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Dec 22 10:16:21 <ArcusBot[m]> <@varti:matrix.org> Hi, I have read the discussions here about the IRC channel, but I have found time to answers only now, sorry for the delay. Some history about the channel first: it was opened by greguu and me a couple of years ago. At the time, another Gemini IRC channel was already online which was handled by cos; we were unaware of it at the time of opening this new channel, later we agreed with him to use this
Dec 22 10:16:22 <ArcusBot[m]> channel.
Dec 22 10:16:28 <ArcusBot[m]> <@varti:matrix.org> The reason why freenode was chosen as a server was, AFAIK, because of its FOSS-friendly nature (although I'm not sure this still holds true nowadays) and also since there are already other channels related to OESF on it, namely #zaurus, #alarmz, #kexecboot and many others which are no longer active.
Dec 22 10:16:36 <ArcusBot[m]> <@varti:matrix.org> Seeing the issues with the bridging (I also don't like those longs nicks!), I agree it would be a good idea to switch to another IRC server, IRCnet would be fine for me too. I'll just ask greguu his thoughts about this idea.
Dec 22 10:16:43 <ArcusBot[m]> <@varti:matrix.org> The thing I'd like to keep is the livelog and the archived log, which are currently hosted by nslu2-linux.org. I'm afraid this service might only log channels hosted on freenode and not on other servers; if so it would be nice to find a logging service which supports IRCnet and/or other servers.
Dec 22 10:46:07 <ArcusBot[m]> <Sami Olmari> well... there exist few logging "services" for matrix too, should be possible through that, I've never done such myself, so can't say details, but I'd be amazed if all of them would be crap
Dec 22 10:46:46 <ArcusBot[m]> <Sami Olmari> I, too, liked FN in the past, today not that much... forexactly these reasons... :)
Dec 22 10:58:33 <ArcusBot[m]> <@varti:matrix.org> there might be other IRC logging services available... I'm now writing to greguu, asking him about the one on nslu2 we're currently using
Dec 22 11:00:51 <ArcusBot[m]> <@varti:matrix.org> on #zaurus we're using the one from rikers.org, though that could be limited to freenode as well
Dec 22 11:19:58 <ArcusBot[m]> <@varti:matrix.org> btw, but you might have already guessed it: the IRC #gemini-pda channel is purely community-driven, Planet is in no way involved with it... this makes decisions such as moving to a different IRC server or the choice of administrators much easier
Dec 22 11:33:51 <ArcusBot[m]> <Sami Olmari> I know Planet computers have nothing to do with this, but until now I did not have much of an clue "who does what"
Dec 22 11:35:18 <ArcusBot[m]> <Sami Olmari> (that's why I have made as much noise as I have)
Dec 22 19:09:20 <ArcusBot[m]> <@cos:hacklab.fi> Good news, the FN bridging issues might be caused by a problem in the IRC bridge, not freenode limits. There is hope that we don't need to change network.
Dec 22 19:11:11 <ArcusBot[m]> <Sami Olmari> cos: umm... they have deliberately stopped allowing multi-bridges by tech means... unless they've changing that back things will not change
Dec 22 19:11:59 <ArcusBot[m]> <@cos:hacklab.fi> check out discussion on #irc:matrix.org
Dec 22 19:13:06 <ArcusBot[m]> <Sami Olmari> IDK, one says other and next person another
Dec 22 19:15:45 <ArcusBot[m]> <Sami Olmari> I mean... I'm all in for better working FN.. should their actual represntative been less... sucky.. few weeks ago I could even care maybe some
Dec 22 19:21:43 <ArcusBot[m]> <Sami Olmari> Also, be past issue man made impose or actual tech error, this very comment says the rest of I need to know: "as I mentioned, the bridge is extremely close to the connection limit every minute of every day - there's a good chance it just can't connect at all."
Dec 22 19:27:03 <ArcusBot[m]> <Sami Olmari> limit that is, again, arbitarily decided and not because tech couldn't handle more
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