**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 27 03:00:01 2018 Jul 27 04:29:24 comment on the train: "so, It's just a very wide flip phone?" Jul 27 06:44:40 :-) Jul 27 07:35:12 the debian lock screen has _really_ poor usability.. yesterday i thought the device has crashed as nothing happened when tapping display or pressing esc and force-rebooted it Jul 27 07:35:43 now i noticed that some ring appears when typing.. i guessed i need to type password and it unlocked Jul 27 07:35:59 nice puzzle Jul 27 08:13:52 is there a way to set a custom ringtone in android? some phones have "local ringtone" option but i can't find it on gemini.. Jul 27 08:27:51 Ow I forgot, but I had the same problem the first time I tried this Jul 27 08:28:12 I think I went the other way around, select the sound file in some app where I could choose to 'use this as ringtone' Jul 27 08:29:17 Zevv: Yeah, I think Astro File Manager can select an mp3 or other audio file and allow you to set it as a ringtone...have done on previous phones but haven't tried it on the Gemini yet... Jul 27 08:29:17 after 9 days my gemini still had 38% battery... running Android, doing nothing... but still, 9 days is pretty good Jul 27 08:29:55 omegamoon[m]: yeah, I'm pretty pleased, I usually get two full days of regular work out of the battery. Not much worse then my previous phone! Jul 27 08:38:11 there was a ringtone editor in f-droid (ringdroid) that did the trick.. but ridiculous that gemini's android has the feature disabled Jul 27 09:03:45 Well same goes with the encryption. Jul 27 09:04:15 Why the hell is it disabled when the sd-card will enrypt itself anyway. Jul 27 09:09:04 i wonder what's the motivation of having such sucky android setup.. all the force-installed apps etc. i guess they get it cheaper when it contains crapware. Jul 27 09:13:09 Yeah, might be. Jul 27 09:47:57 cos-, which apps are force-installed? Jul 27 09:48:45 (it's just that some apps that are in Gemini launcher panel need to be installed from Play Store and not preinstalled) Jul 27 09:48:50 lot of google apps for example. they can be disabled, but i've seen the "disabled" processes crashing so i don't trust they are really disabled Jul 27 09:50:06 I guess Google Apps are mandated by Google if device wants to support Google Services Jul 27 09:50:56 browser, calendar, chrome, drive, duo (no clue what is that), google play movies & tv, * music, etc.. Jul 27 09:51:09 youtube Jul 27 09:58:29 has anyone tried putting LineageOS on the Gemini without gapps? Jul 27 09:59:18 if there was a reliable image or two with that setup, it might please a lot of us who want to avoid all the google bits Jul 27 09:59:55 I've just disabled the ones that i don't use in the default android. Jul 27 10:00:37 That sounds like a messy compromise. A lot of google defaults would have AOSP counterparts on LineageOS. e.g. a "gallery" instead of Google Photos, and a calendar that works without a google account Jul 27 10:03:12 I think the main issue of LOS now is not working RIL (modem) Jul 27 10:04:54 Yeah, I need that. Jul 27 10:07:44 Good to know. I haven't put my SIM in my Gemini yet, but that still sounds important. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 28 02:59:59 2018