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May 29 14:08:32 <depscribe> latest in a series of questions of which i should already know the answer:
May 29 14:09:17 <depscribe> is there a way, using keyboard alone, to select text in X applications in linux on the gemini?
May 29 14:10:44 <depscribe> i've become too attached to the mouse, dammit.
May 29 14:34:21 <VartiWork> couldn't find anything on the Gemian wiki... https://github.com/gemian/gemini-keyboard-apps/wiki/KeyboardMappings
May 29 14:38:00 <cos-> i don't think so
May 29 14:47:49 <depscribe> in dos or os/2 or something, there was arrow navigation with shift or ctrl or something, and i can't remember if there's a linux standard.
May 29 14:47:52 <depscribe> apparently not.
May 29 14:50:45 <cos-> you can move x cursor with keypad, but it's not possible with gemini
May 29 14:54:48 <depscribe> weird. normally, you'd get the cursor where tou want it, then [modifier key] and arrow along to move the cursor (text, not mouse)
May 29 14:55:06 <depscribe> and see the stuff get highlighted as you go along.
May 29 14:57:15 <depscribe> very useful on a small screen without a pointing device.
May 29 15:06:23 <depscribe> i'm thinking something similar to this: https://ehs.ucsc.edu/programs/ergo/documents/keyboard-shortcuts-selecting-text.pdf
May 29 15:08:20 <depscribe> better example: https://www.howtogeek.com/115664/42-text-editing-keyboard-shortcuts-that-work-almost-everywhere/
May 29 17:00:35 <depscribe> hmmm. have been playing around and at least some of the shift-arrow functions do work, at least in abiword.
May 29 17:39:54 <adam_b_> depscribe: there was a bug in the keyboard maps for the arrow keys, fn+ and shift+ were doing the same thing so shift selection was doing rather odd things
May 29 19:24:55 <depscribe> adam_b : all better now, no? or at least much better? i'm finding it kind of useful. should i try fn+arrow instead?
May 29 19:27:42 <adam_b_> try updating and let me know, its working as expected for me now, wasn't before the fix
May 29 20:11:15 <depscribe> do i need to delete any existing file and log out/in, or does it just overwrite whatever needs it?
May 29 20:13:01 <depscribe> shift+arrow seems to be doing as before -- selecting line or paragraph -- while fn+arrow does home-end.
May 29 20:13:03 <adam_b_> ahh good point, a setxkbmap on the command line should be enough to reload the config (probably a logout/in would do the trick too)
May 29 20:16:34 <depscribe> works a treat! thanks! there are some things that done right are faster from keyboard than mouse.
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