**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 03 02:59:57 2009 Aug 03 03:36:19 serdar, soul9 does gps works in panicking's images? Aug 03 09:59:00 hey Aug 03 09:59:14 anybody use gps on freerunner? Aug 03 10:12:16 hi all Aug 03 10:21:18 hi Aug 03 10:27:32 hi solarw Aug 03 10:27:47 solarw, did you relase a cupcake version, some time ago? Aug 03 10:29:52 no Aug 03 10:30:02 i'm not releasing any images Aug 03 10:30:26 ok sorry :D Aug 03 10:30:42 http://moko.soul9.org/android Aug 03 10:30:43 I don't remember who relased that image... Aug 03 10:31:03 serdar, ^^ were you? :D Aug 03 10:31:13 thanks lot Aug 03 10:31:13 serdar, have you tested gps? Aug 03 10:32:25 nope Aug 03 10:32:43 but I've tested both releases Aug 03 10:35:59 i suppose gps not working Aug 03 10:36:33 no idea Aug 03 10:36:53 i looked for nmea output frpm gps dev filee Aug 03 10:37:02 it show no sattelites Aug 03 10:37:48 ºlayeah, gps works, i'm pretty sure it works on the koolu image i have up too Aug 03 10:38:14 arg Aug 03 10:38:17 solarw: ^ Aug 03 10:38:22 asd Aug 03 10:38:26 soul9, and does it works on paick kings android? Aug 03 10:38:42 serdar: yea i have logging in my irc client.. Aug 03 10:38:48 it works for me on openmoko distro Aug 03 10:38:55 solarw: yes, i'm positive it works on the latest panicking image Aug 03 10:39:10 soul9, hmm Aug 03 10:39:19 ? Aug 03 10:39:32 which app do you use? Aug 03 10:39:36 for gps Aug 03 10:39:39 hi soul9 Aug 03 10:39:51 i tried....er....ygpssatellite and andnav2 Aug 03 10:40:06 soul9, and both were working? Aug 03 10:40:11 soul9, you are useing gentoo right? Aug 03 10:41:19 solarw: yes. Aug 03 10:41:21 serdar: yes. Aug 03 10:41:22 :D Aug 03 10:41:33 soul9, which bash? Aug 03 10:41:39 soul9, in cupcake-14? Aug 03 10:41:39 4.x Aug 03 10:41:47 yes Aug 03 10:41:50 solarw: yes Aug 03 10:42:48 are you sure it's bash4? Aug 03 10:43:12 soul9, have you gps timer exp message in logcat? Aug 03 10:43:18 i has alot Aug 03 10:43:20 serdar: Aug 03 10:43:22 bash --version Aug 03 10:43:22 GNU bash, version 4.0.28(2)-release (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Aug 03 10:43:26 as sure as i can be ;) Aug 03 10:43:39 hm Aug 03 10:43:45 solarw: ah, i didn't check the logcat for gps.. Aug 03 10:43:49 than they changed the makefiles Aug 03 10:46:22 i'm not sure Aug 03 10:46:32 bash4 is bash3 compatible mostly Aug 03 10:47:21 solarw: and now i have the koolu version installed.. Aug 03 10:48:02 soul9, is koolu image as fast as panickings's? Aug 03 10:48:04 nah, i've tested koolu 1.0 and cupcake a while ago with bash4 and it doesn't work Aug 03 10:48:14 solarw: i think so.. Aug 03 10:48:23 soul9, is gprs wworking? Aug 03 10:48:48 serdar: what do you think? Aug 03 10:48:51 dunno yet.. Aug 03 10:49:38 soul9, I guess they changed their Makefiles to get it work with bash4 Aug 03 10:49:52 * soul9 would be surprised Aug 03 10:50:03 serdar: i didn't have problem with bash4 begfore Aug 03 10:50:05 before* Aug 03 10:50:13 and it's in gentoo ~x86 for a while Aug 03 10:51:25 april I guess, but iirc you got problems too and I told you to switch back to bash3 Aug 03 10:51:39 yeah Aug 03 10:51:47 same problem with bash3 tho Aug 03 10:51:52 so that was not the problem Aug 03 10:52:22 hm? nope, it worked well with bash3. Aug 03 10:52:48 I tried both bash4 didn't work, but switching back to bash3 solved everything Aug 03 10:52:50 ¬pe, i had the same error Aug 03 10:53:20 s/¬/no Aug 03 10:54:00 solarw: actually it is slower than panickings Aug 03 10:54:15 i'll try with panicking's kernel Aug 03 11:00:00 W T F?! Aug 03 11:00:19 i get kernel panic with panicking's kernel on koolu image Aug 03 11:00:22 * soul9 grmbls Aug 03 11:04:13 oh the kernel is panicking Aug 03 11:04:26 :D Aug 03 11:05:03 hahahah yeah Aug 03 11:05:11 panicking's kernel is panicking :-( Aug 03 11:05:35 reboot it Aug 03 11:05:48 is the led blinking? Aug 03 11:05:53 no, it says it can't find the init Aug 03 11:06:01 yes, the led is blinking like crazy Aug 03 11:06:02 oh Aug 03 11:06:04 kernel panic Aug 03 11:06:14 I got that too with panickings image Aug 03 11:06:19 a reboot helped Aug 03 11:06:28 but it was further Aug 03 11:06:36 º panicking's kernel with the koolu image? Aug 03 11:06:41 s/º/so Aug 03 11:07:18 no panickings kernel with panickings image Aug 03 11:07:26 and I've got the moko panicking Aug 03 11:07:46 hahaha Aug 03 11:08:13 yeah, i tried the koolu image with panicking's kernel, to see if the performance improvements were kernel improvements Aug 03 11:08:20 but it's f41l :( Aug 03 11:09:04 so reboot it again Aug 03 11:10:22 i had two kernel panics Aug 03 11:10:26 hm Aug 03 11:12:15 omfg poor koolu! Aug 03 11:12:29 their trac is full of jink tickets :( Aug 03 11:12:35 junk* Aug 03 11:12:39 :) Aug 03 11:12:42 hi soul9 Aug 03 11:12:43 thanks Aug 03 11:12:47 heya panicking Aug 03 11:12:49 I fix the gprs Aug 03 11:12:56 panicking: thanks for what? Aug 03 11:12:58 oh, nice Aug 03 11:13:02 hi panicking Aug 03 11:13:18 panicking: can j=you just export a patch so we can hel koolu? Aug 03 11:13:29 arg...:D Aug 03 11:13:34 helP Aug 03 11:13:48 panicking: can you just export a patch so we can help koolu? Aug 03 11:14:15 a repo diff after a make clean would work fine imo Aug 03 11:14:28 repo diff > /tmp/android.diff Aug 03 11:14:30 I will update the serdar repoistory Aug 03 11:14:34 btw. koolu updated 5 days ago Aug 03 11:14:48 panicking: ah, my mail? well, that was crap i did, it doesn't work at all :( Aug 03 11:15:00 adb is completely hosed if you use that patch :( Aug 03 11:15:08 ok Aug 03 11:15:11 I don't test Aug 03 11:15:13 now Aug 03 11:16:20 or if it's a lot of changes maybe repo diff |gzip > /tmp/android.diff.gz ... Aug 03 11:17:02 just that the koolu guys (quite rightfully) are quite bummed that you don't share your work... Aug 03 11:18:59 :-/ Aug 03 11:19:43 http://pastebin.com/m60d6223b Aug 03 11:19:57 I don't see, why these information are needed. Aug 03 11:20:03 except earth Aug 03 11:20:43 heh Aug 03 11:20:49 where is this? Aug 03 11:21:27 in sensors Aug 03 11:21:29 soul9, I don't have a business around android Aug 03 11:21:38 Yes you can drop it Aug 03 11:22:03 The best thing is to change the koolu manifest Aug 03 11:22:09 and use my substem Aug 03 11:22:22 it's because gpl Aug 03 11:22:34 if you change something you must share it. Aug 03 11:23:00 not in android Aug 03 11:23:06 maybe in the kernel Aug 03 11:23:24 android is not gpl Aug 03 11:23:31 it's an apache license Aug 03 11:23:31 hm Aug 03 11:24:27 panicking: that's fine, still, it would be cool if you shared the changes you made... ;) Aug 03 11:24:44 I will update the serdar repository Aug 03 11:24:45 maybe koolu can marge back stuff, or at least learn from your patches Aug 03 11:24:50 merge* Aug 03 11:28:42 Maybe, but the main difference Aug 03 11:28:51 is the radio interface layer Aug 03 11:28:51 part Aug 03 11:28:57 that works on my verson Aug 03 11:29:19 well, it seems you kernel/subsystem is much faster than the images i can build from koolu sources Aug 03 11:30:05 panicking: do you know why your kernel wouldn't work with koolu images? it panics because it can't find init Aug 03 11:30:15 (panickings kernel panics, surprising ;) Aug 03 11:35:54 Yes of course Aug 03 11:35:59 I don't have yaffs support Aug 03 11:36:14 ohh Aug 03 11:36:19 i see.. Aug 03 11:36:44 º you use a different image type than koolu? Aug 03 11:36:50 s/º/so Aug 03 11:36:55 :( Aug 03 11:37:39 maybe that's also the difference why it's faster? though i can see a lot of 'cpu pegged?' messages with koolu, which don't appear with yours Aug 03 11:38:14 If you see cpu pegged on koolu use mys images :D Aug 03 11:38:20 panicking: the koolu ril works fine. don't know about gprs of course.. Aug 03 11:38:32 panicking: but a lot of things are nicer on the koolu images :-/ Aug 03 11:38:57 panicking: like the long press on AUX button pops up a application switcher Aug 03 11:39:06 The same in my image Aug 03 11:39:07 :) Aug 03 11:39:19 i don't know what the difference is between yours and theirs, but there are quite big differences Aug 03 11:39:26 panicking: no. at least not with c14 Aug 03 11:39:29 v14* Aug 03 11:39:42 try it. long press on aux does nothing Aug 03 11:40:03 you can see on the video Aug 03 11:40:12 also, after suspending the koolu image the screen is locked Aug 03 11:40:39 panicking: yes, i saw, still, it doesn't do it on my phone. i don't know why, but it doesn't. Aug 03 11:41:26 same with useing without sim card. Aug 03 11:41:59 panicking: http://moko.soul9.org/android/ ← here is a mirror of your latest image, there is also the koolu image i built on the 31st Aug 03 11:50:20 ok Aug 03 11:50:33 soul9, I send a presentation about out group to koolu Aug 03 11:50:48 soul9, so they have the option to pay us for some services Aug 03 11:51:01 ah, i see. Aug 03 11:51:07 ok, well, good luck with that. Aug 03 11:51:37 but i'm not sure koolu makes so much money..anyways, i gotta go. Aug 03 11:54:29 soul9, but the koolu7 is a cupcake? Aug 03 11:54:48 yes Aug 03 11:54:56 koolu7? Aug 03 11:55:28 the cupcake-200907... is built from the koolu cupcake branch Aug 03 11:56:42 L O L on andappstore the call faker application is the third most popular Aug 03 11:56:42 that's hilarious! Aug 03 11:59:28 soul9, but How it works? Aug 03 11:59:44 is there something special I need to do to get android to recognise an SD card? Aug 03 11:59:44 it works well Aug 03 12:00:05 tested with both beta7 and the cupcake alpha Aug 03 12:00:12 Elleo: you probably need to remount / read-write and create /sdcard Aug 03 12:00:18 with each I can connect via adb and mount it manually to /sdcard Aug 03 12:00:29 panicking: it works well, but it's slow Aug 03 12:00:41 Its' no slow Aug 03 12:00:44 but very slow Aug 03 12:00:46 I think Aug 03 12:00:56 heh? Aug 03 12:01:06 it is, very slow :-/ Aug 03 12:01:09 soul9: it's mounted on /sdcard now as rw Aug 03 12:01:25 but no actual android apps recognise it Aug 03 12:02:18 so i don't know then sorry Aug 03 12:02:21 that should do it.. Aug 03 12:02:25 what application? Aug 03 12:03:19 any applications; settings shows all the SD card stuff blanked out, the browser complains that an sd card needs to be inserted to download stuff, the little status bar "No SD card" icon is showing in cupcake Aug 03 12:03:53 are you sure it's mounted? Aug 03 12:03:57 yes Aug 03 12:03:59 Elleo: what image are you using? Aug 03 12:04:13 mount shows: /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard vfat rw,fmask=0000,dmask=0000,allow_utime=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 Aug 03 12:04:23 at the moment I'm using koolu's cupcake 1.5 alpha1 Aug 03 12:04:31 I've also tried with koolu 1.0 beta7 Aug 03 12:04:37 eh, weird. Aug 03 12:04:45 dunno, works fine for me Aug 03 12:05:07 :/ Aug 03 12:05:07 try with http://moko.soul9.org/android/cupcake-20090731.jffs2 and http://moko.soul9.org/android/cupcake-kernel-20090731.img Aug 03 12:05:13 okay, thanks Aug 03 12:05:15 i know it works with these for sure Aug 03 12:05:28 if it doesn't you have a problem on your side... Aug 03 12:05:40 somethimes sdcards play difficult to get Aug 03 12:05:49 well I've tried 2 different sdcards Aug 03 12:05:56 and it's not like they're failing to mount or anything Aug 03 12:05:56 so i remove usd, wipe the contact a bit then put it back Aug 03 12:06:16 yeah, i don't get it then, try those images, if it doesn't work the problem is on your side though Aug 03 12:06:31 hm Aug 03 12:06:34 well, it's clearly a problem on the software side Aug 03 12:06:37 since the hardware works fine Aug 03 12:06:49 I will start to make a donut Aug 03 12:07:00 serdar_: no, i will start to make donut! Aug 03 12:07:01 :p Aug 03 12:07:11 serdar_: finally how do you connect to git.koolu.org? Aug 03 12:07:22 vpn Aug 03 12:07:37 I am useing the cpn server of the local university Aug 03 12:07:42 ok Aug 03 12:08:00 well good luck, i'm building donut as we speak too.. Aug 03 12:08:10 gotta go now, c ya Aug 03 12:08:35 panicking: thanks for your help, as always :) Aug 03 12:08:59 I guess I missed something Aug 03 12:08:59 but i don't really understand why not help koolu, they seem like a good bunch.. :D Aug 03 12:09:32 btw. panicking see your sensors from last time, there are many things that are not completed. Aug 03 12:09:37 serdar_: is the build starting at all for you? Aug 03 12:09:48 soul9, no idea Aug 03 12:09:51 i get: build/core/base_rules.mk:117: *** hardware/libhardware_legacy: MODULE.TARGET.SHARED_LIBRARIES.libhardware already defined by hardware/libhardware. Stop. Aug 03 12:09:53 ok Aug 03 12:09:58 syncing isn't finished Aug 03 12:10:00 looks like it's not building for now. Aug 03 12:11:11 change it to .libhardware_legacy and try again Aug 03 12:11:32 but I think we need to merge them Aug 03 12:11:45 libhardware_lagacy and libhardware Aug 03 12:12:17 er.. Aug 03 12:12:21 change what? Aug 03 12:12:45 –ter doesn't work on the softkeyboard in the terminal :D Aug 03 12:12:49 enter* Aug 03 12:13:54 gtg, c ya, bbl Aug 03 12:59:17 could someone tell me what /dev node their sdcard has? Aug 03 13:08:55 as far as I can tell the problem seems to be with sdmount; which seems to be what android uses rather than straight mount Aug 03 13:09:28 sdutil rather Aug 03 13:11:44 serdar_, exaclty what? Aug 03 13:16:57 aha Aug 03 13:17:04 vold.conf is wrong for my freerunner Aug 03 13:17:36 it has a commented out media_path line that is actually correct on my device Aug 03 13:17:44 as opposed to the one that's actually used in there at the moment Aug 03 13:18:48 ah, but /system/etc is read-only, I guess I need to edit it in the image prior to installation? Aug 03 13:40:39 aha, yes Aug 03 13:40:41 that worked :) Aug 03 14:27:02 gprs is ok now Aug 03 14:33:10 hm Aug 03 14:36:24 I connect to my vodafone Aug 03 14:36:27 service provider Aug 03 14:36:46 :D Aug 03 14:38:42 nice Aug 03 14:51:36 panicking, you got the login data? Aug 03 14:53:01 I have the connection Aug 03 15:01:55 * daemon not running. starting it now * Aug 03 15:01:56 * daemon started successfully * Aug 03 15:01:56 # ifconfig ppp0 Aug 03 15:01:56 ppp0: ip 83.225.225.235 mask 255.255.255.255 flags [up point-to-point running multicast] Aug 03 15:01:56 # Aug 03 15:11:17 I meant the logindata for the users git and michael Aug 03 15:25:29 yes I have the connection data Aug 03 16:16:03 re Aug 03 16:23:07 I am compileing now donut Aug 03 16:23:53 make: *** No rule to make target `out/host/linux-x86/framework/org.eclipse.jface_3.4.2.M20090107-0800.jar', needed by `out/host/common/obj/JAVA_LIBRARIES/sdkstats_intermediates/javalib.jar'. Stop. Aug 03 16:23:56 wtf oO"" Aug 03 19:30:40 hi Aug 03 19:31:12 soul9, donut is bad :/ Aug 03 19:37:06 hi cold`work Aug 03 19:37:14 hiya Aug 03 19:37:32 donut does not work :/ Aug 03 19:37:44 i ahve never tried dount Aug 03 19:37:45 w Aug 03 19:37:55 what is different about it? Aug 03 19:39:32 the different is, that is does not compile :O Aug 03 19:42:13 serdar__: Have you tried compiling donut direct from Google? Aug 03 19:42:25 no Aug 03 19:42:48 bin/repo init -u git://git.koolu.org/freerunner/platform/manifest.git -b donut Aug 03 19:44:28 I tried the Koolu donut and got about as far as you did. I'm not sure of the exact error, but it was probably the same as you saw. Aug 03 19:44:42 hm Aug 03 19:45:16 the battery temperature is being reported as -17.-1 degrees Aug 03 19:45:17 lool Aug 03 19:46:30 dot? Aug 03 19:46:42 .-1? Aug 03 19:47:53 "-17.-1" Aug 03 19:47:58 nice Aug 03 19:48:13 the .-1 is the best :) Aug 03 19:48:27 i knew my freerunner is cool, but damn.. Aug 03 19:48:38 pretty "cool" Aug 03 20:25:52 hi m2 Aug 03 20:26:55 jancona, did you tried reading the sensors sources? Aug 03 20:28:04 well, gprs dos work nicely with ATT Aug 03 20:28:14 AT&T? Aug 03 20:28:17 yes Aug 03 20:28:39 which image? Aug 03 20:28:54 v15 Aug 03 20:29:12 ah, a new version from michael? Aug 03 20:29:35 he told something, like he solved the gprs problem Aug 03 20:30:30 I don't get this sensors code Aug 03 20:30:39 static uint32_t sensors_get_list(struct sensors_module_t *module, Aug 03 20:30:40 struct sensor_t const** list) Aug 03 20:30:40 { Aug 03 20:30:40 *list = moko_sensor_list; Aug 03 20:30:40 return 1; Aug 03 20:30:40 } Aug 03 20:30:53 there is no reason for *module Aug 03 20:30:54 yes, he release it today Aug 03 20:31:18 running android irc.. i am still waiting to test MMS Aug 03 20:38:01 cold`work, I don't get the mp4 there Aug 03 20:38:17 I mean I don't understand it Aug 03 20:38:27 kid-slams-face-into-fire-hydrant.mp4 Aug 03 20:39:03 ha, that is new Aug 03 20:39:09 i don't know, i didn't see it Aug 03 20:39:26 me neigher Aug 03 20:39:40 but the name doesn't sound pretty nice Aug 03 20:40:24 anyway I am trying to understand the sensors, but it's not easy to understand Aug 03 20:40:39 and I also not know where it is used Aug 03 20:41:03 a UML diagram would be nice Aug 03 21:18:55 hi Aug 03 21:18:56 so Aug 03 21:18:58 mms WORKS Aug 03 21:21:07 hm Aug 03 21:21:22 panicking does not work without sim Aug 03 21:24:07 i ws able to recive a pic msg Aug 03 21:24:08 woooooooo Aug 03 21:24:35 it's simple to impress you? Aug 03 21:24:50 yes Aug 03 21:25:16 give me cheese and a slinky and i will be happy for hours Aug 03 21:25:37 soul9, i did not see the gallery app crash either, with pictures Aug 03 21:25:56 interesting Aug 03 21:28:40 I need an uml diagramm :( Aug 03 23:20:02 re Aug 03 23:20:19 m2, does a uml diagram exist somewhere? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 04 02:59:57 2009