**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 27 02:59:57 2009 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 27 05:58:11 2009 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 27 06:00:14 2009 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 27 06:02:16 2009 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 27 06:03:37 2009 Jul 27 09:55:39 hi Jul 27 10:00:26 hi Jul 27 15:13:31 serdar__, Hi Jul 27 15:13:40 ok I released the cupcake stable version Jul 27 15:19:07 hi Jul 27 15:20:26 panicking, where did you released it? Jul 27 15:23:35 my web site Jul 27 15:23:42 the binary Jul 27 15:23:46 then I will update Jul 27 15:23:49 the repository Jul 27 15:23:56 I have changed the kernel too Jul 27 15:24:37 - freerunner-cupcake-snapshot-v10.jffs2 Jul 27 15:24:37 What's new? Jul 27 15:24:37 1 - soft keyboard Jul 27 15:24:37 2 - receive call Jul 27 15:24:37 3 - backlight Jul 27 15:24:38 4 - answer call Jul 27 15:24:40 5 - sensors Jul 27 15:24:42 6 - dropbear server (use it and for root the password is password) Jul 27 15:24:44 7 - fix slowdown Jul 27 15:24:46 8 - wifi fix Jul 27 15:24:48 9 - vold crash fix Jul 27 15:24:50 The best thing is to reformat the ext3 partition and use it with the uImage-v21.bin Jul 27 15:24:52 INCOMING CALL Jul 27 15:24:54 Basically, just get a shell with adb and execute the fiollowing: Jul 27 15:24:56 # sqlite3 /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db Jul 27 15:25:00 sqlite3 /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db Jul 27 15:25:02 SQLite version 3.5.9 Jul 27 15:25:04 Enter ".help" for instructions Jul 27 15:25:06 sqlite> INSERT INTO secure (name, value) VALUES ('device_provisioned', 1); Jul 27 15:25:08 sqlite> .exit Jul 27 15:31:17 hmm Jul 27 15:31:29 wah I want my moko back :( Jul 27 15:31:48 ColdFyre, there? Jul 27 15:32:37 soul9, maybe you? Jul 27 15:33:24 I have crash in https site Jul 27 15:33:40 where? Jul 27 15:33:46 gmail Jul 27 15:34:10 use michael@serdar-dere.net instead :P Jul 27 15:39:52 Yes I know Jul 27 15:39:59 but the brawser crash Jul 27 15:40:01 in some web site Jul 27 15:40:06 and android go down Jul 27 15:40:08 and up again Jul 27 15:41:41 hmm Jul 27 15:42:50 I will have october a new server Jul 27 15:44:12 https://ssl.euserv.de/produkte/specials/summer-server2009.php?sess_id=6bab86a2d71228cc817ac17d98952e4a I am looking for this, but this is near 20 EUR more than I want to spend :/ Jul 27 15:48:31 I will take this one instead https://ssl.euserv.de/produkte/server/misurfi_m_2009.php?sess_id=6bab86a2d71228cc817ac17d98952e4a Jul 27 15:48:42 it's better than this one I have now Jul 27 15:50:47 serdar__: ? Jul 27 15:51:16 you looking for a cheap place to buy a moko? Jul 27 15:51:32 no Jul 27 15:51:50 I have one, it's in munich for buzz-fix Jul 27 15:52:09 ahh Jul 27 15:52:17 soul9, btw. try panickings latest release Jul 27 15:52:19 so then ? Jul 27 15:52:21 will do Jul 27 15:52:32 I am looking for a new server Jul 27 15:52:37 serdar__: is it on your mirror allready? Jul 27 15:52:41 ah, i see Jul 27 15:52:52 what kind of server and for around how much? Jul 27 15:52:59 no it's on panicking.kicks-ass.org/download Jul 27 15:53:10 ok, thx Jul 27 15:53:34 model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz Jul 27 15:53:58 256M Ram Jul 27 15:53:59 ? Jul 27 15:54:02 oh Jul 27 15:54:10 2TB traffic Jul 27 15:54:17 60G hdd Jul 27 15:55:01 and this new Athlon 3000+ is a 1.8GHz Processor iirc Jul 27 15:55:21 for how much? Jul 27 15:55:59 the celeron or the Athlon XP? Jul 27 15:56:11 well, what are you looking for? Jul 27 15:56:17 both? Jul 27 15:56:43 https://ssl.euserv.de/produkte/server/misurfi_m_2009.php?sess_id=6bab86a2d71228cc817ac17d98952e4a Jul 27 15:57:37 well Jul 27 15:58:17 i frankly know that digicube.com has a pretty damned competitive offer Jul 27 15:58:26 with raid1 for 5€+ per month Jul 27 15:58:29 no bw limit Jul 27 15:58:38 1Gb/s Jul 27 15:58:39 sistemato il crash Jul 27 15:58:46 35€ Jul 27 15:58:47 I fix the crash Jul 27 15:58:50 maybe Jul 27 15:58:57 panicking: so i shouldn't try v10? Jul 27 15:59:03 and the celeron 30.67EUR Jul 27 15:59:06 Yes Jul 27 15:59:12 But I must update Jul 27 15:59:13 vold Jul 27 15:59:17 it's perfect Jul 27 15:59:27 wait Jul 27 16:02:00 * soul9 cancels the download Jul 27 16:02:09 and goes to make some coffee, brb Jul 27 16:02:18 digi medium sounds fine Jul 27 16:02:25 but everything is italian Jul 27 16:02:31 so maybe the support too Jul 27 16:08:24 it's in french Jul 27 16:08:40 maybe Jul 27 16:08:51 i bet they have english support too, though, emme see Jul 27 16:09:14 err, he's not online, i'll ask him Jul 27 16:09:23 there is also dedibox.fr, do you know that? Jul 27 16:09:53 their pro server is one amazing offer, though it's probably too expensive for what yu are looking for Jul 27 16:12:19 I can't use my net wid connection Jul 27 16:12:25 to high traffic Jul 27 16:12:26 :( Jul 27 16:14:17 er...your home connection is overloaded? Jul 27 16:17:04 I have some random crash Jul 27 16:17:11 but I see a lot of web site Jul 27 16:17:13 picasaweb Jul 27 16:17:14 google Jul 27 16:17:17 yahoo Jul 27 16:17:20 open photo Jul 27 16:17:21 etc Jul 27 16:24:41 er i don't get it Jul 27 16:24:49 i don't even get what is happening Jul 27 16:25:11 panicking: you are just uploading a new image, but your network connection is randomly crashing? Jul 27 16:25:34 No the connection Jul 27 16:25:35 is good Jul 27 16:25:40 but a people Jul 27 16:25:46 use all my bandwitdh Jul 27 16:25:56 aaaaaaaah crap! Jul 27 16:26:05 i didn't interrupt the download, sorry man Jul 27 16:26:08 it was me Jul 27 16:26:32 i have 100Mbit/s connection at home, so it was probably me hogging you down, finished tnow though Jul 27 16:27:36 ooops, now panicking.kicks-ass.org is down :( Jul 27 16:27:47 yes i know Jul 27 16:27:50 I must test Jul 27 16:27:54 one thing Jul 27 16:27:57 use wget Jul 27 16:28:04 i do, yeah Jul 27 16:28:05 then Jul 27 16:28:25 you could maybe release torrents? i'd happily seed! Jul 27 16:29:55 Nothing, I have some crash Jul 27 16:30:00 but I don't have the log Jul 27 16:30:02 now Jul 27 16:32:39 hmm, then since i finally downloaded it i'll flash and check Jul 27 16:59:09 panicking: there is a message about mountd missing like last time Jul 27 16:59:21 the last cupcake wouldn't work for me Jul 27 16:59:49 Sorry Jul 27 16:59:52 do you have Jul 27 16:59:55 two partition Jul 27 16:59:55 the "settings application" kept crashing, i could do nothing, there was a "settings application crashed" dialog comming up every 5 second Jul 27 16:59:56 ? Jul 27 17:00:03 yeah, on the sdcard? Jul 27 17:00:08 yes Jul 27 17:00:10 first is vfat second is ext3 Jul 27 17:00:11 do you clean Jul 27 17:00:16 your ext3 partition Jul 27 17:00:19 do you create Jul 27 17:00:20 yeah, i had just done a mkfs on both Jul 27 17:00:21 the sdcard Jul 27 17:00:25 mount point Jul 27 17:00:28 on ext3 Jul 27 17:00:29 ah Jul 27 17:00:30 ! Jul 27 17:00:31 partition Jul 27 17:00:32 no Jul 27 17:00:42 so i have to create /sdcard on the ext3 partition? Jul 27 17:00:47 okay, i didn't know that Jul 27 17:00:55 thanks, cool Jul 27 17:06:25 Do you use Jul 27 17:06:27 the uImage Jul 27 17:06:29 u20 Jul 27 17:06:29 ok, mine isn't booting, it looks like... Jul 27 17:06:43 i have flashed the 21 with the newest snapshot cupcake Jul 27 17:06:49 ok Jul 27 17:06:53 21 sorry Jul 27 17:06:55 mayve Jul 27 17:07:04 you must update Jul 27 17:07:05 vold Jul 27 17:07:08 I change again Jul 27 17:07:10 It crash Jul 27 17:07:12 sometimes Jul 27 17:07:23 I'm doing a test Jul 27 17:07:26 now Jul 27 17:07:43 vold? Jul 27 17:07:53 It's a daemon Jul 27 17:07:55 for battery Jul 27 17:07:58 mmc Jul 27 17:08:01 etc Jul 27 17:08:05 it crash on battery event Jul 27 17:08:20 ah.. Jul 27 17:08:31 that may be it Jul 27 17:08:45 i see the android bootsplash flicker every once in a while Jul 27 17:08:51 but it can't start the graphics Jul 27 17:09:01 can it be because it can't detect battery charge? Jul 27 17:09:18 i have a nokia battery in because the FIC battery is too much discharged for now Jul 27 17:09:27 so i need to boot the phone to be able to charge itt Jul 27 17:11:48 gah the freerunner battery system sucks!!! Jul 27 17:12:01 wtf, can't charge it until the phone boots Jul 27 17:12:08 :-( Jul 27 17:19:16 Does it boot?> Jul 27 17:19:45 it shows the ndroid bootsplash indefinitely Jul 27 17:19:58 Sorry Jul 27 17:20:08 Can you send me a logcat Jul 27 17:20:09 ? Jul 27 17:25:10 i'd love to Jul 27 17:25:20 if the thing would actually boot Jul 27 17:25:30 ok, a sec.. Jul 27 17:26:50 oh wow, it did boot! Jul 27 17:27:29 panicking: well, adb doesn't seem to be running, and i have a window comming up every 5 seconds that says: Jul 27 17:27:56 The process android.process.media has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again. Jul 27 17:30:42 :( Jul 27 17:31:06 ooo, gotta start usb networking, right! Jul 27 17:34:00 yes you can Jul 27 17:34:08 you can log in Jul 27 17:34:15 try mount Jul 27 17:34:16 command Jul 27 17:34:19 maybe Jul 27 17:34:30 trying rebooting Jul 27 17:34:47 adb didn't seem to be started on the phone, adb would just hang there.. Jul 27 17:34:53 even with usb networking up.. Jul 27 17:36:46 the moko doesn't even seem to repond to ping :-/ Jul 27 17:37:55 well Jul 27 17:38:01 if i go into settings Jul 27 17:38:07 and check sdcard storage Jul 27 17:38:12 it tells me there is 0 space Jul 27 17:38:22 at the same time it looks like it's mounted Jul 27 17:40:12 how do i enable usb networking? Jul 27 17:41:57 go setting Jul 27 17:42:00 application Jul 27 17:42:01 debug Jul 27 17:42:04 usb debug Jul 27 17:42:43 it is enabled Jul 27 17:43:10 is the ip the same as the default for the other moko distribs? Jul 27 17:43:22 (192.168.0.202)? Jul 27 17:43:28 yes Jul 27 17:43:40 are you italian Jul 27 17:43:41 ? Jul 27 17:43:53 no, i'm french/hungarian Jul 27 17:46:24 panicking: yay! Jul 27 17:46:26 now it pongs Jul 27 17:46:33 i was missing iptables on my laptop ;) Jul 27 17:47:01 ok Jul 27 17:47:10 can you show me Jul 27 17:47:11 the mount Jul 27 17:47:15 ∑re Jul 27 17:47:16 command result Jul 27 17:47:16 sure* Jul 27 17:47:44 rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0 Jul 27 17:47:44 /dev/root / jffs2 ro 0 0 Jul 27 17:47:44 tmpfs /dev tmpfs rw,mode=755 0 0 Jul 27 17:47:44 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=600 0 0 Jul 27 17:47:44 proc /proc proc rw 0 0 Jul 27 17:47:45 sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0 Jul 27 17:47:47 /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data ext3 rw,nosuid,nodev,errors=continue,data=ordered 0 0 Jul 27 17:47:52 hmm Jul 27 17:47:56 sdcard still not mounted Jul 27 17:48:05 That is you probelm Jul 27 17:48:15 your problem Jul 27 17:48:22 how do i do it again? i don't remember Jul 27 17:48:27 mkdir /sdcard right? Jul 27 17:48:38 first remount root rw Jul 27 17:49:20 Maybe I fix some crash Jul 27 17:49:21 ok, rebooting, we'll see Jul 27 17:49:59 yes Jul 27 17:50:18 but prepare to download Jul 27 17:50:21 the next version Jul 27 17:50:24 some fixes on Jul 27 17:50:31 the framework part Jul 27 17:51:21 ok Jul 27 17:51:22 sorry I fell asleep Jul 27 17:51:25 tell me when Jul 27 17:52:10 panicking: the fragcom mirror is way out of date... Jul 27 18:00:36 yep, that took care of the media process crashing nonstop, that's nice Jul 27 18:00:49 panicking: tell me when the newer image is out Jul 27 18:00:59 if it works well i'll create a torrent and webseed it Jul 27 18:01:38 ok Jul 27 18:02:13 :( import contacts from sim still doesn't work :( Jul 27 18:03:22 oh wow!!! Jul 27 18:03:31 no, it does work with my hungarian sim!! Jul 27 18:03:32 nice Jul 27 18:04:44 oops no, the contacts are displayed but import a contact and acore crashes :( Jul 27 18:06:56 I know Jul 27 18:07:00 that import does'nt work Jul 27 18:07:15 ok Jul 27 18:10:14 The problem is in the command Jul 27 18:10:19 seems that the callypso Jul 27 18:10:27 have a strange memory mapping Jul 27 18:10:29 I must ask Jul 27 18:10:32 to mickey Jul 27 18:10:51 * soul9 tries wifi Jul 27 18:11:10 uh oh Jul 27 18:11:28 the application settings (...) has stpped unexpectedly Jul 27 18:11:38 looks like something in the wireless settings is crashing Jul 27 18:11:58 yep, definitely Jul 27 18:13:25 have you updaye Jul 27 18:13:28 the db Jul 27 18:13:38 with the sql Jul 27 18:13:38 ahhhh Jul 27 18:13:39 query Jul 27 18:14:00 I find a regression Jul 27 18:14:03 in kernel battery Jul 27 18:14:08 for android I test again Jul 27 18:14:12 and put new file Jul 27 18:14:16 on download area Jul 27 18:15:05 ok Jul 27 18:16:22 doesn't help though Jul 27 18:16:34 just executed the sqlite query Jul 27 18:16:43 but wireless settings is still crashing Jul 27 18:17:52 * soul9 looks for a logcat Jul 27 18:19:21 yes Jul 27 18:19:28 can you have a pastebin Jul 27 18:19:28 ? Jul 27 18:19:32 ok yeap, i can definitely see some battery errors when i start setttings Jul 27 18:19:33 do you have Jul 27 18:19:34 sure thing, yeah Jul 27 18:19:37 ok Jul 27 18:19:43 I know Jul 27 18:19:46 ok I fix them Jul 27 18:20:11 I just fix Jul 27 18:20:12 maybe Jul 27 18:20:17 I test the wifi connect Jul 27 18:20:18 \☺/ Jul 27 18:22:33 hi Jul 27 18:23:31 to install koolu android beta 7, should the whole 512MB SD card be formated vfat? Jul 27 18:23:39 no Jul 27 18:23:42 oh! Jul 27 18:23:43 yes Jul 27 18:24:00 yeah, it will the automatically flash itself and setup the sdcard Jul 27 18:24:09 ok cool Jul 27 18:39:26 ... Jul 27 18:39:34 panicking: your server is down :-/ Jul 27 18:42:05 up Jul 27 18:42:12 take only the latest kernel Jul 27 18:42:13 :) Jul 27 18:42:40 ook Jul 27 18:42:43 just the kernel? Jul 27 18:42:54 v 22? Jul 27 18:44:48 booting Jul 27 18:45:23 I just installed cupcake 1.5alpha1 on my freerunner A6. With incoming calls, the caller hears an echo. Is there a fix for that? Jul 27 18:46:14 err, alpha1 from where? :-/ Jul 27 18:46:58 panicking: wireless controls still crashing Jul 27 18:47:01 lemme see the logcat Jul 27 18:47:34 soul9: from android freerunner mailing list Jul 27 18:47:48 ÷/ Jul 27 18:47:54 * soul9 doesn't know that one Jul 27 18:48:25 dowload Jul 27 18:48:28 the latest kernel Jul 27 18:48:47 done that Jul 27 18:48:50 v22 right? Jul 27 18:48:58 http://www.mail-archive.com/android-freerunner@android.koolu.org/msg01046.html Jul 27 18:51:32 Now don't crash Jul 27 18:51:35 for the battert Jul 27 18:51:50 no Jul 27 18:51:59 there is a different error for wireless Jul 27 18:52:03 pasting logcat.. Jul 27 18:52:51 http://friendpaste.com/4yvGaMByGHL4iJSp6A4yA8 Jul 27 18:52:53 panicking: ^ Jul 27 18:54:25 What happen Jul 27 18:54:26 ? Jul 27 18:54:45 I deleted the two ext3 partitions on /dev/mmcblk0 Jul 27 18:55:00 This can't be happen Jul 27 18:55:02 the a2dp Jul 27 18:55:04 well, when i choose wireless settings the "application settings (...) has ended unexpectedly" dialog appears Jul 27 18:55:06 bluetooth Jul 27 18:55:07 how do I create a single VFAT partition using fdisk Jul 27 18:55:10 is not compiled Jul 27 18:55:18 and mkfs.vfat Jul 27 18:55:20 and i get thrown back to the settings menu Jul 27 18:55:49 Do you have clean Jul 27 18:55:51 partition Jul 27 18:55:51 ? Jul 27 18:55:55 and download Jul 27 18:55:59 the latest snapshot Jul 27 18:56:00 ? Jul 27 18:56:07 rss: try cfdisk instead. I find it easier. Jul 27 18:56:29 I did fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 and deleted the exisiting partitions Jul 27 18:56:47 had umounted /media/card Jul 27 18:56:49 panicking: me? Jul 27 18:56:51 did not clean it Jul 27 18:57:03 well, i didn't clean the partitions after installing the latest kernel Jul 27 18:57:08 (v22 from v21) Jul 27 18:57:13 err ... Jul 27 18:57:33 Well we can talk tomorrow Jul 27 18:57:36 But now I have a version Jul 27 18:57:46 that it's very good Jul 27 18:57:59 ☺ Jul 27 18:58:04 heh, no it isn't :( Jul 27 18:58:07 I don't have a separate card reader Jul 27 18:58:20 so need to format it using freerunner Jul 27 18:58:50 broxtor: how is that koolu alpha image? Jul 27 18:58:53 how do I make a single big vfat partition? I have always used the fdisk with curses interface Jul 27 18:58:58 (koolu.org is down :-/) Jul 27 18:59:49 soul9: With an SD card it's pretty reasonable. Wifi works, calling works, although with echo. GPRS doesn't work. And without SD card it's painfully slow. Jul 27 19:00:30 hmm Jul 27 19:01:00 pity koolu.org is down Jul 27 19:01:22 would you guys test this: http://www.igor-cota.iz.hr/files/YouTube.apk Jul 27 19:01:22 any koolu devs around? Jul 27 19:01:58 doesn't look like it... Jul 27 19:02:00 oh well Jul 27 19:02:08 broxtor: how does the installation go? Jul 27 19:02:31 is it an installer, or have to unpack to sdcard Jul 27 19:02:45 flawlessly. Copy files to SD card. Then boot from SD card and you're good to go. Jul 27 19:02:56 and if so where to? need to create two partitions same as with other images? Jul 27 19:03:05 it's an installer you have put an SD card Jul 27 19:03:08 one vfat one ext3? Jul 27 19:03:10 ah! Jul 27 19:03:10 ok Jul 27 19:03:13 cool Jul 27 19:03:22 I had one partition vfat Jul 27 19:03:27 igor321: sorry, my wifi on android is not working right now. Jul 27 19:03:36 broxtor: yeah, that's the way the installer works Jul 27 19:03:42 My other SD card has two partitions and those don't get recognized Jul 27 19:03:44 it is koolu.com not koolu.org Jul 27 19:04:16 read the mail broxtor pasted a little earlier before commenting thank you Jul 27 19:04:25 koolu.org exists, it's where their trac is Jul 27 19:04:40 soul9: It's down indeed Jul 27 19:04:41 and i guess that's where they put development images too Jul 27 19:04:48 :( Jul 27 19:05:13 i have a hard time understanding panicking, his english could use some polish... Jul 27 19:05:30 soul9: polishing or polish? Jul 27 19:05:34 :D Jul 27 19:05:55 * soul9 was preparing for that question :D Jul 27 19:06:08 yeah, i don't think mixing polish in would do any good ;) Jul 27 19:06:17 :-) Jul 27 19:08:10 yay Jul 27 19:08:14 koolu.org back up! Jul 27 19:08:29 soul9: rss_ was also right. Koolu.com works also. Jul 27 19:08:36 oh? Jul 27 19:08:39 o well Jul 27 19:08:44 * soul9 downloading that image Jul 27 19:14:16 how to create a single big vfat partition in the sd card? Jul 27 19:14:27 d is for deleting partitions Jul 27 19:14:40 so if you have two primary partitions you would do d1 Jul 27 19:14:41 d2 Jul 27 19:14:43 erm Jul 27 19:14:44 d 1 Jul 27 19:14:46 d 2 Jul 27 19:14:47 now I am getting a 8MB VFAT partition in /dev/mmcblk0p1 Jul 27 19:14:52 then n Jul 27 19:14:55 and answer questions Jul 27 19:15:09 it asks about cylinders Jul 27 19:15:17 should that be deafault 1? Jul 27 19:15:18 soul9, how is panickings image? Jul 27 19:15:22 default, yeah Jul 27 19:15:29 serdar__: wireless problems Jul 27 19:15:34 the wireless settings crashes Jul 27 19:15:45 rss_: default will use the whole disk Jul 27 19:15:59 what's with sensors, calls and the blacklight? Jul 27 19:16:05 err Jul 27 19:16:08 didn't test calls Jul 27 19:16:08 soul9: that's the desired result Jul 27 19:16:16 sensors - what do you mean by sensors? Jul 27 19:16:24 rss_: i know. Jul 27 19:23:08 soul9, open the settings menu Jul 27 19:24:55 ? Jul 27 19:25:14 serdar__: ? Jul 27 19:25:47 looks like android doesn't like my 4Gb SD card. It doesn't recognize it, no matter how I format i. My 500Mb works without a problem..... Jul 27 19:26:45 hi pbaxter Jul 27 19:27:00 hi serdar__ Jul 27 19:27:04 how are you? Jul 27 19:27:05 soul9, open the settings Jul 27 19:27:18 also which is the website where i can download your images? Jul 27 19:27:21 pbaxter, my feet still hurt, but okay and you? Jul 27 19:27:53 serdar__: ... Jul 27 19:27:56 yes? Jul 27 19:28:07 hold it with two hands Jul 27 19:28:09 it's fine serdar__ i'm in sweden Jul 27 19:28:22 back to milan tomorrow than to st. moritz in swiss to my girl Jul 27 19:28:25 you? Jul 27 19:28:49 I am still in Germany :) Jul 27 19:29:01 :-/ Jul 27 19:29:02 wtf? Jul 27 19:29:13 why would it matter with how many hands i hold it? :-/ Jul 27 19:29:14 my homepage will be kind of under construction till october Jul 27 19:29:46 soul9, I guess that you will hold it widescreen if you hold it with two hands Jul 27 19:29:57 ahhhh Jul 27 19:29:58 ok Jul 27 19:30:18 so when you say sensors you mean rotation? Jul 27 19:30:45 pbaxter: are you going up the maloja side? Jul 27 19:30:46 well, the sensor works very well, from logcat i see at once that the device is rotated, but i think the rotation itself is waaaaaay slow Jul 27 19:30:50 it does happen tho Jul 27 19:30:59 hm Jul 27 19:31:21 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr821OgnvYc Jul 27 19:31:23 look that Jul 27 19:31:25 Meomer : i don't know Jul 27 19:31:32 Meomer: just going to swiss Jul 27 19:31:43 Meomer : to celerina Jul 27 19:31:46 (st moritz) Jul 27 19:32:02 if you're going by car chances are that you go via chiavenna then up the maloja Jul 27 19:32:06 soul9, as tat fast? Jul 27 19:32:12 hahaha Jul 27 19:32:18 i only know because i've been there few weeks ago Jul 27 19:32:20 serdar__: no, definitely not even close Jul 27 19:32:44 serdar__: but that's linux with x and xrandr. Jul 27 19:32:45 hmm but it works for every side? Jul 27 19:32:51 serdar__: dunno Jul 27 19:35:58 man this install is taking way long :-/ Jul 27 19:36:29 success! Jul 27 19:36:38 which is the menu key? Jul 27 19:36:40 Meomer : going with train Jul 27 19:36:47 milan to tirano, then tirano to pontresina Jul 27 19:36:48 power Jul 27 19:36:53 rss: power button Jul 27 19:36:58 rss_: meh ^ Jul 27 19:37:05 screen locked press menu key to unlock Jul 27 19:37:11 does someone of you use the v11 version of panicking? Jul 27 19:37:15 how is it working? Jul 27 19:37:21 v11? Jul 27 19:37:25 nothing happened after I pushed it Jul 27 19:37:29 is that the latest? Jul 27 19:37:45 no v12 Jul 27 19:37:55 hmmm Jul 27 19:38:25 man Jul 27 19:38:34 i was downloading an old image it looks like Jul 27 19:38:39 serdar__: disregard what i said Jul 27 19:38:43 i think i was using v10 Jul 27 19:39:24 * soul9 tries v12 Jul 27 19:39:25 It is not getting unlocked Jul 27 19:39:35 even after pressing power button Jul 27 19:39:42 it should. Jul 27 19:39:53 how to reboot? Jul 27 19:40:04 aux button is lit Jul 27 19:40:37 do I have press aux and power button together to boot into android? Jul 27 19:40:49 no Jul 27 19:40:57 not for panicking Jul 27 19:41:08 you do need to use qi tho Jul 27 19:41:18 I am running qi Jul 27 19:41:32 BluesLee : where did you find v12? Jul 27 19:42:41 http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/freerunner-cupcake-snapshot-v12.jffs2 Jul 27 19:44:09 bye all (serdar__ sometimes i'll log in to meet you and know news ok?) Jul 27 19:44:11 bye all Jul 27 19:45:03 now it is running Jul 27 19:45:06 cool Jul 27 19:45:34 battery feedback won't be there, right? Jul 27 19:46:23 yes it will Jul 27 19:46:25 it should Jul 27 19:46:32 soul9: does the light on aux button will be there always? Jul 27 19:46:35 except if you use the v21 kernel Jul 27 19:46:47 rss: i don't know what it means Jul 27 19:46:50 but it means something Jul 27 19:47:05 light on aux button is lit Jul 27 19:47:11 is lighted Jul 27 19:47:33 i understand Jul 27 19:47:37 the red light, is it on, always? Jul 27 19:47:41 but i don't know what it means Jul 27 19:47:42 no Jul 27 19:47:45 it means something Jul 27 19:47:54 like "plugged in" or something Jul 27 19:47:54 oh symbolism Jul 27 19:48:01 charging! Jul 27 19:48:38 * soul9 kills the koolu installation, as it seems to stall Jul 27 19:49:03 ok people, thanks, bye! Jul 27 19:49:09 ciao Jul 27 19:49:11 thank you soul9 Jul 27 19:49:14 bye Jul 27 19:49:15 np Jul 27 19:49:30 that's a wrong answer Jul 27 19:49:42 what is? Jul 27 19:49:43 correct answer is "welcome" Jul 27 19:49:47 :P Jul 27 19:49:49 pf Jul 27 19:49:51 :D Jul 27 19:50:16 is the lates image from panicking okay? Jul 27 19:50:30 don't know Jul 27 19:50:44 no one tried it here? Jul 27 19:50:52 downloading atm.. Jul 27 19:51:05 man, i wish panicking made torrents or something Jul 27 19:51:11 hehe Jul 27 19:51:22 i was finished in 10 minutes Jul 27 19:51:29 * soul9 proposes that if v12 is good, he makes a torrent along with the uimage Jul 27 19:51:35 with a webseed on his webserver Jul 27 19:51:50 serdar should mirror it Jul 27 19:51:58 and also fragcom but they dont Jul 27 19:52:16 yeah, it's difficult with panicking Jul 27 19:52:40 it isn't well organised, it seems he updates to the same image often, and somehow the modification time isn't changed on the webserver Jul 27 19:52:45 so mirroring is difficult Jul 27 19:52:45 who is that guy, he makes good images, better than those of koolu Jul 27 19:52:52 yeah he does Jul 27 19:53:03 he's a kernel hacker :) Jul 27 19:53:23 he also wanted to hack some glamo stuff Jul 27 19:53:32 that's kernel too Jul 27 19:53:40 if you're talking about drm Jul 27 19:53:51 yeah Jul 27 19:54:09 the glamo chip sucks ass. did you know that the graphics pipeline on the glamo is the same as the sdcard data pipeline? Jul 27 19:54:12 i will try the image on a sd partition Jul 27 19:54:15 what design! awesome! Jul 27 19:54:17 ;) Jul 27 19:54:35 hmm Jul 27 19:54:56 a lot of things are not okay with the freeunner Jul 27 19:55:00 so writing/reading to/from sdcard slows graphics down Jul 27 19:55:01 :D Jul 27 19:55:21 hmm Jul 27 19:55:31 yeah...oh well, at least it's mostly opensurce hardware Jul 27 19:55:36 when i dont use the sd the system should be faster? Jul 27 19:55:56 well, but then you hit nand speed, which i think is slower than sd Jul 27 19:55:56 :) Jul 27 19:56:21 i need a new phone Jul 27 19:56:25 hahaha Jul 27 19:56:32 what would you get? Jul 27 19:56:46 i am happy with shr, gsm seems to be stable now Jul 27 19:56:55 i would get me the palm pre Jul 27 19:57:01 maybe htc hero Jul 27 19:57:05 shr is ugly and not well integrated:( Jul 27 19:57:22 yeah, i think i'd go for the heronot sold in france yet though Jul 27 19:57:38 it will start in august Jul 27 19:57:49 oh, it will? Jul 27 19:57:58 * soul9 wonders how many milions it will costr Jul 27 19:58:00 i think so Jul 27 19:58:11 460 euro Jul 27 19:58:17 hmmm Jul 27 19:58:20 from amazon Jul 27 19:58:29 yeah, i'm definitely not going to buy one i think :( Jul 27 19:58:32 not for a while Jul 27 19:58:39 though that phone is very tempting Jul 27 19:58:54 i dont like the android fs Jul 27 19:59:00 i don't really like the pre, the kbd looks way small Jul 27 19:59:06 BluesLee: fs? Jul 27 19:59:14 the filesystem Jul 27 19:59:21 what filesystem? Jul 27 19:59:31 it uses ext3/vfat Jul 27 19:59:53 i mean the directories used Jul 27 20:00:02 its not linux typical Jul 27 20:00:04 ah, filesystem layout Jul 27 20:00:08 yeah Jul 27 20:00:12 well Jul 27 20:00:15 i cant do a simple ssh Jul 27 20:00:20 the lfs is braindead anyways Jul 27 20:00:30 ssh is crap Jul 27 20:00:58 i bet there is an ssh server in java tho Jul 27 20:01:18 panicking installed dropbear Jul 27 20:01:26 oh, yeah Jul 27 20:01:28 fff Jul 27 20:01:40 * soul9 doesn't like ssh onebit Jul 27 20:02:39 aanyways Jul 27 20:02:48 83% done Jul 27 20:39:54 Folks what is the recommended koolu branch to use if we want to build our own image ? Jul 27 20:48:29 salve Jul 27 20:49:13 ma... Android non era compilato in java+Dalvik? Jul 27 20:50:49 powderluv:depends on what you want to build. Jul 27 20:50:51 cupcake? Jul 27 20:51:19 i think installer is for what koolu releases (automatic install version), i'm unsure, but i think it's updated to cupcake now Jul 27 20:51:29 cupcake branch is,well, cupcake Jul 27 20:51:44 goto trac.koolu.org iirc Jul 27 20:52:04 yeah Jul 27 20:52:05 yup i tried cupcake but it didnt compile cleanly Jul 27 20:52:13 no, doesn't seem to Jul 27 20:52:29 same with koolu-1.0 Jul 27 20:52:30 trac.koolu.org for instructions for building Jul 27 20:52:32 well Jul 27 20:52:35 now i am trying the tip Jul 27 20:52:41 then you might have a problem with your sdk tho Jul 27 20:52:54 what version of java sdk you have? Jul 27 20:53:08 yeah.. the SDK libraries seem to be off compared to upstream android Jul 27 20:53:08 1.6.0.12 is what is needed to build android iirc Jul 27 20:53:10 i am using 1.5 Jul 27 20:53:16 oh, definitely not Jul 27 20:53:28 you will need minimum 1.6.0.12 to build it Jul 27 20:53:31 i have 1.6 too.. but am using 1.5 because android build instructions recommened it Jul 27 20:53:41 ahh cool.. good to know.. i can switch it to 1.6 Jul 27 20:53:51 though i've heard of people using 1.5, android site states it won't build with versions under 1.6.0.12 Jul 27 20:54:32 so i'm really not sure why koolu is saying to use 1.5, honestly Jul 27 20:54:37 anyways, good luck Jul 27 20:54:42 http://source.android.com/download says use 1.5 Jul 27 20:54:53 thanks for the help :) Jul 27 20:55:24 do you build the koolu images yourself ? Jul 27 20:58:51 well Jul 27 20:59:05 i think i did build it once Jul 27 20:59:09 never again since Jul 27 21:01:08 ohh ok thanks Jul 27 21:19:44 haven't tried in a little while tho Jul 27 21:23:33 powderluv: if you do compile any of them can you plz share what you did and which branch you compiled? Jul 27 21:31:26 sure. i will. I have thus far tried to compile from "koolu-1.0" and master which didnt work. I am trying cupcake now Jul 27 21:33:43 try installer too Jul 27 21:33:50 i didn't know about that one till today :) Jul 27 21:35:03 the cupcake one seems to be the one updated though Jul 27 21:35:58 btw do you know how we can switch the branch of a repository after it has been checked out with repo -b ? Jul 27 21:36:35 i think i did another init, and then on the sync it was switching tags Jul 27 21:36:43 not sure if that's the recommended way :) Jul 27 21:37:41 huh.. good idea.. didnt want to download the whole repo again over a slow link .. let me try that Jul 27 21:37:52 Meomer: which branch did you build ? Jul 27 21:38:14 first koolu-1.0 and then cupcake, but that was before the 1.5 beta came out Jul 27 21:38:43 also, if you want to be sure about the switch maybe wait until someone else can confirm :) Jul 27 21:40:55 sure.. fwiw, it would be good to put up which is "stable" or "dev" branch on the wiki so we can figure out which branch to use :) Jul 27 21:41:16 i totally agree Jul 27 21:41:25 what branch is that then? Jul 27 21:42:53 here i also have bricode-dev branch, which seems interesting ;p Jul 27 21:43:54 i wish i had a stash of sd cards to switch os every now and then :) Jul 27 21:45:35 well I am trying "releases" right now since it seems to be tracking the koolu-beta-7 tag . Jul 27 21:45:36 Meomer: so did you succeed in building any of the branches? Jul 27 21:45:49 beta7 isn't that good :( Jul 27 21:45:54 it's not cupcake either Jul 27 21:46:15 ohh really Jul 27 21:46:26 i managed to install the cupcake one, yes Jul 27 21:46:30 yeah, it's 1.0 Jul 27 21:46:39 Meomer: oh, yeah? with a recent checkout? Jul 27 21:46:49 maybe i need koolu-release-1.0 then :) Jul 27 21:47:07 powderluv: well, what do you want? Jul 27 21:47:15 i think that was about two weeks ago Jul 27 21:47:26 the latest branch that builds cleanly Jul 27 21:47:29 ok, i'll try then.. Jul 27 21:47:37 powderluv: probably cupcake Jul 27 21:48:00 (or bricode-dev, though i don't think that's fir the public) Jul 27 21:48:04 it did run, although i had to insert the sim because without sim i couldn't get the screenlock out :) Jul 27 21:48:12 and i didn't test much back then Jul 27 21:48:13 eh Jul 27 21:48:14 ohh ok. i will start another repo sync on cupcake then :( Jul 27 23:11:32 Meomer: I was able to switch repo branches with a "repo init" **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 28 02:59:57 2009