**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 17 02:59:57 2010 Sep 17 09:15:14 anyone here? Sep 17 09:15:26 sure Sep 17 09:15:44 i have tried to restore firmware to my fonera 2.0n Sep 17 09:15:59 now the led usb is orange and blinking slow Sep 17 09:16:00 Ha, I am an expert on that lately :-) Sep 17 09:16:01 is normal? Sep 17 09:16:24 You mean restored with tftp Sep 17 09:16:29 ya Sep 17 09:16:37 i downloaded the restore image Sep 17 09:16:39 and then upgarded to 2.3.6.1? Sep 17 09:17:30 i used this Sep 17 09:17:32 http://download.fonosfera.org/Restore/20091008_FON2303_2.3.0.0_Restore.bin Sep 17 09:17:46 I have done the same Sep 17 09:18:11 When I plugin my USB stick (soundcard) directly in the Fonera Sep 17 09:18:20 led is not on Sep 17 09:18:34 When I plugin a USB 2.0 hub, led is orange Sep 17 09:18:42 y have to plug it with hub Sep 17 09:18:52 mmm Sep 17 09:18:59 i have trasfered the file Sep 17 09:19:09 by using tfcp client Sep 17 09:19:17 and not the comand Sep 17 09:19:20 Blathijs has recently restored a 2.0N also Sep 17 09:19:26 Maybe he can confirm Sep 17 09:19:59 barbon: Did the webgui work again after the tftp flash? Sep 17 09:20:15 yes Sep 17 09:20:23 for me still not Sep 17 09:20:29 only power is greed Sep 17 09:20:32 green* Sep 17 09:20:36 power led Sep 17 09:20:52 i think to don't have restored it correct Sep 17 09:21:04 in tutorial Sep 17 09:21:07 it transfers the file in 4 secs Sep 17 09:21:11 i see a comand to execute Sep 17 09:21:17 i dont have used it Sep 17 09:21:23 and then you have to leave it for about 5 minutes to install Sep 17 09:21:33 i use tftp32 client Sep 17 09:21:44 is the same? Sep 17 09:21:47 tftp -i 192.168.1.6 PUT Sep 17 09:22:02 where you have to use that comand? Sep 17 09:22:22 and be sure you have set the ip of your ethernetcable to 192.168.1.xxx Sep 17 09:22:35 in the cmd (Windows) Sep 17 09:22:40 voorstad_: after first boot wait 10-15 minutes for the jffs2 to be ready Sep 17 09:22:58 patience is a virtue Sep 17 09:22:59 i have to use the ttp32 installer? Sep 17 09:23:00 :D Sep 17 09:23:01 or service? Sep 17 09:23:11 because i have used the zipped one Sep 17 09:23:35 it say the tftp is unknow Sep 17 09:23:38 http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Firmware_Restore Sep 17 09:24:01 if i use tftp -i 192.168.1.6 PUT blabla Sep 17 09:24:09 it say the tfpt comand is unknow Sep 17 09:24:10 Are you using Windows? Sep 17 09:24:13 yea Sep 17 09:24:15 Or Linux Sep 17 09:24:17 ok Sep 17 09:24:24 XP, Vista, 7 ? Sep 17 09:24:28 7 Sep 17 09:24:41 mmmm, no experience, sorry Sep 17 09:25:13 Did you run it form the command prompt (cmd)? Sep 17 09:25:46 it say sftp is a unknow comand Sep 17 09:25:53 Perhaps Windows 7 no longer ships tftp? Sep 17 09:25:56 tftp it is Sep 17 09:26:00 barbon: sftp or tftp? :-) Sep 17 09:26:05 sftp Sep 17 09:26:18 sorry Sep 17 09:26:20 tftp Sep 17 09:26:24 i have used that Sep 17 09:26:41 blathijs Sep 17 09:26:46 no need to use tftp32? Sep 17 09:27:23 i have found it Sep 17 09:27:24 Perhaps firewall is not open? Sep 17 09:27:28 on windows functionaly Sep 17 09:27:31 is disabled Sep 17 09:27:33 ... Sep 17 09:27:42 now i enable Sep 17 09:28:03 Please add this to the Wiki Sep 17 09:28:28 barbon: Perhaps the ftfp32 client will also work, but perhaps there are different settings or something. Apparantly it did not work out of the box for you, so using the standard tftp commandline client is better (since that has been tested) Sep 17 09:29:02 blathjis is tftp service is disabled by win 7, it have to enable ithis Sep 17 09:29:12 i try now Sep 17 09:29:14 brb Sep 17 09:29:25 This is it? http://www.simplehelp.net/2008/09/10/how-to-install-a-tftp-client-in-windows-vista/ Sep 17 09:34:02 now the orange usb led is blinking Sep 17 09:34:08 is normal blathjis? Sep 17 09:36:43 blathijs Sep 17 09:37:45 barbon: Is any USB device plugged in? Sep 17 09:38:39 no Sep 17 09:39:20 is normal? Sep 17 09:40:25 blathijs ç_ç Sep 17 09:41:05 Hmm, I don't think so. Not sure what's happening, though Sep 17 09:41:15 barbon: Did you get the cmdline tftp client working now? Sep 17 09:41:26 yea Sep 17 09:41:40 and after it Sep 17 09:41:46 i have to reboot the fonera or no? Sep 17 09:44:19 It should reboot automatically Sep 17 09:44:31 but it might take a while (5-10 minutes I think) Sep 17 09:44:51 is still flashing Sep 17 09:44:56 possibly Sep 17 09:45:33 i can plug the lan off? Sep 17 09:47:06 is still flashing Sep 17 09:47:08 :| Sep 17 09:48:51 still flash.. Sep 17 09:49:37 what i do? Sep 17 09:51:42 The tftp command actually said it transfered the file? Sep 17 09:52:03 (Btw, what did you do to need recovery in the first place?) Sep 17 10:01:07 hm Sep 17 10:02:56 lost connection.... Sep 17 10:10:40 Blathijs, how is 2.3.7.0. going? Sep 17 10:11:34 voorstad_: I'm making a slight detour trying to get the firmware a bit smaller right now Sep 17 10:11:58 voorstad_: I was testing on my 2.0g, turned out that openvpn + openssl was so big that I had only 200K left for plugins Sep 17 10:12:07 oeps Sep 17 10:12:26 Are you using the latest openwrt or will that be 3.x? Sep 17 10:12:33 blathijs Sep 17 10:12:35 no work Sep 17 10:12:43 ç_ç Sep 17 10:12:47 is still blinking Sep 17 10:12:49 voorstad_: No, still the same openwrt version Sep 17 10:12:52 barbon: weird... Sep 17 10:13:18 @ Barbon: with me transfer took 4 secs and gave a "succesfully transferred". Did you get this? Sep 17 10:13:47 blathijs yesterday Sep 17 10:13:54 i have installed audioclip plugin Sep 17 10:13:58 and fonera updater Sep 17 10:14:08 After that I saw the leds blinking, indicating that something was going on. After some minutes I saw MyPlace coming up Sep 17 10:14:15 i have started fonera updater and interupt it Sep 17 10:14:23 and after some minutes my fonera reboted Sep 17 10:14:35 and keep only power led green on Sep 17 10:14:39 the other led are all off Sep 17 10:15:20 And do you have anything plugged in? USB, Lan Cable? Sep 17 10:15:43 Is wifi switched to "on"? See button at the back Sep 17 10:16:17 y are speaking with me? Sep 17 10:16:23 wifi is on Sep 17 10:16:35 mmm dunno Sep 17 10:16:45 all led are off Sep 17 10:16:49 only the power is on Sep 17 10:17:22 now using fonera 1 with ddwr fw Sep 17 10:21:21 @ barbon: back to the beginning of the flash. did tftp gave a succesfull transfer? Sep 17 10:21:48 yea Sep 17 10:21:59 and in that moment Sep 17 10:22:00 and what did you do then? Sep 17 10:22:03 usb start to blink Sep 17 10:22:09 i keep connect for 20 minutes Sep 17 10:22:13 and continues to blink Sep 17 10:22:26 no MyPlace coming up? Sep 17 10:22:56 which binary file did you flash? Sep 17 10:31:25 hi Sep 17 10:34:54 ey Tas Sep 17 10:57:22 hi blathijs Sep 17 11:12:29 voorstad Sep 17 11:13:22 http://download.fonosfera.org/Restore/20091008_FON2303_2.3.0.0_Restore.bin Sep 17 11:13:35 maybe i have to use the restore for dev? Sep 17 11:13:46 http://download.fonosfera.org/Restore/ Sep 17 11:16:54 No, I used the same Sep 17 11:17:31 I was not aware of a DEV version Sep 17 11:22:03 and what happened Sep 17 11:22:08 after the restore? Sep 17 11:25:50 what i have to do? Sep 17 11:25:55 put fonera into trash? Sep 17 11:31:30 after the restore, I saw MyPlace coming up after 4-5 minutes Sep 17 11:34:42 :| Sep 17 11:34:49 y have rebotted the fonera? Sep 17 11:34:50 or no? Sep 17 11:36:12 fonera 2.0n don't have a failsave internal? Sep 17 11:36:13 :| Sep 17 11:40:22 barbon: I don't get the question? Are you speaking about the possibility of get you fon-ng back as new? Sep 17 11:40:46 yea because the fw is corrupted Sep 17 11:40:54 Or something more like a recovery boot? Sep 17 11:41:04 yes i tries the procedure on wiki Sep 17 11:41:12 don't work ... Sep 17 11:41:25 which procedure? Sep 17 11:42:33 sorry got to go Sep 17 11:42:35 see you later Sep 17 11:51:19 @barbon Sep 17 11:51:24 After the MyPlace got up Sep 17 11:51:36 I could login and configure Sep 17 11:51:48 After that I updated to 2.3.6.1 Sep 17 11:51:55 and rebooted Sep 17 11:52:24 I have done this tftp several times after eachother, it worked flawless Sep 17 11:52:56 You just have to give it some time Sep 17 11:54:49 mm.. Sep 17 11:55:28 how much time? Sep 17 11:56:55 4-5 minutes with me Sep 17 11:57:10 And don't unplug it in the meantime Sep 17 11:58:09 Just let it do it's work (flashing) Sep 17 12:45:15 :| Sep 17 12:51:41 @ barbon: do you see MyPlace coming up? Can you SSH into the fonera? Sep 17 12:51:52 no wifi Sep 17 12:51:55 no myplace Sep 17 12:51:57 no ssh Sep 17 12:52:27 mmm, I then guess the next question from blogic will be if you have a serial cable Sep 17 12:52:56 But do you have an XP machine tot do the trick with? Sep 17 12:53:03 Or a Linux pc? Sep 17 13:37:20 * seems barbon has given up.....?* Sep 17 13:44:09 hi all Sep 17 13:44:26 i need some help, is there someone? Sep 17 13:58:28 @ quincampox: See the top remark: Don't ask to ask, just ask you're question | No reply? Be patient! | Sep 17 14:01:02 quincampoix: And there's even a few people around :-) Sep 17 14:05:20 ok, thanks. i'm trying to access to my fonera dashboard from the internet. My fonera is behind a router, and i want to use the dyndns service. So, i set up the dyndns service on my router (not the fonera), gave the fonera a static ip, and i set up a rule in my router's firewall to forward the 443 port to the fonera. Sep 17 14:05:57 now, writing the dns url, i just get to my router's control panel Sep 17 14:06:19 quincampoix: Are you testing from the internet, or from within your own network? Sep 17 14:06:32 The latter is known not to work on most routers Sep 17 14:06:49 from my own network Sep 17 14:06:59 but i can't try from an external network Sep 17 14:07:24 Try http://translate.google.com/ :-) Sep 17 14:07:33 (Not sure if that works, though) Sep 17 14:08:03 ? Sep 17 14:08:21 Put your url in the box and ask Google to translate it, showing you the result Sep 17 14:08:31 but that probably doesn't work because of the password prompt Sep 17 14:08:32 ah ok, wait Sep 17 14:09:07 This might also be useful: http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ Sep 17 14:10:58 re Sep 17 14:11:06 trying the second method (google translate couldn't access the page) Sep 17 14:12:09 it says the 443 port is closed Sep 17 14:13:36 have you ever forwarded other ports from your router? Sep 17 14:14:16 i did port forwarding, but not on this router Sep 17 14:14:50 uhm Sep 17 14:15:25 the source ip is ANY, the destination is the fonera ip, the service activated is HTTPS(443) Sep 17 14:15:36 maybe you can try with something more simple, like forwarding a port to a 'nc -l' so you can check if works Sep 17 14:15:55 so 443->443? Sep 17 14:16:02 quincampoix: Did you enable the WebGUI in Settings -> Firewall -> Applications on the Fonera? Sep 17 14:16:47 mmh, i'm setting up rules through the router's web panel, should i write 'nc -l' instead of the destination ip? Sep 17 14:16:55 (blathijs the translate.google.com trick is brilliant!) Sep 17 14:17:14 blathijs: yes, i enabled webgui in the fonera's firewall Sep 17 14:17:16 ehm no, nc means netcat, a simple "server" Sep 17 14:17:49 i was wondering, since the fonera is the only device connected to the router, and since all my pc are connected to the fonera wlan Sep 17 14:18:00 can i just disable the router's firewall? Sep 17 14:19:05 it depends from your router, generally you can't Sep 17 14:20:11 blathijs: is the fonera listening on port 443? Sep 17 14:20:17 i mean, technically i can, but i don't know if this can bring some security issue. i guess not, since all the traffic passing through the router goes to the fonera, but i'm not sure Sep 17 14:22:08 uh ok. This brings the security issues depending from fremoving a security "layer", but also before the fonera you had only one :-p Sep 17 14:23:04 yes :) Sep 17 14:23:28 well, now i give it a try, just to check if this was the issue Sep 17 14:24:40 Tas: Yes, it should only listen on 443 on WAN Sep 17 14:25:08 ah, I never turned the listening from wan on, I relieve on vpn Sep 17 14:25:16 quincampoix: The Fonera should be secure enough for that, it can also be used with modems that do not have any NAT / firewall / routing Sep 17 14:25:51 ok, i disabled the firewall, and the 443 port still result as closed Sep 17 14:26:11 but there must be something missing Sep 17 14:27:02 if, for example, i had another device connected to the router, listening on the 443 port, wchich one would respond to an external request? Sep 17 14:27:04 quincampoix: What does "disable firewall" mean exactly Sep 17 14:27:26 there was an option in my panel "enable firewal", i unchecked it Sep 17 14:28:10 Hmm, I guess that just means it allows connections to the modem itself Sep 17 14:28:37 since to connect to a device behind the modem, you still have to configure a port forward (since otherwise the modem doesn't know which device to forward to) Sep 17 14:28:47 quincampoix: What's your public hostname? Sep 17 14:29:32 151.67.237.182 Sep 17 14:32:38 the dns is quincampoix.dyndns.org Sep 17 14:34:19 i asked a friend to try, he gets error Sep 17 14:37:35 Uhm, have you forwared the 443 on the "wan" ip or to the "internal" one? Sep 17 14:37:55 quincampoix: I see 21, 23 and 80 open (ftp, telnet, http) Sep 17 14:38:30 i forwarded on the wan ip of the fonera Sep 17 14:38:39 but now the firewall is disabled Sep 17 14:38:45 I think that forward is a word too hard to write for me :-p Sep 17 14:38:46 All other ports seem to be closed (e.g., connection refused sent), except for 8080, which is filtered (just no reply at all) Sep 17 14:39:42 quincampoix: Perhaps you should try to connect a PC to the modem directly, to see if you can reach HTTPS on the WAN ip of the Fonera then Sep 17 14:39:54 so to something like 192.168.1.? ? Sep 17 14:40:10 yess Sep 17 14:40:27 blathijs, wait, i try Sep 17 14:43:01 blathijs: why lua? :-p Sep 17 14:45:06 ok Sep 17 14:45:07 i tried Sep 17 14:45:13 i can't access to the dashboard Sep 17 14:45:18 but i tried the ftp service Sep 17 14:45:20 and it works Sep 17 14:48:32 i have a fonera 2.0g, should i check some other options than the firewall settings? Sep 17 14:58:05 Tas: Dunno ;-) Sep 17 15:01:23 hi, i'm here again... my connection failed Sep 17 15:02:45 heh Sep 17 15:02:58 quincampoix: Ah, it's a 2.0g? Sep 17 15:03:09 quincampoix: Then you might want to check HTTP instead of HTTPS Sep 17 15:03:33 i tried, but i get my router's panel Sep 17 15:04:20 no, sorry Sep 17 15:04:24 i mean from outside Sep 17 15:04:27 i try from inside Sep 17 15:06:37 ok Sep 17 15:06:55 You might need to forward another port, since the router will probably have its own interface on port 80 Sep 17 15:07:09 so, check port 80 on the Fonera WAN side Sep 17 15:07:30 if that works, forward port 8000 or something to the Fonera's WAN IP port 80 Sep 17 15:08:56 i tried to connect to the fonera http port from the "inside" (computer connected to router's ethernet port) Sep 17 15:09:03 no page is shown Sep 17 15:09:06 instead, as i said Sep 17 15:09:11 ftp works Sep 17 15:10:20 hmm, thought we'd found the problem :-) Sep 17 15:10:50 (In recent 2.0n releases, the router listens only on HTTPS, but perhaps the 2.0g listens on HTTP only, not sure) Sep 17 15:11:01 uff, i'm here again Sep 17 15:11:07 hmm, thought we'd found the problem :-) Sep 17 15:11:08 (In recent 2.0n releases, the router listens only on HTTPS, but perhaps the 2.0g listens on HTTP only, not sure) Sep 17 15:11:20 ok Sep 17 15:11:49 i tried the 80 port Sep 17 15:12:02 but no page is shown Sep 17 15:12:09 instead, ftp works Sep 17 15:12:09 funky Sep 17 15:12:28 try my ftp from outside: ftp://quincampoix.dyndns.org Sep 17 15:13:35 Hmm, can't connect now Sep 17 15:13:36 to FTP Sep 17 15:13:48 nmap showed it as open before, thogh Sep 17 15:13:54 sorry Sep 17 15:13:56 try now Sep 17 15:14:16 21/tcp filtered ftp Sep 17 15:17:15 quincampoix_: Did you forward port 21 on your router? Sep 17 15:17:35 firewall is still disabled Sep 17 15:17:59 wait Sep 17 15:18:21 there is a NAT section in my firewall Sep 17 15:18:21 sorry Sep 17 15:18:21 i mean in my router Sep 17 15:18:58 That's where you forward ports, right? Sep 17 15:19:14 (As I said before, disabling the firewall won't magically forward all ports or something) Sep 17 15:19:36 (Forwarding is not completely identical to opening up a port on a firewall) Sep 17 15:20:12 sorry, bad irc connection Sep 17 15:20:34 there's a NAT section in my router's panel Sep 17 15:20:46 probably the problem's there Sep 17 15:21:35 the translation is set to SUA only, maybe i should choose full feature and edit it, or chose "none" Sep 17 15:24:03 or edit the SUA rules Sep 17 15:27:12 can you try again with ftp://quincampoix.dyndns.org ? Sep 17 15:31:14 quincampoix: That's a Zyxel? Sep 17 15:31:25 well, yes Sep 17 15:31:31 quincampoix: Yup, works now Sep 17 15:31:45 (I just recognized the interface, I have a similar one :-) Sep 17 15:31:57 so Sep 17 15:32:00 what do you see? Sep 17 15:32:07 the zyxel interface? Sep 17 15:32:20 No, the FTP works Sep 17 15:32:21 220---------- Welcome to Pure-FTPd ---------- Sep 17 15:32:25 ah, ok Sep 17 15:32:30 It looks like the Fonera banner Sep 17 15:32:34 it's a good thing :) Sep 17 15:33:06 i also set a SUA-NAT rule for the samba port (445) Sep 17 15:33:10 for the http port Sep 17 15:33:17 and for the https port Sep 17 15:33:31 so now i know that the fonera can be seen from the internet :) Sep 17 15:33:57 but i still cant access to the dashboard, neither from the internet nor from the wan Sep 17 15:37:22 quincampoix: Now I see 20, 21 and 445 open from the outside Sep 17 15:37:34 quincampoix: I'm not quite sure why you can't access the dashboard, though Sep 17 15:37:46 quincampoix: What error do you get when connecting from the WAN? Sep 17 15:38:01 Is the connection immediate, or after a timeout? Sep 17 15:38:08 s/connection/connection error/ Sep 17 15:38:21 immediate Sep 17 15:38:52 quincampoix: Did you try rebooting the Fonera? Sep 17 15:39:05 no Sep 17 15:39:06 :) Sep 17 15:39:08 i'm trying Sep 17 15:39:14 i will disconnect Sep 17 15:39:18 see you in a bit Sep 17 15:39:40 ok Sep 17 15:43:29 gtg bye Sep 17 15:44:02 here again Sep 17 15:44:08 nothing Sep 17 15:44:12 from the wan Sep 17 15:44:21 i can access the samba and ftp connection Sep 17 15:44:24 but not the dashboard Sep 17 15:44:47 what firmware version are you running? Sep 17 15:46:19 2.2.5.0 Sep 17 15:52:21 should i change something in the "public->WAN" (and others) policy in the firewall page? Sep 17 15:53:17 I think the default policies should be fine, but I haven't worked with that firmware in a while Sep 17 15:54:21 there's a newer one= Sep 17 15:54:24 ? Sep 17 15:54:29 i'll try to update Sep 17 15:56:43 Nope, for 2.0g this is the latest stable one Sep 17 15:56:52 There's an RC one, but it might have other problems Sep 17 15:56:52 ok Sep 17 15:57:06 (I'm working right now to get a new version out for 2.0g again) Sep 17 15:57:08 yes, better stick to this one Sep 17 15:57:51 but i think that if this were a bug, would be known Sep 17 15:58:03 i don't think i am the first one attempting such a connection Sep 17 15:59:21 That's the weird thing indeed :-) Sep 17 16:03:25 reading here: http://forum.fon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=432 Sep 17 16:03:37 it says i should enable the public->wan option Sep 17 16:06:43 i found this: http://forum.fon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=432 Sep 17 16:06:59 and i tried enabling the access "public->wan" Sep 17 16:07:00 quincampoix_: Not sure why that would help, but you could try it? Sep 17 16:07:02 but with no result Sep 17 16:08:23 with "public" it means the public wifi network, doesn't it? Sep 17 16:08:53 yes Sep 17 16:10:46 well Sep 17 16:10:52 i really don't know what to do Sep 17 16:11:10 maybe i should switch to developer's interface? Sep 17 16:11:29 That might aid in debugging, through SSH we might be able to find out what is wrong Sep 17 16:11:37 e.g., look from the inside Sep 17 16:12:08 But I'm out of time for today Sep 17 16:12:24 I can probably help you out further next week Sep 17 16:14:14 ok Sep 17 16:14:24 you have been really kind Sep 17 16:15:01 :-) Sep 17 16:15:04 when can i found you on the channel? Sep 17 16:16:43 I'll be here most of the time. I might be busy installing a server next monday and/or tuesday, though Sep 17 16:16:52 best to just poke me :-) Sep 17 16:17:21 ok Sep 17 16:17:37 thank you! Sep 17 21:55:44 blathijs Sep 17 21:55:51 i have restored Sep 17 21:55:53 the fw Sep 17 21:56:01 i used the restore firmware for dev Sep 17 21:56:04 z.z Sep 17 21:57:28 wiki need to be updated Sep 17 21:57:30 :| Sep 17 22:08:07 somesone here? Sep 18 00:15:56 hi **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Sep 18 02:59:57 2010