**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 12 02:59:57 2019 Nov 12 09:57:08 TallTim is just demonstrating why you can't get a phone with a keyboard from Samsung or Apple or any of the big players. It isn't popular because you and me are the only ones that want one. I feel lucky that anybody is making a device like this in 2019. We are the entire audience for this kind of phone. When everybody that wants one has one Planet will close it's doors. Bet on it. Nov 12 13:27:59 I hear you, and I fixed my problem - Developer mode enabled, set minimum size there - 600 seems to move the android softbuttons to the bottom of the screen, which is how I had it on the Gemini Nov 12 13:28:18 Now they have to fix the keyboard backlight not coming on after reboot - even if you specify it to be on in preferences. Nov 12 13:28:22 One hurdle at a time Nov 12 13:28:42 and yes davedoom I do agree that we're the niche audience which is precisely why we're so demanding ;) Nov 12 13:29:39 And akik - drop it buddy, I'm not your enemy. But I will call out silly things that should have been tested for. Keyboard backlight persistence is one of them. Nov 12 19:41:22 folks, is someone on here a member of the oesf forum? i've signed up for a membership but a moderator hasn't approved my account yet. i'm hoping a member can contact a mod to do so. it's been well over a week. Nov 12 19:46:30 i signed up with the same alias that i use on irc, so i signed up as calcmandan Nov 12 19:46:57 any assistance would be appreciated. i wanted to email the mods but they said they don't respond to emails. Nov 12 20:06:18 I have an account on there. I'm gemini ;-) What exactly do you want me to do? Nov 12 20:43:33 calcmandan: there's a forum you need to post in if your registration is pending Nov 12 20:43:52 calcmandan: I've overlooked that, too, and asked for help here on irc, same as you ;) Nov 12 20:44:40 calcmandan: https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=26329 Nov 12 21:54:15 thanks TauPan Nov 12 21:57:12 TauPan: i did some cursory searching but didn't see the thread about validating. appreciate the handholding. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Nov 13 02:59:58 2019