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May 25 08:56:31 <rhkfin> Hi there - has anyone else experienced the failure of installation (qi installation is run on every reboot -> infinite loop..) with these instructions: http://koolu.com/~marcelo/README
May 25 08:56:52 <rhkfin> Or can someone point me to a similar but working installation method (ie: wget & tar an .tar on SD & boot..)
May 25 09:12:52 <ColdFyre> are you interested in trying panicking's images instead?
May 25 09:17:33 <rhkfin> ColdFyre: I'm interested in trying _some_ Android images that show me where are we going with Android (and with no much hassle about the installation..)
May 25 09:19:20 <ColdFyre> here
May 25 09:19:22 <ColdFyre> http://serdar-dere.net/panicking/
May 25 09:19:48 <ColdFyre> 14.6 works decent with gprs
May 25 09:20:00 <rhkfin> so I flash these as any other distro with dfu-util?
May 25 09:20:01 <rhkfin> Nice!
May 25 09:20:08 <ColdFyre> the cupcake v6 works good, but no gprs,etc yet, that is bieng worked on
May 25 09:20:11 <ColdFyre> yup
May 25 09:20:27 <ColdFyre> and for the kernel, you can use the v13 for uboot
May 25 09:20:30 <rhkfin> Does it require uSD after flashing?
May 25 09:20:32 <ColdFyre> or v17 with qi
May 25 09:20:37 <ColdFyre> yes, it does
May 25 09:20:45 <ColdFyre> you need to partition the sd card
May 25 09:20:49 <rhkfin> ok
May 25 09:21:22 <rhkfin> what partitions I need. I have a 512M card to play with
May 25 09:21:57 <ColdFyre> might need to double check the wiki, i think it's a fat partition, then and ext3
May 25 09:22:58 <ColdFyre> i run the cupcake v6 on mine and use it as an everyday phone, it's pretty nice
May 25 09:23:01 <rhkfin> ok, will check So v17 kernel for Qi and v6 cupcake for rootfs
May 25 09:23:40 <ColdFyre> yes..if you modified u-boot for kernels larger than 2 megs, you can use uboot isntead of qi,
May 25 09:23:49 <rhkfin> I prefer qi
May 25 09:24:46 <ColdFyre> personally i had some odd crashes when editing contacts when using qi, but noone else has seen that bug to date
May 25 09:26:10 <rhkfin> any tips of the partition sizes..?
May 25 09:26:44 <rhkfin> types. 1st is vfat, 2nd ext3 (ext2ok..?). On a 1G they recommend to give 768 on the vfat - how about 512M..
May 25 09:26:49 <ColdFyre> the first one is used for media, the second is used for system settings
May 25 09:27:08 <rhkfin> ok..
May 25 09:27:15 <ColdFyre> my vfat is 20 megs, hah
May 25 09:27:25 <rhkfin> how much the settings could need?
May 25 09:27:33 <rhkfin> ColdFyre: not much media there :)
May 25 09:27:40 <ColdFyre> no idea..megs
May 25 09:27:59 <ColdFyre> yeah, i don't have any media on my phone, the settings take a meg or so, i think
May 25 09:28:02 <rhkfin> I'll put 100M to be on the save side
May 25 09:28:27 <ColdFyre> you can always resize later :)
May 25 09:28:36 <rhkfin> right..
May 25 09:28:53 <rhkfin> (I'll propably remove it in days - just want to give it a try)
May 25 09:30:13 <rhkfin> Hmm.. actually I set the media side to 100M. Whatever :)
May 25 09:31:04 <ColdFyre> panicking said he plans to release v7 this week, and have wifi/gps/gprs/sensors fixes
May 25 09:31:14 <rhkfin> ok, nice
May 25 09:31:28 <ColdFyre> development has been pretty steady
May 25 09:33:28 <rhkfin> ok
May 25 09:57:38 <rhkfin> Hmm.. interesting.. I've prepared the uSD partitions, I have flashed both rootfs and kernel and it still tells me that it can't start..
May 25 09:58:31 <rhkfin> it find's the image but tells me 'bad data CRC'.. Think there's someting wrong in the kernel file of flashing..?
May 25 10:38:27 * rhkfin goes back to om2009, will check Android later again :)
May 25 11:58:41 <solarw> hi all
May 25 11:59:02 <Serdar> hi you
May 25 11:59:18 <solarw> how can i run snapshot-v6? i flashed my neo but booting stops on android logo blinking
May 25 12:05:02 <solarw> Serdar, has any idea?
May 25 12:06:27 <Serdar> I couldn't run v6 eigther :)
May 25 12:07:50 <solarw> so sad
May 25 12:08:06 <solarw> Serdar, v4 or v5 not running too?
May 25 12:16:55 <Serdar> never tested
May 25 14:01:43 <pbaxter> hello...does someone know a version of android where wifi and bluetooth work?
May 25 16:38:17 <panicking> hi all
May 25 16:38:24 <panicking> I write the accelerometer
May 25 16:39:25 <panicking> for the cupcake
May 25 16:39:28 <panicking> I have some issue
May 25 18:41:30 <serdar> hi
May 25 19:24:08 <m2> hi, what's up?
May 25 21:15:54 <panicking> hi all
May 25 21:24:31 <ColdFyre> hih
May 25 21:31:43 <panicking> I write the accelerometer
May 25 21:31:55 <panicking> I put on the serder repository
May 25 21:32:17 <panicking> is not ok, there is still some bug in deactivation and some pending issue for the rotation
May 25 21:32:18 <panicking> part
May 25 21:32:31 <ColdFyre> nice
May 25 21:32:56 <ColdFyre> i'll try it wjen i get the image
May 25 21:33:12 <ColdFyre> i can't wait for gps/gprs :)
May 25 21:35:07 <serdar> I can't wait to use the repo without fail :)
May 25 21:36:29 <ColdFyre> haha
May 25 21:37:06 <serdar> tz
May 25 21:37:06 <ColdFyre> i'm just curious, is there something that can be done speed up android(like the slow animations/lag)
May 25 21:37:30 <ColdFyre> later down the road
May 25 21:38:13 <serdar> I guess we can through some unnecessary parts for openmoko
May 25 21:38:33 <serdar> s/through/throw
May 25 21:38:47 <ColdFyre> ah, so it's mostly the hardware of thje neo?
May 25 21:39:23 <panicking> Yes I was thinking to write the 2d acceleration part
May 25 21:39:37 <panicking> but I'm not sure that it can increase the performance
May 25 21:39:41 <serdar> could be, but for example, we don't need the camera part
May 25 21:39:59 <serdar> do we? guess not
May 25 21:42:01 <ColdFyre> no
May 25 21:42:02 <ColdFyre> lol
May 25 21:42:14 <ColdFyre> no camera..unless someone hooks up a usb camera
May 25 21:42:29 <ColdFyre> but, would removing that even matter?
May 25 21:42:44 <serdar> nice idea with so much battery draining we have :)
May 25 21:43:16 <serdar> no idea, but I think there will be some modules loaded etc.
May 25 21:43:29 <serdar> if we can clean that the code will be thiner
May 25 21:44:31 <serdar> to say it in other words: it can't be worse
May 25 21:45:34 <serdar> (maybe) :D
May 25 21:45:55 <ColdFyre> :p
May 25 21:51:34 <panicking> I put the accelerometer driver in your server
May 25 21:51:40 <panicking> so koolu can take a look too
May 25 21:51:43 <serdar> panicking, btw. how are you useing the repo with svn?
May 25 21:53:27 <serdar> or is repo working now?
May 25 21:57:47 <panicking> Is not working yes
May 25 21:57:53 <panicking> because I don't have time to fix
May 25 21:57:56 <panicking> but people
May 25 21:58:04 <panicking> can checkout manually each project
May 25 21:58:42 <panicking> m2, if you want you can take a look to libsensors liblight and the change of the vibrator
May 25 21:58:46 <panicking> for the cupcake
May 25 22:23:43 <ColdFyre> serdar:  you need a new connection
May 25 22:24:25 <serdar> I need a time machine
May 25 22:26:02 <ColdFyre> :)
May 25 22:26:18 <serdar> and a clone machine
May 25 22:29:05 <serdar> actually I need 7 clones: 1 for operating systems 1 for microcontroller systems, 1 for real-time systems, 1 for system programming, 1 for japanese, 1 for all my projects and 1 who chills
May 25 22:32:53 <serdar> need to sleep now. good night
May 26 01:22:24 <simond> are there any cupcake builds floating about?
May 26 01:24:07 <ColdFyre> http://serdar-dere.net/panicking/freerunner-cupcake-snapshot-v6.jffs2
May 26 01:50:02 <simond> will that work with the bootloader that koolu is distributing, or would I boot off the nor bootloader?
May 26 01:57:38 <ColdFyre> either
May 26 01:57:47 <ColdFyre> i use the modified uboot
May 26 02:52:37 <simond> hmm, stuck at the koolu screen
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