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Jun 28 03:57:00 <athidhep> i have the bluetooth service disabled and wifi turned off and the battery drains fast in sleep on debian, anyone else have this problem
Jun 28 04:57:49 <athidhep> it seems to go "verifiying.. wrong!" over and over again with the lid closed
Jun 28 07:35:13 <adam_b_> athidhep: what have you changed from the default config? (your the first I've heard of with this problem)
Jun 28 08:01:50 <Omegamoon> I've been doing some testing with mainline linux on the Gemini
Jun 28 08:03:52 <Omegamoon> it looks like the kernel is booting fully, and starting /init on the initramfs... but then output stops, and after a short while the device reboots
Jun 28 08:05:05 <adam_b_> the suggestion there was that the reboot is a watchdog timer that you need something to keep saying 'its ok' to or it decides that things have gone wrong and reboots
Jun 28 08:06:46 <adam_b_> But sounds like you've got your builds up to the state as on the LinuxMainlining page
Jun 28 08:06:49 <Omegamoon> in any case... I would expect to see some output on the serial console indicating any issues
Jun 28 08:08:24 <adam_b_> well apparently not?
Jun 28 08:09:26 <adam_b_> do you have a log of the output of the same kernel running on a known good device so you can see at what point the logs differ to see what the next thing would have been?
Jun 28 08:09:43 <rah> Omegamoon: awesome write up, thanks :-)
Jun 28 08:10:16 <Omegamoon> I think it is booting much further now... not so sure about the reason for the reboot
Jun 28 08:10:22 <Omegamoon> rah, thanks :)
Jun 28 08:12:08 <adam_b_> Omegamoon: sounds good then, well I'm just going on what NeKit said last time you mentioned the reboot after a delay, and that was the suggestion
Jun 28 08:13:25 <adam_b_> I suspect these watchdogs are not your nice fluffy tell you about it on the console ones but rather more get the job done ones?
Jun 28 08:15:21 <Omegamoon> it actually comes to the point where userspace is being started, so I'll try to get some output from there first...
Jun 28 08:16:26 <adam_b_> yea presumably something gets wedged, just need to find out what it is
Jun 28 08:17:02 <razumihin> ...so do i really need to flash the whole firmware if I want to update my rooted gemini.
Jun 28 08:17:20 <razumihin> I can't get the scatter file to be correct from the new tool
Jun 28 08:18:10 <adam_b_> razumihin: yea the new tool has an extra boot partition and a rename, you'd need to do some repartitioning first on the device
Jun 28 08:18:51 <razumihin> Okay... is it hard to recover data from titaniumbackup? Haven't ever needed...
Jun 28 08:19:09 <razumihin> I just wouldn't mind skipping the installation time right now.
Jun 28 08:21:35 <greguu> Omegmoon , what userspace are you testing with mainline ?
Jun 28 08:28:10 <razumihin> Also i just realized that as i have extended sd card as the saving space writing userdata would corrupt that too.
Jun 28 08:29:36 <razumihin> crap. Why couldn't they just release the correct image.
Jun 28 08:29:37 <Omegamoon> greguu, currently debian, just to make sure I'm using something that is known to work :)
Jun 28 08:30:31 <greguu> Omegemoon: sure, you coulr try just a simple busybox initramfs too.
Jun 28 08:30:43 <greguu> s/coulr/could
Jun 28 08:31:05 * greguu got to get the parts for the UART cable next months
Jun 28 09:04:35 <VartiWork> I has just received the SIM from a new network operator I have switched to, but I can't swap the SIMs since my opening tool is at home, oh well
Jun 28 09:04:57 <VartiWork> 6 euros/month for 30GB and unlimited calls/sms, not bad
Jun 28 09:15:34 <razumihin> Sounds reasonable.
Jun 28 09:16:04 <razumihin> I've understood that finland has one of the best pricing in the world and I think i have dual sim with unlimited everything for like 20eur/month.
Jun 28 09:19:05 <VartiWork> that's nice too
Jun 28 09:20:43 <VartiWork> the only thing I don't like about the new operator is that, when you reach the 30GB limit, you have to pay for any additional MB
Jun 28 09:21:16 <VartiWork> my previous operator didn't have that limit, it only slowed down the connection to 128 kbps when you reached the data limit
Jun 28 09:22:03 <VartiWork> I have noticed that you can set a data limit under Android, I'll try that
Jun 28 09:22:23 <VartiWork> and besides, I don't think I'll ever use more than 30GBs in a month, but you never know
Jun 28 09:23:23 <razumihin> 30GB is pretty much
Jun 28 09:23:46 <razumihin> I've got my home internet on 4G and i've actually made 1TB at least once :D
Jun 28 09:24:04 <VartiWork> wow
Jun 28 09:24:09 <razumihin> My operator must hate me.
Jun 28 09:24:31 <razumihin> Well I did upload backups over internet that time.
Jun 28 09:25:26 <VartiWork> well, if you use streaming services on it, those eat up a lot of GBs
Jun 28 09:25:46 <razumihin> Yeah, but you can stream quite a lot netflix for 30GB
Jun 28 09:26:05 <razumihin> And we don't watch stuff that much.
Jun 28 09:26:29 <razumihin> So really normally I think I've got something like 100-200GB per month on my home internet max.
Jun 28 09:26:37 <VartiWork> at home my kids basically only watch IPTV, either via Amazon Prime or Kodi
Jun 28 09:26:58 <razumihin> Yeah, but even if you watch for like 2 hours a day it's not actually that much data.
Jun 28 09:27:02 <VartiWork> but I must admit I have never checked how much data we use
Jun 28 09:27:06 <VartiWork> aha
Jun 28 09:27:18 <razumihin> Those streaming services have pretty good algorithms for compressing the data.
Jun 28 09:27:32 <razumihin> I think it's around 500MB/hour or something on netflix.
Jun 28 09:27:46 <razumihin> I use fullhd projector connected to mac for watching.
Jun 28 09:30:39 <razumihin> Maybe I'll try flashing the FOTA3 image and see if I can get that with root boot.
Jun 28 09:30:56 <razumihin> I just would not care to reinstall everything again
Jun 28 09:42:56 <razumihin> Ok, let's see if I brick the gemini :)
Jun 28 09:43:18 <razumihin> I put the FOTA3 image without updating the boot or userdata.
Jun 28 09:45:18 <razumihin> Well at least it got to the android.
Jun 28 09:45:25 <razumihin> Let's see if it also loads.
Jun 28 09:46:08 <razumihin> Whoa, it worked.
Jun 28 09:46:38 <razumihin> And it's still rooted
Jun 28 10:51:06 <Zevv> razumihin: so, recap, what did you do exactly?
Jun 28 10:51:34 <Zevv> flash fota3 with boot and userdata unchecked?
Jun 28 10:51:39 <razumihin> Yeah
Jun 28 10:52:00 <razumihin> I had rooted x27 image from old page flashed on my gemini
Jun 28 10:52:10 <Zevv> but now you got a bit of a mix and match system, with an old boot and new rest, right?
Jun 28 11:35:01 <razumihin> Yeah
Jun 28 11:35:01 <Zevv> I rooted mine by only updeting boot_patched, but now it refuses to do regular updates
Jun 28 11:35:01 <razumihin> You could try the same.
Jun 28 11:35:01 <Zevv> I will
Jun 28 11:35:01 <razumihin> As I think that if it boots it doesn't matter that the boot partition is the old one.
Jun 28 11:35:01 <razumihin> I did take titaniumbackup backup of the system
Jun 28 11:35:01 <razumihin> And moved it to the computer before the update.
Jun 28 11:35:01 <razumihin> But seems like I didn't need that.
Jun 28 11:35:01 <Zevv> currently installing titanium s well
Jun 28 11:35:01 <Zevv> I cant get titanium to boot to sd card, by the way
Jun 28 11:35:01 <Zevv> only to intera
Jun 28 11:35:01 <Zevv> l\
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Jun 28 11:37:35 <Zevv> I survived
Jun 28 11:38:45 <Zevv> My single reason for the update was to get rid of the app bar popping up all of the time :)
Jun 28 11:38:49 <Zevv> thanks for helping out razumihin
Jun 28 11:44:10 <razumihin> Great!
Jun 28 11:45:44 <Zevv> so, anyhing else new after updating from the march version?
Jun 28 11:46:43 <razumihin> I didn't have time to check yet.
Jun 28 11:46:52 <razumihin> Have to write some code now ;)
Jun 28 11:59:33 <Zevv> yeah such is life
Jun 28 11:59:54 <Zevv> same here, but I quit for the day, the weather is simply too nice
Jun 28 12:20:33 <razumihin> I'm telecommuting so I'm writing the code on my porch sofa :)
Jun 28 12:20:40 <razumihin> 29 degrees atm.
Jun 28 12:59:47 <Zevv> flashing your phone is not writing code, eh :)
Jun 28 13:01:22 <razumihin> ;)
Jun 28 13:01:32 <razumihin> Code was compiling!
Jun 28 13:22:23 <NeKit> <Omegamoon> it actually comes to the point where userspace is being started, so I'll try to get some output from there first... - do you have full logs for that?
Jun 28 13:28:21 <NeKit> what did you have to change to get it further?
Jun 28 16:22:09 <Captain_Harlock[> well, after trying the update, I now just get the TWRP menu at boot. yay
Jun 28 16:23:59 <nullr0ute> Captain_Harlock[: twrp overwrites your system partition if you let it make modifications to it. just reflash the system.img (and only the system.img) and you should be good to go
Jun 28 16:25:44 <Captain_Harlock[> I will give that a try, thanks.
Jun 28 16:50:01 <Captain_Harlock[> At the very least, I do have a backup, just not accessible at the moment.
Jun 28 19:37:58 <Captain_Harlock[> I tried restoring the system image, no change.
Jun 28 20:19:05 <nullr0ute> also flash back stock recovery
Jun 28 20:37:00 <Darkimmortal> can someone with a serial console see if there is any interesting output when the gemini hangs in suspend?
Jun 28 20:37:14 <Darkimmortal> echo "mem" > /sys/power/state or turn off all radios and anything else that might wakelock, unplug and close the lid
Jun 28 21:29:29 <fakefur> hi guys - is there a way to get rooted android on the wifi only model yet?
Jun 28 21:57:42 <fakefur> i flash all my phones with lineageos etc but i cannot for the life of me understand the process for getting rooted android on this
Jun 28 22:02:22 <Captain_Harlock[> nullr0ute: Thanks for the help, I didn't have a copy of the recovery, so it tool me longer, but It all works now. :)
Jun 28 23:04:28 <kiko88[m]> Howdy. Does anyone here have any idea what the shipping timeline is? I just placed my order through indiegogo today and it says it will be delivered by May 2018.... lol
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