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Apr 27 11:19:24 <jeffers_[m]> well, I was surprised by an email from Robin
Apr 27 11:20:55 <jeffers_[m]> "we can ship you a gemini next week, but it'll have to be a US keyboard, not a UK keyboard"
Apr 27 11:21:01 <jeffers_[m]> Thanks, but no
Apr 27 11:21:53 <canny[m]1> that sounds a bit disappointing... is your order number particularly high, jeffers_ ?
Apr 27 11:22:08 <jeffers_[m]> My order number is 1290
Apr 27 11:23:27 <canny[m]1> wow..considerably lower than mine (29xx) - I should stop holding my breath that mine will arrive any time soon...
Apr 27 11:23:39 <varti[m]> does that mean that they have now spare Geminis? Maybe from cancelled orders, or they are meant for their online store?
Apr 27 11:24:23 <jeffers_[m]> Who knows!
Apr 27 11:25:13 <jeffers_[m]> It sounds like they didn't send enough UK keyboard units to HK
Apr 27 11:26:11 <jeffers_[m]> Because I'm in Japan
Apr 27 11:31:21 <canny[m]1> jeffers_: is yours a 4G and wifi UK model?  or just wifi?
Apr 27 11:31:34 <jeffers_[m]> 4G
Apr 27 11:33:18 * canny[m]1 's expectations are lowered....yet again!
Apr 27 11:33:23 <jeffers_[m]> To be honest I've mostly lost interest at this point. It's pretty clear that it'll be quite some time before Debian becomes decently usable or Sailfish 3 turns up. I'm probably just going to stick it in the cupboard for six months and get a used phone to tide me over.
Apr 27 11:34:02 <adam_b> jeffers_[m]: you could help make Debian usable?
Apr 27 11:35:23 <jeffers_[m]> When the device turns up
Apr 27 11:35:38 <adam_b> yea but better than sticking it in a cupboard
Apr 27 11:36:05 <jeffers_[m]> It'll be a testing cupboard
Apr 27 11:36:19 <adam_b> :)
Apr 27 12:12:53 <adam_b> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/27/gemini_camera_esim_software_updates/
Apr 27 12:18:20 <razumihin> I wish that I had the gemini to have the esim update on :P
Apr 27 12:19:55 <adam_b> least if you don't have a device yet you get the esim, first batchers wont (it seems from my reading of that)
Apr 27 13:31:35 <munchausen> Hi guys
Apr 27 13:32:15 <munchausen> Haven't checked in here in a while, but as it looks as though I may get my hands on a gemini quite soon, I was wondering if there's any new developments on linux support?
Apr 27 13:32:40 <leinir> munchausen: they released the linux flash tool yesterday :)
Apr 27 13:32:42 <munchausen> Also - can anyone tell me if the currently available debian image has 3D acceleration?
Apr 27 13:32:51 <munchausen> leinir thanks, I saw that
Apr 27 13:33:01 <leinir> Other than that, sorry, no idea
Apr 27 13:33:06 <munchausen> :(
Apr 27 13:33:19 <leinir> i expect others might, though ;)
Apr 27 13:36:05 <munchausen> I will check out NotKit's github
Apr 27 13:38:05 <adam_b> munchausen: Latest apt-get update will give you accelerated qt, and if you follow my suggested tweaks you'll also get a semi-sleep on close with a speak the time on the external button, still some niggles to work out with proper sleep and screen closing on the on button
Apr 27 13:38:58 <munchausen> adam_b thanks :)
Apr 27 13:39:10 <munchausen> adam_b I just found the gemian github account
Apr 27 13:39:15 <munchausen> Is there a wiki?
Apr 27 13:39:22 <munchausen> (for your tweaks)
Apr 27 13:39:49 <adam_b> its on the gemian wiki the page is DebianTP
Apr 27 13:40:41 <munchausen> Aha, got it thanks
Apr 27 13:41:37 <munchausen> How come acceleration is limited to Qt? Is it using xf86-video-hwcomposer?
Apr 27 13:42:01 <adam_b> the accel is not limited to it, just that it wasnt turned on in qt till recently
Apr 27 13:42:05 <munchausen> Also, is there networking yet? (wifi or 3g?)
Apr 27 13:42:08 <munchausen> Ah right OK
Apr 27 13:42:22 <adam_b> wifi is there
Apr 27 13:42:30 <munchausen> Awesome. Sounds like I arrived at a good time :)
Apr 27 13:43:17 <leinir> Got some very good people doing some very good work :D
Apr 27 13:44:07 <adam_b> leinir: you still going to be adding your writers tools to the gemian repo when you get your device?
Apr 27 13:45:23 <leinir> adam_b: well, i'm building an appimage for it, but there's most definitely going to be access to that, yes :)
Apr 27 13:47:13 <adam_b> if you can be arm twisted into debian packaging that would be cool
Apr 27 13:48:53 <leinir> debian packaging scares the living daylights out of me... i'm kind of an rpm person, i never quite got friendly with building debs...
Apr 27 13:49:24 <adam_b> well I'd never tried it till a few months ago so might be able to help
Apr 27 13:49:49 <leinir> i /think/ there's debian packaging info in the calligra gemini obs...
Apr 27 13:50:26 <adam_b> yea my packaing is mostly just find someone else who's packaged it already and nab that
Apr 27 13:50:38 <leinir> damn, no... that's the peruse one, not calligra gemini :/
Apr 27 13:51:00 <leinir> But yes, there's definitely info for it, Neon has Calligra Gemini packages, just not for arm
Apr 27 13:51:30 <adam_b> well the arm thing is mostly a matter of turning off test code that dosn't like qemu
Apr 27 13:53:56 <leinir> True :)
Apr 27 13:54:33 <leinir> Except for when you run into fun things like Vc and such ;)
Apr 27 14:02:45 <leinir> Handily, of course, calligra gemini already builds on arm, that much i do know - already have appimages handy if you want to give it a shot :)
Apr 27 14:03:44 <leinir> the 64bit ones don't work at the moment (need to look into fixing that again), but the 32bit one for calligra gemini, and both the 64 and 32 bit ones for peruse should work :) https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/leinir:/branches:/OBS:/AppImage:/Templates/AppImage.arm/
Apr 27 18:46:26 <echicken> order locked :D
Apr 27 18:46:35 <MonkeyofDoom> :ooo
Apr 27 18:47:23 <MonkeyofDoom> same!
Apr 27 18:49:44 <canny[m]1> Bah humbug - still on Order Placed!
Apr 27 19:22:56 <NeKit> leinir, do you know if Calligra Gemini runs on Netrunner for ARM64 Pinebook?
Apr 27 19:24:32 <NeKit> Debian has it packed both in stretch and buster, but probably version in stretch is already old (2.9.11)
Apr 27 19:25:47 <leinir> NeKit: afaik it doesn't run on wayland because of issues with the wayland platform plugin...
Apr 27 20:25:54 <devyl[m]> >.< still order placed...
Apr 27 20:44:28 <alius> 17XX here (4G) and all-in upgrade both order locked as well (U.S. destination)
Apr 27 21:45:44 <NeKit> https://rosenzweig.io/blog/a-moving-mesa-midgard-cube.html
Apr 27 21:46:46 <NeKit> open-source Mali Midgard driver seems to be progressing, that means hope for us
Apr 27 22:32:06 <Captain_Harlock[> Mine now shows locked. 16**
Apr 27 22:34:26 <akik> order placed, 22xx :(
Apr 28 00:22:18 <devyl[m]> still placed 17**
Apr 28 00:22:19 <devyl[m]> :(
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