**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 27 03:00:02 2018 Nov 27 09:53:46 I'm thinking of making this into a service to monitor battery levels. e.g. starts with five full leds, then drops down as battery level decreases Nov 27 23:05:15 after flashing my Gemini with one of the multi-boot images, my display doesn't work. It seems it won't boot (at least not completely). I see nothing but black on the screen (which is lit), but I get Android haptic feedback when I type on the keyboard. Does anyone recognize this? Nov 27 23:05:58 a while after this state, it powers off Nov 27 23:08:52 should I try the FOTA firmware to get back to factory? does it come with its own scatterfile? Nov 27 23:13:13 pxc, theoretically this could happen due to lk from different revision Nov 27 23:13:17 do you have X27? Nov 27 23:14:02 TheKit: I ordered it after the IndieGoGo campaign was over and it finally arrived a few days ago, so I think so Nov 27 23:14:40 TheKit: lk is just short for Linux kernel? Nov 27 23:14:59 lk is little-kernel, the bootloader used by MediaTek Nov 27 23:15:34 ah, ok Nov 27 23:16:53 when downloading the image, did you select x27 version in partition tool? Nov 27 23:17:24 x27 showed up in the filename of the ZIP file I downloaded, but idr choosing x27 Nov 27 23:18:05 that is weird then, I would reflash stock to make sure it is not HW problem Nov 27 23:20:27 what's the proper way to do that? Nov 27 23:21:14 just use the Gemini_Android.txt file inside the FOTA5 zip? Nov 27 23:22:09 should I also format the EMMC flash and restore my NVRAM0 backup somehow? Nov 27 23:25:48 and is there any other trick to all this? like a right way to reboot after I see that green checkmark from the flashing software? Nov 27 23:27:38 TheKit: huh. my device is back. Nov 27 23:28:05 after reflashing or without? Nov 27 23:28:24 after reflashing. I used the txt file as I guessed above Nov 27 23:29:05 as for scatter, you were correct, yes, no special tricks Nov 27 23:30:03 now it's doing its first boot stuff, which takes a long time I guess Nov 27 23:30:57 ok yep, it's back to defaults Nov 27 23:31:14 I noticed I ran out of space on the disk I was using when extracting the default firmware to re-flash it Nov 27 23:31:25 maybe I didn't notice, but I failed to extract some files from the multiboot image before Nov 27 23:32:34 hey flokli Nov 27 23:44:07 TheKit: flashing the multiboot image again results in the same state. I'm wondering now if I just didn't give it long enough for first boot and the problem is just that the logo doesn't show during bootup or something Nov 27 23:48:56 logo should always show during the bootup Nov 27 23:49:07 if you mean Planet/Tux one Nov 27 23:49:15 hm. It definitely also seems to turn off after partially booting Android Nov 27 23:51:14 I see an MTP device pop up on the computer it's plugged into, too Nov 27 23:51:24 and the blue light is on by the caps lock key the whole time Nov 27 23:51:29 but nothing on display at all? Nov 27 23:51:43 right. It's glowing, but full of black pixels. Sometimes the brightness changes Nov 27 23:52:43 I've never seen the Tux logo at all, but I presume it shows if you successfully boot Debian Nov 27 23:55:55 no, it is shown by bootloader when dual-boot firmware is flashed Nov 27 23:56:23 oh, but it shows even when you're booting Android? Nov 27 23:56:43 yes, like normal boot picture, but with Tux added Nov 27 23:56:53 looks like my md5sums for gemini_x27_base.zip and debian_sailfishos.zip are correct Nov 27 23:57:55 panel/lcm driver fails, this could be if they added different panel in newer revision which dual boot firmware version of lk lacks support of, but I did not hear of this happening Nov 27 23:58:10 hey pxc Nov 27 23:58:24 flokli: did you ever get NixOS running on your Gemini? Just wondering :-) Nov 27 23:59:01 try to contact support about this, I will ask as well Nov 27 23:59:02 pxc: I lost interest, only used android so far Nov 27 23:59:52 TheKit: I have contacted them and will make sure to share the outcome here and somewhere more permanent. Thanks for also looking into it on my behalf Nov 28 00:00:20 flokli: how come? I'm having trouble getting the multiboot stuff to work but NixOS on the device still seems exciting to me Nov 28 00:02:47 for the room, since I'm here: how does your typing speed compare on the Gemini to on a normal keyboard, after a little practice? I'm used to ~80-120 WPM and I seem to get about half speed on the Gemini Nov 28 00:03:50 pxc: well, upstream kernel still is a mess Nov 28 00:04:03 pxc, do you mean NixOS as running on top of another distro or on its own? Nov 28 00:04:28 TheKit: I was thinking on its own, basically in place of Debian Nov 28 00:05:21 flokli: ah. I can probably find your trouble with it in some archive of this channel! Nov 28 00:07:21 not very easy, could be achieved by someone with packaging skills, but needs some work for sure due to situation with kernel/drivers and other hacks to make Linux setup usable on the device Nov 28 00:08:28 TheKit: I have packaging skills, or at least an adventurous spirit, for now. I wouldn't mind it on top of another distro but ideally it would manage everything except the kernel if need be Nov 28 00:09:10 I wonder if those tools for getting NixOS onto VPSes that don't support it (nixos-in-place?) would work Nov 28 00:09:27 or if after the conversion NixOS still expects to manage its own kernel and bootloader Nov 28 00:09:39 in a way that messes things up Nov 28 00:10:07 no, that should be fine, but you probably do not want to have a headless server on the device Nov 28 00:12:37 indeed I do not Nov 28 00:17:02 the issue is that there are no native drivers for 3D acceleration and other stuff, so we utilize Halium running Android parts in LXC container + libhybris to use Android ones Nov 28 00:17:23 oh, just like Sailfish Nov 28 00:17:53 pretty much Nov 28 00:17:56 TheKit: I take it you work on the Debian port, then? Nov 28 00:19:11 along with adam_b, yes Nov 28 00:20:15 very cool. I look forward to giving it a try once I can figure out what I'm doing wrong or otherwise running up against in the multiboot flashing process Nov 28 00:21:00 have you blogged about your efforts or otherwise documented them somewhere? I'd like to read about them Nov 28 00:22:51 check https://github.com/gemian/gemini-keyboard-apps/wiki for Linux on Gemini in general Nov 28 00:28:19 thanks Nov 28 00:53:01 TheKit: I've got to sign off for now. Thanks for your help and interest. Good luck with your work on Gemian! Nov 28 00:53:28 see you later **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Nov 28 03:00:01 2018