**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 07 02:59:57 2009 Aug 07 07:56:31 hi all Aug 07 07:56:33 hi serdar__ :D Aug 07 07:56:46 soul9, did you try the new panicking? Aug 07 08:36:14 nope Aug 07 08:36:18 there is a new one, Aug 07 08:36:19 ? Aug 07 08:36:24 what is the difference? Aug 07 08:36:28 3 aug Aug 07 08:36:45 i also want to know, but it doesn't boot :| Aug 07 08:40:09 * soul9 DLs Aug 07 08:40:53 ? Aug 07 08:41:46 hi sanvy Aug 07 08:41:48 hi soul9 Aug 07 08:41:58 v15? Aug 07 08:42:00 heya Aug 07 08:42:08 v15 + the old kernel v22? Aug 07 08:42:27 + 24? Aug 07 08:42:30 mm Aug 07 08:42:37 v24? Aug 07 08:42:44 v22, according to readme, it's bette Aug 07 08:43:34 ok Aug 07 08:43:56 sorry i have to go afk for 20' Aug 07 08:43:59 see u later Aug 07 08:45:14 the readme doesn't mention v22 or v24 Aug 07 08:45:48 I would prefer v24 Aug 07 08:46:12 oh Aug 07 08:46:20 serdar__: the git repo is up? Aug 07 08:46:25 is panicking using it? Aug 07 08:46:30 nope. Aug 07 08:46:52 http://android.koolu.org/pipermail/android-freerunner-koolu.org/2009-August/001200.html Aug 07 08:47:24 ok Aug 07 08:49:23 you triedhave you tried the sensors.gta02.so? Aug 07 08:49:43 ¬ Aug 07 08:49:54 i haven't even tried the image Aug 07 08:50:06 hmm Aug 07 08:50:38 ∠d i gotta go for a job interview, so i'll be trying it in a few hours at best.. Aug 07 08:50:42 I will try this sqlite3 patch to see if it works without a sim card Aug 07 10:08:04 hmm Aug 07 10:12:06 i'm back Aug 07 10:13:27 ahoi Aug 07 10:13:35 serdar__, The best thing is to reformat the ext3 partition and use it with the uImage-v21.bin Aug 07 10:13:45 (from readme) Aug 07 10:14:15 http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/readme.txt Aug 07 10:18:45 yeah, that readme Aug 07 10:19:10 before "ENCOMING CALL" Aug 07 10:21:39 I guess that will not work with gprs Aug 07 10:22:28 oh... kk Aug 07 10:22:31 mm Aug 07 10:23:21 but I am not sure, because I didn't test it. Aug 07 10:23:47 oh ok Aug 07 10:26:33 sorry serdar__, but what does it means "reformat the ext3 partition", in panicking's readme?? Aug 07 10:27:15 sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb2 Aug 07 10:28:10 oh Aug 07 10:28:19 but panicking is flashable, not a tar Aug 07 10:29:00 yes Aug 07 10:29:34 so, why u said /dev/sdb2? Aug 07 10:29:41 sdb2 is the uSD in my pc Aug 07 10:29:51 same here Aug 07 10:30:18 ? it needs an ext3 uSD? Aug 07 10:31:14 ah you don't use an uSD for your neo? Aug 07 10:31:49 yes, i have it, but i didn't know that it needs it... maybe it's for this that it doesn't boot Aug 07 10:32:25 you need a vfat and ext3 Aug 07 10:32:56 mm Aug 07 10:33:06 why? snapshot is on flash... Aug 07 10:34:51 sorry, i can't understand :( Aug 07 10:38:05 :S i have lunch now Aug 07 10:38:08 see u later Aug 07 10:38:18 i'll come back as soon as possible Aug 07 10:38:34 bye :D Aug 07 10:55:22 hi solarw Aug 07 10:55:33 serdar__, hello Aug 07 10:55:39 aah Aug 07 10:55:52 so Aug 07 10:55:56 no __ anymore :) Aug 07 11:58:22 did you get lost connections with v15? Aug 07 12:33:07 i'm back Aug 07 12:33:08 :D Aug 07 12:33:11 hi solarw Aug 07 12:33:24 I tried the panicking Aug 07 12:34:28 did it panic? Aug 07 12:34:31 mm Aug 07 12:34:39 no, but it seems very unstable Aug 07 12:34:58 very often apps block and then work :\ Aug 07 12:41:00 hi jancona Aug 07 12:41:19 I guess nobody could compile donut Aug 07 12:41:51 hi jancona Aug 07 12:42:03 azz... it reboot suddently Aug 07 12:46:41 oh damn it's very unstable Aug 07 12:46:54 it rebooted again -.- Aug 07 12:52:43 solarw, which uImage did u used with snapshot? Aug 07 12:59:54 you are not useing v24 right? Aug 07 13:00:14 mm Aug 07 13:00:29 yes Aug 07 13:02:50 sanvy, v24 Aug 07 13:03:02 mm Aug 07 13:03:13 yes, i'm using v24 Aug 07 13:05:29 now it's installing andnav2 Aug 07 13:06:29 it seems to work Aug 07 13:06:52 oh Aug 07 13:07:15 v24 works quite stable Aug 07 13:07:17 (andnav) Aug 07 13:07:19 mm Aug 07 13:07:22 few times it cannot wake up Aug 07 13:07:34 solarw, but mine sometimes crashes and reboot suddently Aug 07 13:07:42 and it eat lot of battery Aug 07 13:07:45 and it's slowwwwww Aug 07 13:07:52 hm Aug 07 13:07:55 sanvy, i used v24 and v15 Aug 07 13:08:02 keyboard is very slow Aug 07 13:08:03 me too Aug 07 13:08:07 yes Aug 07 13:08:09 oh i didn't try kb Aug 07 13:08:19 it is slow Aug 07 13:08:23 also rotation Aug 07 13:08:24 cup? Aug 07 13:08:30 but I didn't try the lib Aug 07 13:08:42 where to put the lib Aug 07 13:08:46 ? Aug 07 13:09:35 solarw, my cupcake is not slow Aug 07 13:09:38 Serdar, lib? Aug 07 13:09:40 and start this sshd Aug 07 13:09:48 yes Aug 07 13:09:54 ah sshd, ok Aug 07 13:09:55 mm Aug 07 13:10:10 I'll try vodafone autoconfiguration for gprs :P Aug 07 13:10:26 i ask for htc magic's configuration Aug 07 13:10:28 it seems a good idea Aug 07 13:10:30 http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/sensors.gta02.so Aug 07 13:12:14 what does it do? Aug 07 13:13:09 i hope it does improve the sensors Aug 07 13:13:41 oh Aug 07 13:13:47 how do you install it? Aug 07 13:13:54 no idea Aug 07 13:14:15 put it via adb/ssh on the moko I think Aug 07 13:14:33 oh ok Aug 07 13:23:06 sanvy, what about sensors? Aug 07 13:23:13 screen rotate is too slow Aug 07 13:23:26 solarw, ? Aug 07 13:23:41 i haven't install them yet Aug 07 13:23:47 do you use sensors for screen orientation? Aug 07 13:23:58 Hi Serdar Aug 07 13:24:10 solarw, i try.. Aug 07 13:24:17 it is veeeeeeeeryyyyyy sloooooooow Aug 07 13:24:40 jancona, your reaction time is "ping timeout" :) Aug 07 13:25:04 Yes, I guess so :-) Aug 07 13:25:10 lol Aug 07 13:26:16 solarw, did u try sensors.so? Aug 07 13:31:38 umm Aug 07 13:31:43 calls doesn't working Aug 07 13:31:46 do you confirm? Aug 07 13:32:05 if i call android, it send me occupate Aug 07 13:32:12 occupated Aug 07 13:32:54 Serdar, how do sensors work, now? Aug 07 13:32:59 sanvy, not yet Aug 07 13:35:02 kk Aug 07 14:02:52 solarw, sanvy what does cat /proc/cpuinfo say? Aug 07 14:03:15 Processor : ARM920T rev 0 (v4l) Aug 07 14:03:31 Serdar, sorry, i shutted down my android, now i'm working on mer Aug 07 14:03:40 Serdar, is not correct Aug 07 14:03:44 we're armv4t Aug 07 14:03:57 I thought so Aug 07 14:06:48 mm Aug 07 14:06:51 according to adb Aug 07 14:06:54 android is emulated Aug 07 14:08:43 i restart the network Aug 07 14:09:19 done Aug 07 14:11:48 Serdar, Aug 07 14:12:01 http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,1702.0.html Aug 07 14:12:18 try the attachments of this topic Aug 07 14:12:22 there are a lot of apk Aug 07 14:12:27 that should work Aug 07 14:12:31 like youtube Aug 07 14:12:33 maps Aug 07 14:12:35 street Aug 07 14:12:37 office Aug 07 14:23:02 I am little worried about the cpu Aug 07 14:23:13 asd Aug 07 14:23:19 if it works... Aug 07 14:23:20 :D Aug 07 14:25:13 hmm but it's cpu/2 Aug 07 14:25:23 generally it's 400MHz Aug 07 14:26:03 freerunner has 400mhz Aug 07 14:26:06 cpu Aug 07 14:34:01 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-08-06 Aug 07 14:35:07 qtmoko is good Aug 07 14:35:11 slow but good Aug 07 14:35:17 slow like android :D Aug 07 14:35:57 hmm Aug 07 14:36:33 qte with qalee Aug 07 14:37:37 is good? Aug 07 14:37:56 no idea, does not exist Aug 07 14:40:25 lol Aug 07 14:46:57 hi BluesLee Aug 07 14:47:16 hi Aug 07 16:08:07 Serdar, news? :D Aug 07 16:22:45 hi solarw Aug 07 16:25:08 hi Aug 07 16:25:28 sanvy, i tested buletooth headphone Aug 07 16:25:36 it connected Aug 07 16:25:36 really? Aug 07 16:25:40 gooooooood Aug 07 16:25:40 but no sound( Aug 07 16:25:44 damn Aug 07 16:26:06 i can press answer button on headphone and android answer the call Aug 07 16:26:10 but no sound Aug 07 16:26:13 asd Aug 07 16:26:31 can u send files trough bt? Aug 07 16:26:58 sanvy, there is no such option i suppose Aug 07 16:27:07 android cupcake only support bt headphone Aug 07 16:29:16 :( Aug 07 16:31:16 and can u hear mp3? Aug 07 16:31:23 on android Aug 07 16:36:58 hmm news Aug 07 16:37:08 yeah, I am not hungry anymore Aug 07 16:37:14 sorry i have to go on holiday Aug 07 16:37:17 lol Aug 07 16:37:29 maybe i'll connect by moko Aug 07 16:37:36 holiday? what's that? Aug 07 16:37:40 anycase... thanks all, and have fun!! Aug 07 16:37:42 lol Serdar Aug 07 16:38:12 when school and work end, some strange people go on holiday Aug 07 16:38:14 :D Aug 07 16:38:24 no there the study begins Aug 07 16:38:30 ? Aug 07 16:38:35 students don't have holidays. Aug 07 16:38:46 correct, the pseudo-holidays :D Aug 07 16:38:57 I don't have holiday least 4 years Aug 07 16:39:10 asd Aug 07 16:39:15 sory i have to go Aug 07 16:39:17 didn't Aug 07 16:39:19 adios Aug 07 16:39:20 bye!!! Aug 07 16:39:44 solarw, I would mention that kind of problem Aug 07 16:39:56 Serdar, about bt? Aug 07 16:40:03 about sound Aug 07 16:40:15 sound over bt? Aug 07 16:40:16 do you have headphones? Aug 07 16:40:20 yes Aug 07 16:40:42 sound generally, have you tried a call about speaker? Aug 07 16:40:44 i take my friend's bt headphone Aug 07 16:40:53 not bt. Aug 07 16:40:59 no Aug 07 16:41:03 i tested bt only Aug 07 16:41:14 hmm, I need to test it somehow Aug 07 16:41:41 now I want to go swimming before learning for operating systems Aug 07 16:41:54 see you later. Aug 07 16:42:00 bye Aug 07 19:19:09 hell yeah trac.koolu.org and git.koolu.org works again :) Aug 07 21:02:06 hi panicking Aug 07 21:02:20 hi Aug 07 21:02:23 I send two patches Aug 07 21:02:27 on the mailing list Aug 07 21:02:31 for koolu user Aug 07 21:05:31 I see Aug 07 21:09:33 panicking, have you ever tried to compile donut? Aug 07 21:09:44 I failed :/ Aug 07 21:10:21 hi jancona Aug 07 21:11:00 hi serdar Aug 07 21:11:15 (faster this time) :-) Aug 07 21:11:42 jancona, I send some patches Aug 07 21:11:43 yes Aug 07 21:11:43 for call and gprs Aug 07 21:11:46 I think that it fixes some open ticket Aug 07 21:11:51 on koolu version Aug 07 21:12:36 panicking: Great! Glad to hear it. Aug 07 21:13:42 hm Aug 07 21:14:02 is there a way to fusion libhardware and libhardware_legacy? Aug 07 21:17:04 ah Aug 07 21:17:07 panicking: I see the patches on the mailing list. When I have a chance, I'll give them a try. Aug 07 21:17:17 I am building android-donut now Aug 07 21:18:41 hi m2 Aug 07 21:18:56 m2, 2 patches in the mailinglist Aug 07 21:19:25 make: *** No rule to make target `out/host/linux-x86/framework/commons-compress-1.0.jar', needed by `out/host/common/obj/JAVA_LIBRARIES/sdklib_intermediates/javalib.jar'. Stop. Aug 07 21:19:26 :'( Aug 07 21:22:09 serdar: Yes, I got by that point by merging the commit of commons-compress from the google tree, but then I hit a bunch more errors and gave up Aug 07 21:23:22 there was a problem with Android.mk there was libhardware but libhardeware_legacy was needed Aug 07 21:30:37 now, I must fix import contact and import sms Aug 07 21:30:46 and I have trouble on glamo part Aug 07 21:30:51 but this is other story Aug 07 21:38:36 what's with this sensors.gta02.so? Aug 07 21:38:40 where to go with? Aug 07 21:57:06 hmm fusion libhardware and libhardware_lagacy is hard :/ **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 08 02:59:57 2009