**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 15 02:59:57 2020 Feb 15 03:22:52 man this thing is popular Feb 15 03:23:23 I can't hardly take it out without somebody asking me what it is Feb 15 03:23:40 people seem to think it looks ubeer-cools Feb 15 03:23:54 "professional", I've heard Feb 15 18:37:26 wake me up when I can actually use my Cosmo - still waiting on the damn imaging official announcement Feb 15 19:19:56 I'm still waiting for Gemini to actually work on Japanese network, so it might take forever for Cosmo too Feb 15 19:42:44 marex-cloud, have you tried to debug the differences between 7 and 8? Feb 15 19:43:39 if it is supposed to be modem firmware, does upgrading to 8 break it in Gemian as well? Feb 15 19:44:17 TheKit: no? I paid planetcom enough, they failed to deliver pretty much on all my expectations, so I gave up, it was a lot of wasted money Feb 15 19:44:48 I'm not gonna pay for device and then even invest my own time to fix it Feb 15 19:45:29 TheKit: besides, Android 8 is obsolete and has grave security bugs, so I'm not gonna use that device like that Feb 15 19:46:07 TheKit: I'd like to revisit the U-Boot port if I ever find time, but that's unlikely Feb 15 19:47:19 since hardware is mostly by Chinese ODM, I find it unrealistic they can investigate the issue without having actual network Feb 15 19:47:29 though I can understand your point Feb 15 19:48:15 does it affects all the operators? Feb 15 19:49:22 All the ones I tried Feb 15 19:50:09 TheKit: it's a standard 4G network, no surprises, if they got the modem certified and thus the phone certified, it must work Feb 15 19:50:57 Also, I never had issues in Japan with any other phone Feb 15 19:51:02 but if it is standard, why is it only Japanese networks that are broken then Feb 15 19:52:48 I didn't try every network in every country, so it's probably not ONLY Japan Feb 15 19:52:57 what I find weird though, they had meetings with backers in Japan. If it is that severe issue, didn't people complain? Feb 15 19:53:47 Wasn't that Android 7 time? Feb 15 19:54:06 also for Cosmo Feb 15 19:55:08 Maybe it's just NTT network? Feb 15 19:58:59 no idea here, unfortunately Feb 15 19:59:14 what would be interesting to confirm if it is on modem firmware level or somewhere upper Feb 15 20:01:13 TheKit: I usually don't have time or even capacity to debug my phone when I go there Feb 15 20:01:37 TheKit: and this is really planetcoms responsibility, not mine Feb 15 20:01:57 The phone I use now cost like a fifth and works much better Feb 15 20:03:21 yeah, but I don't see anything can be done here besides just complaining then Feb 15 20:05:10 marex-cloud: have you tried connecting with japanese people that have the gemini on that network? Feb 15 20:05:41 or any other network. they could know what's up Feb 15 20:07:10 TheKit: well, planetcom got the money, I got no functionality, the money making scheme worked (for them) Feb 15 20:08:02 akik: nope, I got another phone which just worked and was much cheaper Feb 15 20:08:03 you got all the other functionality than the 4g connection Feb 15 20:09:16 akik: which other functionality, when all I needed was a map and internet connection sharing for my laptop? Feb 15 20:10:51 Oh, the ability to run outdated Linux-like kernel patched to oblivion with patches which cannot be called anything but garbage? Feb 15 20:10:56 you wrote "I got no functionality" and that's exaggeration. i know how you feel but there's probably no one here to help Feb 15 20:11:41 Or the ability to have grave security bugs in the phone exploited ? Feb 15 20:12:14 Well, there seem to be a backdoor in the updater itself, so anyway ... Feb 15 20:12:58 akik: so there is functionality, except it's either completely useless or outright harmful Feb 15 20:21:56 i bought a silent circle blackphone 2 from china Feb 15 20:22:16 i received it and it was 100% legit looking product Feb 15 20:22:31 first firmware update bricked the cellular data Feb 15 20:22:58 i contacted silent circle about it and they asked for the imei and said it's somekind of grey market thing Feb 15 20:23:07 i.e. f**k you Feb 15 20:23:16 they intentionally bricked it Feb 15 20:23:59 Maybe it's the same with planetcom **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Feb 16 02:59:57 2020