**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 30 02:59:57 2009 Jul 30 05:28:13 hi serdar__ Jul 30 05:28:28 I've done the following: Jul 30 05:28:38 *moved the ril to ril_disabled Jul 30 05:28:48 s/ril/rild/g Jul 30 05:28:59 *compiled picocom-static Jul 30 05:29:35 *picocom -b 115200 /dev/s3c2410_serial1 Jul 30 05:29:40 but it seems frozen Jul 30 05:29:54 the phone is still up and I can open another adb console Jul 30 05:30:05 but the session with picocom seem frozen Jul 30 05:30:13 AT doesn't get any response Jul 30 12:40:34 hi serdar_ Jul 30 12:46:00 I've done the following: *moved the rild to rild_disabled *compiled picocom-static *picocom -b 115200 /dev/s3c2410_serial0 but I can't type AT commands Jul 30 12:46:42 did someone succeed in accessing to the serial port not with rild? Jul 30 12:53:06 hi .... First time connect .... what's new and hot for the moment? Jul 30 13:06:15 mmm Jul 30 13:06:22 with a sim card I've Jul 30 13:06:33 AT-Command Interpreter ready Jul 30 13:06:37 and then nothing Jul 30 13:08:34 Hi guys.... I've some time for the moment for this project which interrest me.... Let me know how i can help you all?$ Jul 30 13:22:59 Hi all Jul 30 13:23:04 I have build a new kernel Jul 30 13:25:20 panicking, hi is there something special that would prevent picocom from working when the ril is disabled? it's on a koolu 1.0 image Jul 30 13:25:31 without the proprietary applications Jul 30 13:26:24 what is picocom Jul 30 13:26:26 sorry Jul 30 13:26:30 and then I can answer Jul 30 13:26:41 something like minicom Jul 30 13:27:02 I did a picocom -b 115200 -f h /dev/s3c2410_serial0 Jul 30 13:27:06 then got a response Jul 30 13:27:12 then the modem went to sleep Jul 30 13:27:51 because at the beginning I had AT-Command Interpreter ready Jul 30 13:28:10 but after that evrything I type does not return anything...I only see what I type Jul 30 13:28:24 ok Jul 30 13:28:44 Ok if it use multiplexing Jul 30 13:28:52 you must open Jul 30 13:29:01 the /dev/pts/ device Jul 30 13:29:04 to talk to the modem Jul 30 13:29:12 so /dev/pts/1 for modem Jul 30 13:29:14 ok thanks a lot Jul 30 13:29:17 0 is the control channel Jul 30 13:29:22 but the ril must be on Jul 30 13:30:24 without ril how do I do that? Jul 30 13:37:11 you can use vchanneld Jul 30 13:37:17 that initialize the muxer Jul 30 13:37:29 and then don't start rild daemon Jul 30 13:37:44 ok thanks Jul 30 13:38:47 so vchanneld open Jul 30 13:38:50 the muxer Jul 30 13:38:55 and the you can connect Jul 30 13:38:58 to the modem Jul 30 13:41:01 ok thanks a lot Jul 30 13:41:14 I only have to find how to run vchanneld Jul 30 13:46:11 in the koolu version Jul 30 13:46:18 ? Jul 30 13:46:20 remove Jul 30 13:46:21 yes Jul 30 13:46:33 remove rild process Jul 30 13:46:36 in the init.rc Jul 30 13:47:03 copy vchanneld from one of my lasta images Jul 30 13:47:15 ok thanks a lot Jul 30 13:47:17 and put the init in the init.rc Jul 30 13:47:21 could vchanneld work on a g1? Jul 30 13:47:25 yes Jul 30 13:47:28 wow Jul 30 13:47:37 you must remove in the init.rc Jul 30 13:47:41 all rild reference Jul 30 13:47:44 and the Jul 30 13:47:46 then Jul 30 13:47:48 ok Jul 30 13:47:48 vchanneld Jul 30 13:47:51 will create Jul 30 13:47:54 in the pts Jul 30 13:47:56 directory Jul 30 13:47:58 0/1/2 Jul 30 13:48:01 ok Jul 30 13:48:02 1 is the modem Jul 30 13:48:06 2 is the gprs Jul 30 13:48:10 0 is the control Jul 30 13:48:14 don't touch the control Jul 30 13:49:49 ok thanks a lot Jul 30 13:50:34 hi Jul 30 13:50:41 serdar_, hi Jul 30 13:51:00 japanese exam was a desaster :( Jul 30 13:51:59 disaster Jul 30 14:28:27 re Jul 30 14:28:31 hay panicking Jul 30 14:28:42 jay Jul 30 14:28:44 hay Jul 30 14:33:47 w00t your upload increased Jul 30 14:33:54 should I make a mirror again? Jul 30 14:43:08 I have a different version of the kernel Jul 30 14:50:46 that is not an answer for my question Jul 30 14:51:57 panicking: kernel v17 works well with latest jffs2 ☺ Jul 30 14:52:26 soul9, did you tried the kernel from today too? Jul 30 14:52:35 oh, no Jul 30 14:53:03 hm Jul 30 14:53:11 I want my moko back :/ Jul 30 14:53:44 v17 is not good Jul 30 14:53:47 for the sensor Jul 30 14:53:49 try the last one Jul 30 14:54:03 oh, i disabled rotation Jul 30 14:54:08 it was waaaaaay too slow Jul 30 14:54:15 and since screen locking doesn't work... Jul 30 14:54:26 it doesn't even seem to auto-suspend :-/ Jul 30 14:54:31 panicking, do you have some docs that I can read to help programming? Jul 30 15:14:16 sorry I'm eating Jul 30 15:14:21 I give you some info Jul 30 15:14:23 later Jul 30 15:20:36 okay Jul 30 15:20:42 bon appetit Jul 30 15:20:56 or nee, that's france what is it in italian... Jul 30 15:35:13 Spain Jul 30 15:35:21 but I don't see the hour Jul 30 15:41:22 spain? I thought you are in pisa now Jul 30 17:41:14 12 days in pisa Jul 30 17:41:19 and now again in valencia Jul 30 17:42:26 I see Jul 30 17:42:31 FC Valencia :) Jul 30 17:54:47 hi, what are the changes for the v24 kernel? Jul 30 17:54:53 from v21 Jul 30 17:57:39 you are lucky, the author is still there Jul 30 17:58:11 panicking, btw. if you finished eating tell me the infos you got for me. Jul 30 17:58:58 the v21 kernel reboots my phone mid phone call often, lol Jul 30 17:59:24 eh Jul 30 17:59:43 use v14 if that works well, or v17, which works well, i know and someone else also Jul 30 17:59:51 er s/v14/v24 Jul 30 18:01:24 i'm dl'ing 24 now, i was just wondering what changes were in it Jul 30 18:05:40 * soul9 guessing it's just panicking patching the crap out of it ;) Jul 30 18:07:35 :p Jul 30 18:20:52 so, guise? Jul 30 18:21:07 i just compiled cupcake myself Jul 30 18:21:20 ohai@ Jul 30 18:21:22 now i have some images in out/target/freerunner/*.img Jul 30 18:21:25 what do i do? Jul 30 18:21:41 :D Jul 30 18:21:48 cold`work: ;) Jul 30 18:22:02 * soul9 installs tub thumper :D Jul 30 18:23:37 hmm, sound stops working after a few beats :( Jul 30 18:23:42 and it's awfully slow Jul 30 18:23:44 oh well Jul 30 18:27:45 it's easy Jul 30 18:27:51 you need to use the installer Jul 30 18:28:08 or you use them to flash it without the installer Jul 30 18:29:12 but which one? Jul 30 18:29:17 ah..installer. Jul 30 18:29:24 file is your friend Jul 30 18:29:30 file +img Jul 30 18:29:31 file?? Jul 30 18:29:34 ah Jul 30 18:29:34 file *img Jul 30 18:29:43 args Jul 30 18:29:46 file *.img Jul 30 18:29:47 so Jul 30 18:29:50 yeah Jul 30 18:29:55 so: Jul 30 18:30:02 i don't need ramdisk.img for example? Jul 30 18:30:04 one of them is a yffs2 or something Jul 30 18:30:10 or a jffs2 Jul 30 18:30:12 jffs2 Jul 30 18:30:13 yes Jul 30 18:30:17 nope Jul 30 18:30:22 kernel and jffs2 i know Jul 30 18:30:33 and the others i don't need? Jul 30 18:30:36 oki doc', thanks Jul 30 18:30:41 I guess it's system.img and kernel.img Jul 30 18:30:47 yep Jul 30 18:30:54 that's exactly right Jul 30 18:30:54 there are 4 Jul 30 18:31:00 yes Jul 30 18:31:16 one of them includes programs if you like Jul 30 18:31:28 see koolu images with and2nav Jul 30 18:31:46 ah Jul 30 18:31:56 they both must be simple tar files Jul 30 18:32:00 is there still something special needed to connect to wifi networks? Jul 30 18:32:00 so that would go in the flashcard data right Jul 30 18:32:07 no Jul 30 18:32:13 cold`work: connection works, but: Jul 30 18:32:28 no idea, I am not familar with koolu installer Jul 30 18:32:35 route by default is through usb0 for some reason (no real ip tools on android, so..) Jul 30 18:32:43 i see all the networks, i enter the WPA key, but it won't seem to connect Jul 30 18:32:55 so for wifi to work you need to get in with adb and disable usb0ifconfig usb0 down Jul 30 18:33:00 hm Jul 30 18:33:07 maybe that's a v24 issue then Jul 30 18:33:16 wifi works fine here. Jul 30 18:33:19 hm Jul 30 18:34:21 ah now it works Jul 30 18:34:28 i had to disable/re enable Jul 30 18:34:44 hmm Jul 30 18:34:45 strange Jul 30 18:35:00 can you look at the logcat to see what happend? Jul 30 18:44:49 any of you know of a jabber client for android? Jul 30 18:45:17 nope Jul 30 18:49:33 gah⋯the freerunner is just soooooooo slow :'( Jul 30 18:50:26 remove animation Jul 30 18:50:28 and sensor Jul 30 18:50:29 :) Jul 30 18:50:32 i did. Jul 30 18:50:37 still :( Jul 30 18:50:39 oops Jul 30 18:50:40 heh Jul 30 18:50:57 well, complaining will get me nowhere, i know that Jul 30 18:53:18 oops? Jul 30 18:53:32 well Jul 30 18:53:43 he exited right after i complained :D Jul 30 18:53:50 he must be a bit irritated :D Jul 30 19:03:13 ok Jul 30 19:03:18 wifi works on my FR! Jul 30 19:03:53 just got on irc:D Jul 30 19:09:33 :) Jul 30 19:09:46 * soul9 tries to figure out how to fix this irritating routing issue Jul 30 19:09:56 i actually had no problem Jul 30 19:10:05 long ago i set the route Jul 30 19:10:19 i have the same data dirs from march Jul 30 19:10:27 i'm sure there is junk now Jul 30 19:10:58 what route did ya set? Jul 30 19:11:01 gimme gimme Jul 30 19:11:12 ∫ it some setprop magic or whut? Jul 30 19:11:16 s/∫/is Jul 30 19:11:18 hey soul9 Jul 30 19:11:23 heya BluesLee Jul 30 19:11:29 actually Jul 30 19:11:30 did you tested the lates panicking image? Jul 30 19:11:33 i jsut set my dns server Jul 30 19:11:38 to an open dns Jul 30 19:11:39 BluesLee: ? the kernel? Jul 30 19:11:46 seems faster than the previous yeah Jul 30 19:11:49 BluesLee, i'm using it Jul 30 19:11:52 kernel+cupcake image Jul 30 19:11:53 cold`work: has wifi working on it too Jul 30 19:11:54 all seems good Jul 30 19:11:56 is it okay? Jul 30 19:12:00 wifi works great Jul 30 19:12:21 except, u have to enable/disable after the phone suspends Jul 30 19:12:35 oh, new cupcake image! Jul 30 19:12:41 i am trying qualee Jul 30 19:12:46 the new is v14 Jul 30 19:13:15 cold`work: is it still needed to edit init.rc and remount / rerad-write? Jul 30 19:13:20 or is that patch applied? Jul 30 19:14:28 ğh Jul 30 19:14:40 any of you finished downloading v14 and can share it somehow? Jul 30 19:14:43 it's applied Jul 30 19:14:47 great Jul 30 19:14:51 i literally made ZERO hacks,edits Jul 30 19:14:56 it all worked OOTB for me Jul 30 19:14:57 maybe making a torrent would be the best option.. Jul 30 19:15:01 sweet! Jul 30 19:15:24 lemme see, looks like panicking tried to fix network issues too Jul 30 19:15:30 because i can't connect to adb now Jul 30 19:15:42 but network works without ifconfig usb0 down Jul 30 19:16:00 yeah, it looks like he did something in the kernel Jul 30 19:16:16 same image with the new kernel when wifi is connected it becomes the default route Jul 30 19:16:18 awesomness Jul 30 19:16:30 did you get usb0 in your machine when plugging it in? Jul 30 19:16:38 well Jul 30 19:16:45 the moko responds to pings on usb0 Jul 30 19:16:48 but no adb running Jul 30 19:16:53 or not responding at least Jul 30 19:16:56 did you try adb? Jul 30 19:17:13 i don't get usb0, i think something if broken in my local kernel Jul 30 19:17:14 (maybe works with the new image though!) Jul 30 19:17:19 ah.. Jul 30 19:17:27 yeah, you need to enable usb gadget networking Jul 30 19:17:32 the modprobe usbnet Jul 30 19:17:36 i used to before i recompiled..my cdc-ether is broke Jul 30 19:17:43 i did, i built it in Jul 30 19:17:45 ah, weird.. Jul 30 19:17:53 oh well, i'll fix later :p Jul 30 19:18:17 looks like the new kernel is somewhat etter performance-wise too Jul 30 19:19:26 sweet Jul 30 19:19:59 well, i'm going to make a torrent out of the new kernel+image as soon as it finishes dling (eta 41m :() Jul 30 19:21:01 ahh Jul 30 19:21:55 i'm uplaodiong v14 to my site Jul 30 19:22:03 it will probbly be much faster Jul 30 19:22:16 ah, okay, sweet Jul 30 19:22:19 15 min to UL it Jul 30 19:22:26 i'll add you and me as webseed Jul 30 19:22:27 and 2 to dl for you Jul 30 19:22:37 okey doc', i'll stop dl then Jul 30 19:25:33 cold`work: where'll it be? Jul 30 19:26:07 http://cfdigital.com/android Jul 30 19:26:23 slow dsl here at work for UL'ing Jul 30 19:26:34 but faster than panicking's Jul 30 19:26:50 ok Jul 30 19:30:15 serdar_: btw jabiru is a nice xmpp client! Jul 30 19:30:27 (some troubles with unicode but eh) Jul 30 19:30:40 e.g. one of my accounts is ☺@9souldier.org Jul 30 19:30:45 it has troubles with that :D Jul 30 19:31:37 http://jabiru.mzet.net/ Jul 30 19:32:55 soul9, check it in 5 min, it willbe 32.1 MB Jul 30 19:33:02 afk Jul 30 19:33:38 k Jul 30 19:33:44 i'll wait 10mins Jul 30 19:33:45 thanks Jul 30 19:43:51 hi all Jul 30 19:44:22 heya Jul 30 19:46:55 hi soul9 Jul 30 19:51:27 * sanvy reboot :D bye Jul 30 19:51:59 ÷/ Jul 30 19:53:31 here is an other mirror of the images, and i'll make a torrent soon, which'll be at the same place: http://moko.soul9.org/android/ Jul 30 20:11:07 http://moko.soul9.org/android/android.torrent \☺/ Jul 30 20:24:18 lol soul9, call me coldfyre ;) Jul 30 21:10:10 eheh ok Jul 30 21:10:16 huh Jul 30 21:10:44 there Jul 30 21:11:04 serdar__: http://moko.soul9.org/android/ Jul 30 21:11:17 I've seen that before Jul 30 21:11:25 cold is useing apache oO" Jul 30 21:13:15 heh Jul 30 21:13:27 you are from russia right? Jul 30 21:14:18 cold`work or me? Jul 30 21:14:28 you Jul 30 21:14:47 nah, i'm from france/hungary Jul 30 21:15:00 the server is in us. tho Jul 30 21:15:27 i'm uploading all my old sotred images just for fun Jul 30 21:15:31 stored* Jul 30 21:16:11 if panicking would share with me some infos of android programming, I could be a help :/ Jul 30 21:16:39 er, the "Gallery" app is crashing here, can anyone confirm? Jul 30 21:17:21 I can'T Jul 30 21:17:26 I need my moko Jul 30 21:17:42 but this would be a bad idea, because I need to learn for operating systems exam.. Jul 30 21:18:58 gallery does not crash for me Jul 30 21:19:02 but the browser does Jul 30 21:20:02 o?! Jul 30 21:20:07 here it doesn't! Jul 30 21:20:10 that sucks :-/ Jul 30 21:20:15 cold`work: you have any images? Jul 30 21:21:49 no Jul 30 21:23:37 :) Jul 30 21:23:45 so download some and⋯ Jul 30 21:23:49 ⋯oh⋯ Jul 30 21:23:58 ⋯your browser isn't working... :( Jul 30 21:24:09 maybe it's your old settings that crash it? Jul 30 21:41:53 maybe Jul 30 21:41:54 not sure Jul 30 21:42:01 i'll be able to try later on tonight Jul 30 21:43:04 good luck Jul 30 21:47:16 hi is there a test case for the sound on the freerunner...with generic audio without the codecs Jul 30 21:50:12 for raw audio you can just use alsa no? Jul 30 21:50:24 ∩t file.raw > /dev/snd/whateverctl Jul 30 21:50:26 ? Jul 30 21:50:31 s/∩/ca Jul 30 21:57:38 hmm Jul 30 21:57:48 does an iphone have wlan from the beginning? Jul 30 21:58:58 :D Jul 30 21:59:12 what do you mean 'from the beginning'? Jul 30 22:00:25 2G for example Jul 30 22:00:32 yeah Jul 30 22:00:33 if it's no 3G Jul 30 22:00:44 http://www.cectunlocked.com/i9B-iPhone-Quad-Band-Dual-SIM-Card-Standby-Java-Phone-with-Bluetooth-Black-Elegant-Version.html Jul 30 22:00:50 i think even the first iphone had wifi, since they copied the freerunner's original ideas Jul 30 22:00:52 I don't get it. Jul 30 22:01:57 this is an iphone, it also has the bitten apple on the backside Jul 30 22:02:12 what is? Jul 30 22:03:03 oh! Jul 30 22:03:09 hahahah, an iphon clone! Jul 30 22:03:36 you can't clone iphone with the apple logo. Jul 30 22:03:59 I guess it'S the original manufacture in china which produces the iphones for apple Jul 30 22:04:31 what apple logo Jul 30 22:04:31 this has no apple logo Jul 30 22:04:48 on the backside Jul 30 22:04:51 oh yes it does Jul 30 22:05:01 well, everything is possible in china ;) Jul 30 22:05:09 corporate law doesn't really reach into china Jul 30 22:05:26 so chinese are nice enough to respect some laws to some extent, but that's it Jul 30 22:06:37 I think this is not much easy with apple or ms. Jul 30 22:07:35 what'll apple do? Jul 30 22:07:48 they have an army of fanbois, but they aren't armed or organised Jul 30 22:07:58 china has a few soldiers laying around.. Jul 30 22:08:19 they can cut their cooperation Jul 30 22:08:40 hmmm Jul 30 22:08:44 n they can't Jul 30 22:08:52 they depend on cheap chinese labour Jul 30 22:09:34 serdar_: you really need to get in sync with the world's politics... the USA *depends* on China, not China on the USA Jul 30 22:10:03 i agree Jul 30 22:10:17 trilions in debt to china speaks for itself⋯:D Jul 30 22:10:30 soul9: exactly Jul 30 22:10:50 politics? we are speaking about economy not policy Jul 30 22:10:58 it's the same Jul 30 22:10:58 s/policy/politics Jul 30 22:11:03 we in capitalism my friend Jul 30 22:11:10 if the chinese wakes up in a bad mood, they can bring the US economy down to its knees again... Jul 30 22:11:10 I'm not Jul 30 22:11:41 no? Jul 30 22:11:44 hmm Jul 30 22:11:47 serdar_: tomato tomato... Jul 30 22:11:53 okay, i'm just going to stop ☺ Jul 30 22:12:06 don't want to start in an dispute over this. Jul 30 22:12:21 m2, sound's like terry prattchet Jul 30 22:12:33 jjingo! Jul 30 22:12:54 i'd be surprised aswell, by the way, if a chinese constructor actually did release something with an apple logo, though they can easily get away with it. Jul 30 22:13:01 serdar_: well, today's *politics* are very prattchian in fact Jul 30 22:14:01 in german it said melone melone melone Jul 30 22:15:45 don't know, I never read that one in German... Alles Sense! and another one that I can't remember right now... Jul 30 22:16:29 I bought one in english called broomlaid Jul 30 22:16:37 or something like that Jul 30 22:16:51 bromeliad trilogy Jul 30 22:16:53 trucker, digger and wings Jul 30 22:17:29 are these sci-fi books? ☺ Jul 30 22:17:49 nop, fantasy Jul 30 22:17:50 NO! Jul 30 22:17:57 aww Jul 30 22:18:19 you don't know Prattchet, don't ya? Jul 30 22:18:51 although if you wink a bit and stand on your head, you might throw the bromeliad trilogy in the SciFi bag... Johnny and the bomb might be closer... Jul 30 22:21:00