**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 03 02:59:56 2020 Apr 03 08:51:59 Hi, where I can propose new layout design for Astro Slide? Apr 03 08:57:42 The current Finnish/Swedish layout has Ö key next to the L key. It is an issue because Ä key has to be written via FN button. Ä is much more common letter in both Finnish and Swedish. Apr 03 08:59:11 both ä and ö should have their own keys Apr 03 08:59:23 It would be better if Ä and Ö would be swapped. I know that many Gemini and Cosmo users are doing that using FinQwerty app Apr 03 08:59:32 i think i sent this message to planet in gemini phase Apr 03 08:59:39 FlyingAntero: that was already on Gemini and they didn't learn from their mistake. There's a android tool to swap it to Ä Apr 03 09:00:16 Yes, Ithink that the other Shift key could be sacrified for Ä. Apr 03 09:00:34 I don't mind it but it's annoying that the mistake hasn't been fixed and it requires special tool to be installed. Apr 03 09:01:11 Atleast Planet Computers could provide an extra button with Ä letter for Finnish and Swedish customers. Tuen Apr 03 09:01:46 Then Shift could be replaced by Ä and do the same on software level Apr 03 09:01:56 In german keyboard layout äöüß don't have their own keys either. I'm surprised that ö has its own key in the Finnish/Swedish layout. Apr 03 09:03:00 Does Planet Computers provide extra keys as spare parts? Apr 03 09:03:24 TauPand: i think Ö is much less common than Ä in all languages Apr 03 09:04:10 Not sure about ø in danish, but you're probably right ;) Apr 03 09:05:49 (Not sure if this chart is correct but it seems to confirm my suspicion that ø is more common than æ in danish.) Apr 03 09:06:24 jäätelö, yhtiö, lööppi, pörinä :) Apr 03 09:06:42 (But ä is indeed more common than ö in german, swedish, finnish, as you said.) Apr 03 09:06:56 akik: What does that mean? Apr 03 09:07:04 TauPand: finnish words with ö Apr 03 09:07:13 Also the endings: -ssä, -stä and so on Apr 03 09:07:16 there are countless Apr 03 09:07:42 Jäätelö = ice cream Apr 03 09:08:41 I have sent a mail to Planet Computers but have not received response yet Apr 03 09:09:15 Oh, I forgot to paste the actual url: http://letterfrequency.org/letter-frequency-by-language/ Apr 03 09:09:49 Here is my proposal: https://bbs.io-tech.fi/attachments/astro-slide-5g-finnish-swedish-layout-proposal-2-png.368117/ Apr 03 09:10:35 works for me Apr 03 09:11:26 If Planet Computers doesn't want to do that they could at least sell Ä key as a spare part Apr 03 09:11:57 FlyingAntero: Where's the question mark? Apr 03 09:12:06 Ah, on the o Apr 03 09:12:30 cos-: can you already change the right shift to ä ? Apr 03 09:13:15 The tool I installed just swaps Ö/Ä so I don't know. Apr 03 09:14:10 Yeah, you can remap whatever you want Apr 03 09:14:25 FlyingAntero: how? Apr 03 09:14:47 FinQwerty provides layouts that are made before hand by the developer Apr 03 09:15:01 There are apps that provide remapping by user Apr 03 09:15:21 could you be more specific? Apr 03 09:15:58 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.github.sds100.keymapper Apr 03 09:16:07 thanks Apr 03 09:17:02 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelper Apr 03 09:17:48 The latter one has also free demo Apr 03 09:18:27 Has anyone asked extra keys from Planet Computers? Apr 03 09:19:54 It is crazy that they have external camera kit but no extra keys Apr 03 09:22:17 It would be great if Planet Computers would provide redesigned layouts on stock (on hardware and software level) Apr 03 09:26:06 Please, sent email to Planet Computers so they might redesign layouts. It is better if more people request this. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 04 03:00:20 2020