hide the e-mail address? Sep 02 13:24:31 because these pages are indexed by search engines (and also by bot) :( Sep 02 13:24:43 Hmm, that shouldn't have happened Sep 02 13:24:48 I'll take care of that Sep 02 13:25:30 thank you very much! Sep 02 13:27:03 now, unfortunately, I have to go ... see you later! Sep 02 13:27:28 bye Sep 02 15:11:35 hi Sep 02 15:11:46 blathijs: openVPN up and running, AMAZING :-D Sep 02 15:12:11 today i didn't forgot to forward 1194 on the main router Sep 02 15:17:12 Tas: Cool :-) Sep 02 15:17:52 Tas: jeroenimo: Perhaps you could try registering again? We've fixed some fragmenting issues with the radius server this morning. Sep 02 15:22:55 i just tried Sep 02 15:22:58 nothing happen Sep 02 15:23:34 the link to register page seems to be broken Sep 02 15:23:39 http://10.8.0.1/luci/;stok=68c49fbcd472deeefbf08185b3f01cda/twitter Sep 02 15:23:48 i think that twitter is not register :-p Sep 02 15:24:00 wherever i'm i get the 'identity' link :-p Sep 02 15:24:38 maybe my problem is different Sep 02 15:24:43 Tas: Did you manage to upgrade to 2.3.6.1 yet? Sep 02 15:25:18 Tas: It is known broken in 2.3.6.0 Sep 02 15:25:40 i switched to 2.3.6.1 dev yesterday Sep 02 15:25:57 Firmware Version: 2.3.6.1 Sep 02 15:26:31 i read something about a file deleted some time ago Sep 02 15:26:39 maybe i have to put back that file Sep 02 15:26:50 (deleted by hard resetting the fonera) Sep 02 15:28:08 hmm, what file? Sep 02 15:29:44 i don't remember Sep 02 15:29:54 i think i read a bug report Sep 02 15:29:56 :-p Sep 02 15:32:17 Tas: Could you pastebin the HTML source of your dashboard? Sep 02 15:32:45 yup Sep 02 15:33:08 is it only one frame? Sep 02 15:33:16 I think so, yes Sep 02 15:33:19 ok Sep 02 15:34:20 blathijs: http://pastebin.com/SZbd7ivP Sep 02 15:34:29 i love openvpn Sep 02 15:35:17 no more ports to leave open, no more bulk ip range attacks Sep 02 15:35:57 Tas: Could you pastebin a logread? Sep 02 15:36:10 Tas: It looks like your Fonera still hasn't done the radconfig Sep 02 15:36:27

Sep 02 15:36:33 points nowhere Sep 02 15:36:47 logread from ssh? Sep 02 15:37:01 (i don't know what is it, but i found a commad that is named logread) Sep 02 15:37:37 yes, the output of the command "logread" through SSH Sep 02 15:38:50 it is a lot of lines, i suppose that there are not personal information in it, such as passwords or names Sep 02 15:41:06 uhm a lot of ip address Sep 02 15:41:28 and mac Sep 02 15:42:10 may i mail it to you? Sep 02 15:42:49 or something else that don't imply pubblishing it :-p Sep 02 15:47:50 doesn't Sep 02 16:02:06 Cool, reloading chillispot has worked for Tas (in a query) Sep 02 16:02:48 jeroenimo: You might need to reboot your Fonera to force a radconfig (or run /etc/init.d/chillispot reload) before you can register Sep 02 16:04:15 :-D Sep 02 16:10:11 18:03:04 Your router is offline, please make sure your router is connected or try restarting it Sep 02 16:10:25 Tas: Perhaps you should wait a bit, or restart the router Sep 02 16:11:21 is there an option that permits to don't appear in the map when i have sharing disabled? Sep 02 16:17:50 uh? Sep 02 16:19:40 it doesn't matter, my paranoia level exceeded a little Sep 02 16:19:53 don't worry about it :-p Sep 02 16:29:11 hi @ all Sep 02 16:29:30 hi guys, want to inform you about a little security issue Sep 02 16:30:36 In austria it is possible to go into the personal account of tlekom without logging in, so fon spot users could do everything with telekom austria users, buy new packages looking at invoices and see the network traffic Sep 02 16:34:26 nobody online Sep 02 16:38:51 uhm Sep 02 16:49:17 is there any firmware image suitable for virtual box? Sep 02 17:40:02 alexsc: That's sort of a known issue, and is really hard to fix Sep 02 17:40:25 alexsc: It's also really an issue with the provider not providing proper security Sep 02 17:40:39 alexsc: If you have that, I guess you should not be sharing your wifi... Sep 02 17:48:11 you should not have that provider Sep 02 17:48:21 ehm gone... Sep 02 18:00:33 bye Sep 02 18:41:23 Hi blathijs Sep 02 18:42:11 I feel curiosity Sep 02 18:42:24 Why is the firmware called fon-ng? Sep 02 18:42:36 What does it means "ng"? Sep 02 19:00:43 next generation? not great? new guts? Sep 02 19:01:21 Josemi: I think it's next generation Sep 02 19:01:46 not -the- g version? Sep 02 19:01:50 Oh, Thanks! Sep 02 19:02:09 Maybe aircrack-ng comes from that Sep 02 19:02:17 I felt curious Sep 02 19:02:35 blathijs, did you sleep well to re-think my "Niet in staat locatie ‘smb://WORKGROUP;fonero@192.168.10.1/media/’ weer te geven" issue? Sep 02 19:03:16 Josemi: Yeah, I think ng in aircrack is also next-gen Sep 02 19:03:20 voorstad: Nope, not really... Sep 02 19:03:24 b.t.w., itś on my 2.0 beta / 2.0g FON router Sep 02 19:03:36 With the monkey firmware Sep 02 19:04:07 2.3.0.1 RC1 Sep 02 19:04:46 voorstad: Hmm, perhaps we should see if it improves with a newer firmware first Sep 02 19:04:59 (I hope to get a 2.3.7.0 beta out in a few weeks) Sep 02 19:05:33 It did work for months....... Sep 02 19:05:48 iḾ NOT SURE WHEN IT STOPPED WORKING Sep 02 19:06:02 OEPS: oeps no shouting Sep 02 19:06:24 Ah, perhaps a Windows update or something... Sep 02 19:06:38 eehhh, itś Ubuntu Sep 02 19:07:08 voorstad: Hmm, not likely then :-) Sep 02 19:07:20 voorstad: Did you try commandline smbclient? Sep 02 19:07:31 nope, tell me Sep 02 19:11:06 I think: smbclient -u fonero -L //192.168.10.1 Sep 02 19:11:23 I think: smbclient -u fonero //192.168.10.1/media Sep 02 19:11:55 Oh, it's -U, not -u Sep 02 19:13:45 Connection to 192.168.10.1 failed (Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED) Sep 02 19:14:10 hmm, connection refused is funny Sep 02 19:14:32 voorstad: What does "nmap 192.168.10.1" say? Sep 02 19:15:58 * installing nmap Sep 02 19:16:46 nmap 192.168.10.1 says: Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2010-09-02 21:13 CEST Sep 02 19:17:14 Interesting ports on registerlafonera.fon.com (192.168.10.1): Sep 02 19:17:28 Not shown: 993 closed ports Sep 02 19:17:53 PORT STATE SERVICE Sep 02 19:18:25 and then port 21, 22, 53, 80, 443, 5000 and 9100 Sep 02 19:18:26 voorstad: You might want to pastebin the full output Sep 02 19:18:30 yup Sep 02 19:18:36 ah, or summarize :-) Sep 02 19:18:45 those ports are listed as open? Sep 02 19:19:35 http://pastebin.com/HPvD0tsx Sep 02 19:19:59 Then at least nmap agrees that the SMB ports (139 and 445) are not open Sep 02 19:21:32 voorstad: Are you sure that samba is enabled under Settings -> Fileserver Sep 02 19:21:33 ? Sep 02 19:21:33 hi Sep 02 19:21:57 ey Tas Sep 02 19:22:07 hi blathijs Sep 02 19:22:21 it says: enable enabled Sep 02 19:22:32 sounds just about right :-) Sep 02 19:22:39 Iĺ disable, save and eb\nable again Sep 02 19:23:15 voorstad: ok Sep 02 19:23:22 voorstad: You could also check if "smbd" is running Sep 02 19:24:09 shoot, that did the trick! Sep 02 19:24:17 AAAAAAARRRRRGGGHHH Sep 02 19:24:50 blathijs: is LUA the only language in which i can write extensions ? Sep 02 19:24:53 voorstad: It is weird though.. Sep 02 19:25:07 Tas: Lua is used a lot in the firmware, yes. All of the webGUI is written in lua Sep 02 19:25:17 139 and 445 are open now Sep 02 19:25:50 Anyways, talking to you makes me doing things that helps solving it...... Sep 02 19:25:53 uhm, so it will be a mess writing python or C extension i suppose Sep 02 19:26:40 voorstad: Heh, I have that a lot with talking to blogic about problems :-) Sep 02 19:27:10 @blathijs: "....Als ik jou niet had, en m`n fiets niet, dan kwam ik nergens...." Sep 02 19:27:21 Tas: Writing C for the webinterface directly is messy, but there are lua modules written in C Sep 02 19:27:42 Tas: There's also plenty of stuff "behind" the webgui that is written in C (most of the daemons and utilities) Sep 02 19:27:46 voorstad: heh Sep 02 19:28:25 blathijs: is a really Linux system, but I'm very attracted by the web interface Sep 02 19:28:47 i got a glance on luci this afternoon Sep 02 19:28:51 Tas: Do you have any specific extension in mind? Sep 02 19:28:59 blathijs: no :-p Sep 02 19:29:07 Nevertheless, thanks a billion. And looking forward to 2.3.7.0 and a working Music plugin! Sep 02 19:30:36 voorstad: Yeah, the music plugin is high on my list for 2.3.7.0 again Sep 02 19:31:04 Great! I love it and use it alot! Sep 02 19:31:20 Although a firefox plugin would be very usefull Sep 02 19:31:20 voorstad: I still got a bugfix for it queued, that should at least make sure that a reboot of the Fonera fixes it on a crash (as opposed to a reinstall) Sep 02 19:31:34 voorstad: Feel free to write one ;-p Sep 02 19:31:56 Well, the major bug can be solved by unplugging the usb soundcard Sep 02 19:32:21 Wish i could write a plugin.... if there are some guidelines on how to do it..... Sep 02 19:32:41 voorstad: Ah, replugging the soundcard should of course restart audiod Sep 02 19:33:07 I thought I mentioned it in the ticket Sep 02 19:33:23 It's been a while since I looked at it :-) Sep 02 19:33:26 Do you have a USB soundcard? I Sep 02 19:33:33 yeah, two :-) Sep 02 19:33:45 I`ll otherwise buy you one Sep 02 19:33:48 ah ok Sep 02 19:34:00 (One because my laptopt doesn't have digital out, one because I was hoping to port pulseaudio to the Fonera) Sep 02 19:37:22 cool, I converted the x86 image of kamikaze for vbox :-D Sep 02 19:39:30 Heh, nice Sep 02 19:39:55 Now I understand what you meant with an image vor vbox before, OpenWRT builds for x86 of course Sep 02 19:40:25 I guess the Fon firmware should be buildable for x86 as well, but I'm not exactly sure how that would work Sep 02 19:40:40 something with /trunk/openwrt/target/linux/generic-2.6, I guess. Sep 02 19:43:55 openwrt is a first step Sep 02 19:49:16 argh only vi Sep 02 19:49:27 will drive me crazy :-p Sep 02 19:58:53 blathijs: it is a bad idea to install things via opkg, should I leave the system as it is? Sep 02 19:59:06 @Tas: VI......... , you are gonna like it. In the end you will even install WINVI on your Windows 7 machine :-) Sep 02 19:59:44 voorstad: I am not using windows since 1997 :-p and I am using emacs since 1997 :-p Sep 02 19:59:59 Tas: Yeah, you should really take some time to learn vi(m) sometime Sep 02 20:00:15 Oh, already an emacs user... Hmm, your soul is already lost then ;-p Sep 02 20:00:19 MacVI then..... Sep 02 20:00:22 ahahahah Sep 02 20:00:25 I know the vi basics, but not for intensive use Sep 02 20:00:48 (I wouldn't know, I've never actually tried emacs, but I'm completely in love with vim) Sep 02 20:01:25 It is a good editor, but i don't like the two-states thing Sep 02 20:01:43 Yeah, that is a bit weird Sep 02 20:02:00 but it does open up the option of using the letter keys unmodified for all kinds of things Sep 02 20:02:25 i want to be able to move, delete, edit and insert without switch mode Sep 02 20:02:26 like hjkl for moving around your document, that is brilliant Sep 02 20:02:50 C-n C-p C-b C-f Sep 02 20:03:03 Makes me feel like a piano player :-p Sep 02 20:03:03 I want to be able to move around without moving my hand to the arrow keys Sep 02 20:03:11 i don't have to Sep 02 20:03:22 I hate to too :-p Sep 02 20:03:24 Or keep a modifier key pressed Sep 02 20:03:28 ;-p Sep 02 20:04:18 But anyway, using opkg isn't a bad idea, you should be fine (use the rb534 or something openwrt target for 2.0n) Sep 02 20:05:00 And you can always do a factory reset if you screw up (everything you change on the system, except for firmware updates, are reset by firmware reset) Sep 02 20:05:46 uhm yes, yesterday you said something about a squashfs containing the whole system Sep 02 20:06:19 I suppose that the factory reset, replace the rw fs with the squash one Sep 02 20:06:28 yup Sep 02 20:06:34 or actually, it just resets the rw fs Sep 02 20:06:45 nice Sep 02 20:09:17 I think I have to install my packages on my external hd, I don't have a single Kb free :-p Sep 02 20:12:45 'h' for left and 'l' for Right, are kind of naturals, but j for down and k for up are inverted for my fingers Sep 02 20:13:01 Tas: You should look at free space for /jffs2, not / Sep 02 20:13:10 Tas: There should be around 1.7M free Sep 02 20:13:36 /dev/mtdblock6 1.9M 272.0k 1.7M 14% /jffs Sep 02 20:13:39 yup Sep 02 20:13:52 ahhh, I see Sep 02 20:14:21 If you need more, you can install on an external disk, but that needs some extra work with PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH etc Sep 02 20:14:36 I'll write up some docs for that if you're interested Sep 02 20:15:59 anyway, bed time now Sep 02 20:16:00 I worked with that a little. Sep 02 20:16:29 but good documentation will never hurt :-p Sep 02 20:24:54 i have to go too, bye :-D **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 03 02:59:57 2010