**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 27 02:59:56 2019 Feb 27 09:21:04 * greguu just bought sailfish x for the gemini.... Feb 27 09:27:42 30 euros, not that much, pity about the lack of the Android pps support Feb 27 09:27:49 pps = apps Feb 27 09:44:42 not much and I hope for future updates, the oreo for gemini still has not surfaced yet Feb 27 09:46:46 it seems the best OS to use for gemini Feb 27 09:48:04 and you can purchase and update using a VPN Feb 27 09:48:54 there seems to be not much difference between the community port and the sailfish x port Feb 27 09:49:46 but I need to try first Feb 27 09:53:46 * greguu just likes to settle on the partition layout first before flashing. Feb 27 09:54:41 * keithzg[m] would buy SailfishX for his Gemini if he could, alas! Although frankly KDE on Debian might be more useful. Feb 27 11:04:13 KDE is a tad "large" for the screen size Feb 27 11:06:29 KDE is a community that makes software Feb 27 11:06:52 One of those pieces of software is Plasma Mobile, which is designed for use on phone type devices :) Feb 27 11:08:00 (also, rebranding is hard, KDE hasn't been software for nearly a decade now, people still do that thing there, even inside the KDE community ;) ) Feb 27 11:09:55 aaah ok. Well that wasn't obvious Feb 27 11:11:48 there are rebrandings that are doomed to fail and you can see it from very beginning. KDE->plasma is one of those Feb 27 11:15:58 leinir: hi, long time no see Feb 27 11:16:30 Some of the internal ones worked pretty well, though... People still insist on calling Plasma Desktop KDE, but it's a long time since i've seen people refer to kdelibs in place of Frameworks (or specific frameworks) :) Feb 27 11:17:21 But also the visual branding has changed a bit recently, so it's not just Plasma on the splash screen, but Plasma made by KDE, that sort of stuff Feb 27 11:17:24 Ohai! :) Feb 27 11:23:38 I *was* actually specifically meaning Plasma Desktop! It's shockingly nice on the Gemini's touchscreen (far moreso than LXQt, and more native to a landscape orientation and keyboard usage than Android or SailfishOS). Feb 27 11:24:45 keithzg[m]: forcing a low dpi would help as well, i imagine - plenty of pixels on the gemini screen, certainly :) Feb 27 11:26:28 leinir: I seem to have lost my Gemini, distressingly, but I think I might indeed have set a fractional scaling factor. Mostly though I just use Chromium and, even moreso, Yakuake :D Feb 27 11:26:45 O.O yes, that is... not a good thing to have happen Feb 27 11:27:39 * keithzg[m] goes back to trying to sleep, hopes to find it absent-mindedly left on his desk at work tomorrow Feb 27 13:34:21 * devyl is now also running sailfishX on his gemini... Feb 27 13:34:38 imho its very betaish ^^ Feb 27 14:12:10 what would be nice is a interactive dynamic zoom feature that must work completely intuitively. like when menus automatically zoom in to factor 2 or 3 as long as you mouse-hover over them Feb 27 14:14:15 switch between 100% and 200% on tap of holding hand's finger against the case shell. Whatever. TZhere are a lot of ideas waiting to be found and turned into a PoC Feb 27 14:15:55 or twist device around Z axis (perpendicular to screen plane) a 10°. CCW for zoom out, CW for zoom in Feb 27 16:06:21 The Psion Revo had zoom in and out shortcut keyboard keys. Feb 27 21:08:18 devyl: thanks. any noticeable difference or improvements between the community port and sailfishX ? (apart from exchange support) Feb 27 21:08:44 what kernel is it using ? (3.18 I assume) Feb 27 22:15:11 * keithzg[m] can't find his Gemini at work either, uh oh . . . Feb 27 22:16:37 greguu: Over in #sailfishos I've certainly heard folks complain there's no real difference or improvements over the community port, other than of course SailfishX adds Android support (which, relevant to talking in this channel, I certainly have used on my Xperia SailfishX to install Riot.im since there are no fully functioning Matrix clients at the moment for SailfishOS unfortunately). Feb 27 22:26:08 keithzg[m], it doesn't add Android support on Gemini, unfortunately Feb 27 22:27:07 TheKit: ...wait, what? Really? That's bizarre to me, since that was the main point really of SailfishX on the Xperia versus the community ports. Feb 27 22:27:36 Guess I really don't have to be upset that they refuse to let me buy it for my Gemini, heh Feb 28 00:07:43 there are reports of battery drain it seems. I will wait a bit before flashing **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Feb 28 02:59:57 2019