**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 21 02:59:56 2009 Sep 21 09:53:08 Hello everybody. Sep 21 09:53:31 I've been following the discussion on the mailinglist. Is this going to stay the irc channel of choice? Sep 21 09:54:11 I would say yes but that we should try to get to be the owner off it Sep 21 09:54:38 that sounds fair enough, but I understand koolu isn't really replying to emails? Sep 21 09:55:11 I am trying to let it be #and2moko. Sep 21 09:55:12 no we need to go to freenode and ask them what the procedure is I'm quite sure there should be such a procedure Sep 21 09:56:12 perhaps a change, such as proposed by serdar, is easiest (and then notifying the outside world of course) Sep 21 09:56:18 (I would guess something likte check old owner hasen't logged on for a long time check give people in the channel a chance to say what the think and the transfer ownage) Sep 21 09:56:41 even though I've been following the emails, I'm slightly confused what's being arranged at the moment Sep 21 09:56:45 I've found the google code pages Sep 21 09:56:51 which is good Sep 21 09:57:03 the openmoko wiki pages haven't been modified yet, I saw Sep 21 09:57:25 no we haven't changed the openmoko wiki yet Sep 21 09:57:56 please note that I don't mean that to be criticism :D Sep 21 09:57:57 some things could be changed now I think but I don't want to remove anything from there yet Sep 21 09:58:07 yeah Sep 21 09:58:38 mvzaanen, no problem =), we got the google code page up yesterday so everything is still very much work in progress! Sep 21 09:59:14 I wouldn't mind helping, but to be honest, I know that I'm already busy with many things Sep 21 09:59:25 I wouldn't mind testing new developments, for example Sep 21 09:59:29 aren't we all? =) Sep 21 09:59:47 most important, it would be great if android is workable Sep 21 09:59:50 :D Sep 21 09:59:59 there is a new release over at the google code page that you could test Sep 21 10:00:11 I saw that Sep 21 10:01:02 and now everybody can report bugs to the google code issue tracker which makes it much easier to test things Sep 21 10:01:13 yeah Sep 21 10:01:29 actually at the moment (I'm using Koolu's last release) almost everything works fine for me Sep 21 10:01:45 earphone sound is a bit low and the calendar doesn't work Sep 21 10:01:47 that's most of it Sep 21 10:02:01 oh, it would be great if syncing contacts would work Sep 21 10:02:13 at the moment, I think there's just this package that uploads names/numbers? Sep 21 10:03:11 yeah put that as a issue in the tracker! =) Sep 21 10:03:37 if you can't set they type I will do that when you have created the issu Sep 21 10:04:10 do you know if "real" android phones has any contact syncronizing? Sep 21 10:04:30 I don't (know) Sep 21 10:04:48 I'll first check the latest release Sep 21 10:06:00 I might be able to ask someone Sep 21 10:08:10 I am still for donut Sep 21 10:20:31 Hi all Sep 21 10:24:16 hello Sep 21 10:25:27 I want to know what is merged or not from my version Sep 21 10:25:41 Is there a list Sep 21 10:25:43 ? Sep 21 10:26:05 not that have seen Sep 21 10:26:11 *I Sep 21 10:26:31 And if it possible to add some reference to my website and blog because I will move my contribuition Sep 21 10:26:35 to the project Sep 21 10:27:31 I would be able to fix a wiki page, for fron page jancona has to do it (only owner of the project can do that) Sep 21 10:27:36 *front Sep 21 10:28:57 Ok Sep 21 10:29:41 I think you should be able to edit the wiki directly as you got contributor role Sep 21 10:31:10 hi michael_at_panic Sep 21 10:31:16 michael_at_panic, http://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner Sep 21 10:31:38 Yes I see Sep 21 10:31:59 I have a bug in the tracker Sep 21 10:32:05 that suspend during a call Sep 21 10:32:08 that was fixed Sep 21 10:32:12 and I sent a patches Sep 21 10:32:15 on the mailing list Sep 21 10:32:22 hm Sep 21 10:32:36 defect 3 Sep 21 10:33:02 when was it? Sep 21 10:34:04 but like I told on the mailing list. I would prefer to change to donut, because there are much efforts, which would be really nice. Sep 21 10:34:28 firstly to handle open programs Sep 21 10:34:54 Do we at all know how much work it would be to get donut working? Sep 21 10:41:31 http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-1.6.html#api-changes Sep 21 10:41:37 these are the api changes Sep 21 10:42:33 I don't know how much the changes of the smsmanager will effect Sep 21 10:48:49 michael_at_panic, is it ok if I assign that bug to you and mark it as Started? Sep 21 10:51:40 ok Sep 21 10:53:32 audunb, did it work after all yesterday? Sep 21 10:53:38 no.. Sep 21 10:53:52 have you tried eduroam yet? Sep 21 10:54:08 nope tomorrow probably Sep 21 10:54:18 ok :) Sep 21 10:54:36 have you tried to go back to a old koolu or panicking image to see if you can get that to work? Sep 21 10:54:51 I've just flashed panicking's v15 now.. Sep 21 10:55:05 doesn't seem to work either.. Sep 21 10:55:12 I'll try his kernel too Sep 21 10:55:59 isn't michael_at_panic useing yaffs2? Sep 21 10:56:34 freerunner-cupcake-snapshot-v15.jffs2: Linux jffs2 filesystem data little endian Sep 21 10:58:40 I don't use the yaffs2 support Sep 21 10:58:42 on my tree Sep 21 11:04:01 ooh, first android boot in 30 hours :D Sep 21 11:04:21 using michael's rootfs and kernel.. Sep 21 11:05:33 good then the phone should be ok now only to wounder why I dosen't work with the 0.1 build Sep 21 11:14:02 I get a lot of "CLEANMAKER node found at [memaddress] has totlen 0xc != normal 0x0" after flashing 0.1 system.img Sep 21 11:14:11 ooh kernel panick Sep 21 11:14:23 ouch Sep 21 11:14:41 failed to execute /sbin/init Sep 21 11:15:23 this is using michael's kernel with 0.1 rootfs, I don't know if that's even supposed to work Sep 21 11:15:24 could it be so bad that the flash in the phone is getting bad? Sep 21 11:15:37 it has crossed my mind Sep 21 11:15:53 did the all michael test work? Sep 21 11:16:05 (with michaels rootfs and kernel) Sep 21 11:16:18 from what I've found from google, the cleanmaker-errors has something to do with the jffs-image or something Sep 21 11:16:23 yeah, that worked Sep 21 11:20:23 http://armlinux.simtec.co.uk/faq.html#faqquestion_74 Sep 21 11:20:46 I don't understand what that implies, but maybe somebody else? Sep 21 11:22:10 I thought the big flash was nand but not sure Sep 21 11:23:06 btw, why can't we use marketplace? Sep 21 11:24:08 because there is no working market.apk for freerunner? Sep 21 11:24:31 (I don't know much about these things yet) Sep 21 11:24:45 but, would downloading an .apk from marketplace manually and then installing it work? Sep 21 11:25:02 maybe Sep 21 11:25:09 or does that require market.apk as well? Sep 21 11:25:18 can you download from marketplace without market.apk? Sep 21 11:27:26 ah, perhaps not Sep 21 12:58:51 Hi all Sep 21 12:58:57 I talk with al Sutton Sep 21 12:59:01 and if we want Sep 21 12:59:02 application Sep 21 12:59:05 we can include Sep 21 12:59:10 the appstore package Sep 21 12:59:15 in our distribuition Sep 21 13:05:47 okay I thought it woulden't work? Sep 21 13:07:36 http://andappstore.com/ Sep 21 13:07:59 I update the issue 3 with a patch Sep 21 13:08:02 ahh the inofficial app store Sep 21 13:08:17 michael_at_panic: what you mean? what is issue 3? Sep 21 13:08:24 and what does it matter with andappstore? Sep 21 13:08:56 http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=3 Sep 21 13:09:00 this is the issue 3 Sep 21 13:09:07 and nothing related to the appstore Sep 21 13:09:31 The appstore can be usefull to install application in our device Sep 21 13:10:22 you confused me too =) But it's all good Sep 21 13:11:30 hi jancona Sep 21 13:11:53 I have update the issue 3 with my distribuition fix Sep 21 13:16:08 Hi michael_at_panic. Sep 21 13:16:22 is koolu no longer maintaining their image? Sep 21 13:18:10 twotwenty, it looks like it Sep 21 13:18:17 michael_at_panic: I see the patch on the issue. Do you want commit rights at gitorious? Sep 21 13:18:28 twotwenty, so the community is trying to start up a more community oriented effort Sep 21 13:18:43 Yes if it is possible Sep 21 13:18:57 twotwenty, over at http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/ Sep 21 13:18:57 Can you give an email Sep 21 13:19:07 with how to use these things? Sep 21 13:19:44 jancona, the owner is m2 Sep 21 13:20:15 michael_at_panic: Yes, I'll send you an email. Sep 21 13:20:33 ok Sep 21 13:20:43 I'm working to have all on the newest kernel Sep 21 13:20:51 and work on record issue Sep 21 13:20:54 on the freerunner Sep 21 13:20:59 serdar_: Oh, okay Sep 21 13:21:26 michael_at_panic: Sounds good. Sep 21 13:23:46 are we supposed to migrate to and2moko irc? there are not many peopel in there Sep 21 13:23:59 someone said something in mailing list Sep 21 13:25:08 I would like to stay here if we can get control of this channel Sep 21 13:25:28 I understand now Sep 21 13:25:47 who has control ? Sep 21 13:26:13 I don't know maybe m2 if he is not a freenode bot I really don't know =) Sep 21 13:28:27 I think m2 is human Sep 21 13:28:49 who would want ownership of this room Sep 21 13:29:15 I think there should be a group so we can change topic and things like that Sep 21 13:30:05 send me an email with the information and I can do it later today Sep 21 13:30:13 he responded to me Sep 21 13:30:32 he wants some info to hand over control of this room Sep 21 13:30:58 sounds good, should be people that got the nick registerd properly I haven't done that Sep 21 13:31:22 I have a properly registared nick but Im not very good with IRC Sep 21 13:32:03 jancona, michael_at_panic anyone of you also? Sep 21 13:32:51 marcelo.magallon@gmail.com Sep 21 13:33:11 that is the email address we need to send info to about getting the channel ownership Sep 21 13:36:40 michael_at_panic: but how can i apply the patch to my installed android on FR? Sep 21 13:38:39 larlin, you got that email Sep 21 13:38:58 larlin, im not sure what info marcelo is needing Sep 21 13:39:10 twotwenty, should be usernames Sep 21 13:41:13 larlin, who should be channel owner Sep 21 13:42:23 I don't know I could if I could regg my name but can't with this client if jancona or michael_at_panic answerd one of them could perheps? Sep 21 13:43:05 michael_at_panic isn't registered Sep 21 13:45:16 brb Sep 21 13:46:16 he's away, what do you think, that we switch silently to #and2moko :D Sep 21 13:46:35 lol Sep 21 13:48:03 larlin, are you registered now ? Sep 21 13:50:09 not sure =) Sep 21 13:50:32 it says I haven't sent password yet Sep 21 13:50:40 so I'm fighting with the bot =) Sep 21 13:50:47 lol Sep 21 13:51:14 help name Sep 21 13:54:19 nickserv is anoying hahaha Sep 21 13:55:57 /msg nickserv register

Sep 21 13:56:09 trying to do identify Sep 21 13:56:13 dosen't work Sep 21 13:56:26 /msg nickserv identfy Sep 21 13:56:32 identify Sep 21 13:57:12 larlin: /msg NickServ IDENTIFY ***************** Sep 21 13:57:12 * nickserv!irc.freenode.net NOTICE: Insufficient parameters for IDENTIFY. Sep 21 13:57:12 * nickserv!irc.freenode.net NOTICE: Syntax: IDENTIFY [nick] Sep 21 13:57:43 (tried with gicing username also sane result) Sep 21 13:58:19 larlin, have you registered the nick yet Sep 21 13:58:57 it is registerd Sep 21 13:59:09 but I try to make sure that I log in using it also =) Sep 21 13:59:29 using what client? Sep 21 13:59:40 irc<->jabber transport =) Sep 21 13:59:55 can someone invite me to and2moko ? Sep 21 14:00:11 /join #and2moko Sep 21 14:01:07 thanks twotwenty Sep 21 14:02:03 can someone explain me how to put the patch on FR (the patch published by michael_at_panic Sep 21 14:02:50 pbaxter, for that you need to rebuild the code and make a jffs2 image it's nothing explaind that easy Sep 21 14:03:45 ok larlin..so i'm not able to.. Sep 21 14:03:46 thx Sep 21 14:04:03 I didn't say you are not able to =) Sep 21 14:04:22 pbaxter, it requires downloading the source and building the code with the patch included Sep 21 14:04:53 pbaxter, if you cant do that you wait for a while til the next release Sep 21 14:05:27 i know twotwenty..just wanted to know if i must wait or if i can patch directly on my working FR androiod Sep 21 14:07:12 yay! Sep 21 14:07:16 now it worked Sep 21 14:13:21 is #and2moko going to be the official new irc channel? (before I miss heaps :)) Sep 21 14:14:01 mvzaanen, if I get ownership I can add a couple of more people then we can run this channel instead Sep 21 14:14:23 ok, I'll wait a bit Sep 21 14:16:01 larlin: so is this channel going to a complete close? Sep 21 14:16:15 apparently, perhaps not, pbaxter Sep 21 14:16:30 we're right in the middle of a major overtake :D Sep 21 14:16:37 pbaxter, the other way around try to keep this channel Sep 21 14:17:07 okkei Sep 21 14:17:12 so i'll stay tuned on both Sep 21 15:12:00 jancona, after you are back please join #and2moko we need to discuss things. Sep 21 15:13:19 Serdar, ever heard off private mess and what's up with all the secrecy? Sep 21 15:21:52 I don't know if it should be secret or not, that's the decision of jancona. Sep 21 16:26:37 hi all Sep 21 16:29:14 larlin: perhaps you should join #and2moko Sep 21 16:30:02 sure Sep 21 16:32:06 hi larlin Sep 21 16:32:14 hello Sep 21 16:32:14 hi audunb :P what about new relase? Sep 21 16:33:12 hi sanvy :) Sep 21 16:33:41 I haven't tried that hard today.. Sep 21 16:34:13 I managed to get panicking's v15 to work (like I used before), and SHR installed without any problems Sep 21 16:35:51 ok Sep 21 16:37:49 trying to combine panicking's uimage 24 with 0.1 rootfs (for debugging) made the kernel panic.. Sep 21 16:38:09 azz Sep 21 16:38:16 bad Sep 21 16:40:02 audunb, shr on uSD? Sep 21 16:40:25 no, flash through dfu Sep 21 16:40:53 oh ok... anycase... do you know what is fs partition for uSD? ext3 or ext2? Sep 21 16:41:38 I've tried both, ext3 seems to work best (or least badly :P) Sep 21 16:42:14 oh ok thanks Sep 21 16:42:20 they change wiki page... :@ Sep 21 16:44:30 ChanServ, op #and2moko Sep 21 16:44:47 huh? Sep 21 16:45:27 Serdar, I need a channel where ChanServ is else the transport wont allow me to send private mess =) Sep 21 16:45:50 huh? Sep 21 16:47:08 Serdar, I use a jabber<->irc-transport so the transport controls some parts of what I'm aloved to do =) Sep 21 16:47:08 hello Sep 21 16:47:44 it might sound that I am stupid but .. I do not have any ideea how to get the code from gitorious Sep 21 16:47:52 hmm that's bad I don't want ChanServ in the channel that's the part of freerunner policy afair Sep 21 16:47:54 do I ned to register ? Sep 21 16:48:51 therefore I am not op everytime, only if it is needed and after that I deop me Sep 21 16:49:02 so everybody is equal :) Sep 21 16:49:22 Serdar, now I don't understand? why can't chanServ be here it's a freenode bot? Sep 21 16:49:59 rteodor, from the top of gitorios page: Sep 21 16:50:00 it can be there, you can have autoop too. Sep 21 16:50:08 repo init -u git://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner/freerunner_platform_manifest.git -b cupcake Sep 21 16:50:35 Serdar, we can make it not autop and just be there so I can send commands? =) Sep 21 16:51:01 hmm yeah, is it possible to deop chanserv? :D Sep 21 16:51:03 Serdar, humm maybe I can add chanserv to my jabber rooster... Sep 21 16:57:27 thanks larlin, I am sync-ing now Sep 21 16:58:27 rteodor: I think there's a problem with the manifest. It may build the wrong version of the kernel. Sep 21 16:58:47 I may not be able to fix it until later Sep 21 16:59:28 so I am reading now about interrupts see ya Sep 21 17:00:22 Serdar: Good luck with that. Pretty soon we can have you hack the kernel, right? Sep 21 17:02:40 you can get a 1l bottle of Düsseldorfer Beer if I pass my exam well. Sep 21 17:02:45 thats ok, for now I am just trying to accommodate myself with the project ... and that it my take quite some time Sep 21 17:05:19 what just happend on the emai list? Sep 21 17:06:19 ? Sep 21 17:07:22 From Dami Olejar that had just started some work on logo and graphic: Sep 21 17:07:22 "This is the end of my collaboration with the community. Thank you kindly for your understanding." Sep 21 17:07:55 http://imgur.com/mSUjz.png Sep 21 17:08:25 I thought he had a good base idea there Sep 21 17:10:03 yes the second one is nice Sep 21 17:10:30 http://imgur.com/JmbiZ.png Sep 21 17:10:38 I love the right Sep 21 17:14:44 okay some thing pissed him off anyone seen something on some other list or some where else? Sep 21 17:14:47 I seem to have bricked my freerunner in an attempt to install android on it. Any suggestions on how to unbrick the phone so I can try again? Sep 21 17:15:12 lesouvage, in what way "brick"? Sep 21 17:16:00 can you get it into the nand-boot menu? Sep 21 17:16:13 larlin: no blinking lights, no booting no anything :-( Sep 21 17:16:38 have you tried taking the battery out and booting again= Sep 21 17:16:40 *? Sep 21 17:17:02 larling: yes. Sep 21 17:18:27 and holding aux before power dosen't give the normal menu? Sep 21 17:18:31 I did something stupid I'm afraid, I removed the battery while in nand-boot menu. I just wanted the micro sd card and didn't think about stopping the device in a normal way. Sep 21 17:18:51 wait one sec Sep 21 17:19:00 lesouvage: french? Sep 21 17:19:04 lesouvage: are you french? Sep 21 17:19:33 no, just a missspelled french translation of my Dutch family name. Sep 21 17:19:56 ah ok lesouvage Sep 21 17:20:03 lesouvage: what are you trying to do now? Sep 21 17:20:42 Can we switch on only one channel Sep 21 17:20:43 ? Sep 21 17:20:49 if you try to boot from nor (my fault before is nor) and plug usb into a computer do you get dfu-device? Sep 21 17:21:07 panicking, this is koolu's channel Sep 21 17:21:18 and traditional android channel :P Sep 21 17:21:41 pbaxter: I have googled but nothing usefull showed up. My first goal is to get life back into the device. And then install android on it. Sep 21 17:21:52 traditional android channel is #android Sep 21 17:22:27 #freerunner-android is a koolu channel and I think we are useing #and2moko Sep 21 17:22:41 I prefer the and2moko Sep 21 17:22:43 channel Sep 21 17:22:52 lol Sep 21 17:23:00 you are on and2moko Sep 21 17:23:19 But we can move all to that channel Sep 21 17:23:25 or not? Sep 21 17:23:56 larlin: there isn't any sigh of "life". I was hoping for some secret trick that get the phone running again. Sep 21 17:24:57 panicking, you cannot constrict all to change channel Sep 21 17:25:11 koolu still remains an android porting for freerunner -i think Sep 21 17:25:14 wait, pvt :P Sep 21 17:25:18 no flame on channel Sep 21 17:25:28 I am going. Sep 21 17:25:44 panicking: but what the difference between the two channels? Sep 21 17:25:44 ok panicking..i'm in both of them Sep 21 17:25:46 lesouvage: what's the problem with your device life? Sep 21 17:25:46 well there is a few things but if you don't get neither dfu util or the nor boot menu then we are getting into more tricky territory Sep 21 17:26:12 lesouvage: i think you have tried AUX + power, right? Sep 21 17:27:43 pbaxter: yes, and I checked the battery with my nokia E60 and it is charged completely. Sep 21 17:28:07 lesouvage, sounds bad, the only trick I know then is this: Sep 21 17:28:07 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Unbricking_the_Neo1973_(GTA01)_without_a_debugboard Sep 21 17:28:28 should be possible with a freerunner also but requires alot of tinkering Sep 21 17:28:31 larlin: there still seems to be hope, thanks. Sep 21 17:29:05 lesouvage: ok..i think larlin knows more than me Sep 21 17:31:50 larlin: I'm afraid this is far beyond my skills. I'm not a soldering guy. Sep 21 17:32:50 reading more on the wiki they say it shoulden't be possible to do what you seems to have done Sep 21 17:35:32 you have tried with booth firs aux and then power and first power and then aux? Sep 21 17:39:53 lesouvage, you have qi installed on it? Sep 21 17:40:11 larlin: :-) :-) Sep 21 17:40:38 I removed the micro sd card and tried again. I'm in NAND Sep 21 17:40:44 cool Sep 21 17:42:36 should the freerunner be plugged into power when installing android or will it do fine with a fll battery charge? (just very optimistic) Sep 21 17:43:04 should not be any problem to run on battery Sep 21 17:43:05 it is installing ;-) Sep 21 17:44:43 you reallt scared med there :') Sep 21 17:44:49 it is always kind of exciting to watch such an installation. I see Koolu on the screen in green round letters. Sep 21 17:45:12 ahh you tried the koolu release Sep 21 17:47:37 larlin: that seem to be a boot and go installation and I really like that. I have my freerunner for over a year but never used it because even the most basic features (like calling and sending an sms) weren't working . Sep 21 17:48:36 yeah we got a new release (koolu seems to have stopped with theirs) that is a community release that should also be a boot and go Sep 21 17:48:51 But this android really looks nice. Sep 21 17:49:00 yeah android is nice =) Sep 21 17:51:51 TordiS2008 Sep 21 17:54:53 sounds kind a sily, but how do get a keyboard on the screen? Sep 21 17:55:59 I'm connected ! Sep 21 17:56:26 you press in a textbox and the keyboard should popup Sep 21 17:56:42 larlin: it doesn't :-( Sep 21 17:56:49 humm which textbox? Sep 21 17:58:09 I need to make something to eat brb Sep 21 17:59:08 ihave to go Sep 21 17:59:08 buye Sep 21 17:59:10 bye* Sep 21 18:05:02 back Sep 21 18:07:24 lesouvage, you got input to work to any textbox? Sep 21 19:27:32 hi ! Sep 21 19:37:34 hello all Sep 21 19:41:02 OK which of you upset Damir?? Sep 21 19:42:58 Just joking - one mighty culture clash there, very unfortunate Sep 21 19:44:25 Aitch_, okay? do you know anything more? Sep 21 19:44:54 I have had some private emails with him. Sep 21 19:45:38 he took Adrian's email as mockery of his work Sep 21 19:45:48 I have my freerunner up and runing with android but the icons are really small and I can't find an option to adjust that to my old eyes. Is there sch an option? Sep 21 19:46:42 shame cause I really thought he had done great.... Sep 21 19:47:03 Aitch_, ouch without knowing Adrian I can swear that was not what he inteded... Sep 21 19:47:19 Aitch_, yeah they where great Sep 21 19:47:33 any chance you can explain the situation to him? Sep 21 19:47:52 lesouvage, humm icon size that could be thought Sep 21 19:48:10 larlin, no I read it as humour too. But that didn't translate to him Sep 21 19:48:43 larlin, I will keep trying with him but it won't be easy Sep 21 19:49:10 larlin, maybe if we could let him know we are interested in his work? Sep 21 19:49:55 yeah the two last emails on the list was intended that way by me and Niall Sep 21 19:50:37 Aitch_, first I want to thank you for keeping in tuch with him Sep 21 19:51:07 Aitch_, next, is there any good way we can show that we liked what he did? Sep 21 19:51:31 larlin, anyway did i see something about changing channels earlier? Sep 21 19:51:52 we are abit split between this and #and2moko right now Sep 21 19:52:26 is there something extra available on #and2moko? Sep 21 19:53:37 we don't got control over this channel right now (can't change topic and things like that) we got that control in and2moko Sep 21 19:53:58 I'm trying to get into control of this channel also so we will see how it plays out Sep 21 19:54:00 I have Koolu beta 7 on my freerunner, am I on the proper channel? Sep 21 19:54:21 this is the channel discussing Koolu yes Sep 21 19:54:59 with that said right now it seems that Koolu has stopped the development of the Koolu version so we as a community tries to continue on the work Sep 21 19:55:20 and the discussions relating to that is abit split right now Sep 21 19:57:16 When rebooting I got the message "application settings is not responding" with a "force close" option and "wait" option. Sep 21 19:58:14 that is that the application used to change settings has crasched Sep 21 19:58:38 I haven't used koolu beta 7 to much so can't say how common that is Sep 21 20:05:52 It doesn't seem to hurt really. The other issue I run into is that the micro sd card isn't recognized. Sep 21 20:06:12 It is FAT formatted. Sep 21 20:07:07 is it only one partition on it or 2? Sep 21 20:07:29 larlin: just 1 Sep 21 20:08:27 I had one brand new of 2 gb and on older one that has been in the phone all the time of 0,5 gb. I used the last one to install android. Sep 21 20:08:59 android uses 2 partition on the sdcard, the first is a fat one that is used for media files like music and such the other one is a ext2/3 that is used for settings on the phone Sep 21 20:09:30 here is a guide for how it should be: Sep 21 20:09:30 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_on_Freerunner#Preparing_the_SD_Card Sep 21 20:09:49 that can also explain why the setting application crasches Sep 21 20:12:40 larlin: thanks, I will go to my linux server to add the partitions. Sep 21 20:15:56 can someone give me a good asound.conf? Sep 21 20:31:25 I can't stick the micro sd into my computer. I have such a usb device that I can use to stick the micro sd card in. dmsg |grep sd doesn't show anything. What should I use to find the proper /dev/XXX ? Sep 21 20:32:06 and it has worked before? Sep 21 20:33:05 larnin: it works with my Macbook but I never used it on a Linux box. Sep 21 20:33:37 what Linux dist is it? Sep 21 20:33:53 larlin: Suse Sep 21 20:34:24 haven't used suse much but I would guess it would automount the usb device Sep 21 20:35:42