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Oct 26 10:20:46 <Sleep_Walker> good morning
Oct 26 10:27:26 <|miska|> good morning
Oct 26 10:35:33 <Sleep_Walker> I've got finally Lenny on my Treo :)
Oct 26 10:36:49 <|miska|> :-D
Oct 26 10:36:52 <Sleep_Walker> unfortunatelly I can't create outgoing connection from Treo now :/
Oct 26 10:37:02 <|miska|> :-(
Oct 26 10:37:21 <Sleep_Walker> so no installation of matchbox or whatever
Oct 26 11:54:47 <marex> Sleep_Walker, why dont you build a custom kernel ?
Oct 26 12:02:09 <Sleep_Walker> marex: I've got my kernel
Oct 26 12:02:17 <Sleep_Walker> it's probably some misconfiguration
Oct 26 12:02:26 <Sleep_Walker> I've got SSH connection to Treo
Oct 26 12:02:48 <Sleep_Walker> but I can't even ping PC from Treo which I run SSH from
Oct 26 12:03:03 <marex> check your firewall setting and routing table
Oct 26 12:03:13 <Sleep_Walker> routing table is OK
Oct 26 12:03:37 <Sleep_Walker> iptables aren't even modprobed into kernel
Oct 26 12:03:45 <Sleep_Walker> (ip_tables)
Oct 26 12:03:50 <marex> on host ?
Oct 26 12:04:30 <Sleep_Walker> on host is FW disabled
Oct 26 12:04:48 <Sleep_Walker> and it doesn't matter much
Oct 26 12:05:00 <Sleep_Walker> ping reply is on every interface enabled
Oct 26 12:16:17 <marex> check /etc/network/interfaces maybe ?
Oct 26 12:19:01 <Sleep_Walker> marex: I have SSH connection to Treo - interface is configured well
Oct 26 12:21:58 <marex> Sleep_Walker, you set routing there as well ... jeez
Oct 26 12:22:12 <marex> and as you should know, the routing needs to be set on both machines
Oct 26 12:22:26 <marex> also, see /etc/resolv.conf for DNS servers
Oct 26 12:23:42 <Sleep_Walker> marex: I know about that...
Oct 26 12:23:45 <Sleep_Walker> gimme a second
Oct 26 13:21:05 <Sleep_Walker> hmmm, I have the same problem on completely different rootfs and same kernel :/
Oct 26 13:44:47 <Sleep_Walker> hmmm, why I've got still loaded zaurus kernel module :(
Oct 26 16:23:13 <Sleep_Walker> hmmm, it looks like kernel misconfiguration :(
Oct 26 16:25:32 <Sleep_Walker> it works now
Oct 26 20:37:49 <army12bc> what's the best way to scan for an ip address
Oct 26 20:39:14 <marex> impressive ... I ever wanted to test this hotkey
Oct 26 21:12:48 * mwester notes to be careful what questions he asks on this channel! ;)
Oct 26 21:16:23 <marex> mwester, carefully read the topic and you should be fine
Oct 26 21:17:24 <mwester> yep -- world domination via Palm devices... :)
Oct 27 00:20:45 <Sleep_Walker> that debian is so confusing :b
Oct 27 00:40:40 <marex> it's BFUproof, yes
Oct 27 00:41:33 <Sleep_Walker> marex: well, I miss there init script for starting GPE
Oct 27 00:43:13 <marex> apt-get install gpe-login I guess ...
Oct 27 00:46:34 <Sleep_Walker> gpe-login installed
Oct 27 00:48:23 <marex> well apt-cache search gpe and install what you need
Oct 27 00:48:49 <marex> startup script would be probably handled by gpe-dm and will be in /etc/init.d/script
Oct 27 00:49:51 <Sleep_Walker> hmmm, same as usual
Oct 27 00:56:52 <Sleep_Walker> marex: there is noe gpe-dm package
Oct 27 00:57:09 <Sleep_Walker> ugly debian :b
Oct 27 00:57:28 <Sleep_Walker> even gentoo provides init scripts after compilation and installation :b
Oct 27 01:01:20 <marex> stupid Sleep_Walker :b
Oct 27 01:01:55 <marex> even BFU can start xserver from command line and use Xsession to kick in it's favourite desktop environment
Oct 27 01:02:55 <Sleep_Walker> marex: well, I can run whole my session from script or by hand, but that is not what I wan't :b
Oct 27 01:03:34 <marex> install some session manager then
Oct 27 01:03:41 <marex> apt-get install gdm
Oct 27 01:03:57 <marex> xdm, kdm ... whatever you like
Oct 27 01:05:58 <Sleep_Walker> gpe-login would be fine
Oct 27 01:07:11 <marex> check what's inside that package
Oct 27 01:07:59 <Sleep_Walker> I can run it, but it looks like it ends after login :b
Oct 27 01:10:04 <marex> /etc/X11/Xinit.d/99gpe-login
Oct 27 01:10:34 <marex> you need to start X by hand or install session manager
Oct 27 01:10:42 <marex> it's GPE's fault
Oct 27 01:11:09 <Sleep_Walker> stupid Debian :b
Oct 27 01:11:18 <Sleep_Walker> can't even fix GPE's fault like usual :b
Oct 27 01:11:20 <Sleep_Walker> thanks
Oct 27 01:11:50 <marex> s/can't/has no obligation to/
Oct 27 01:12:07 <marex> even an idiot can think this way, no problem
Oct 27 01:19:17 <Sleep_Walker> hmmmm screwed
Oct 27 01:19:37 <marex> you are? right, you finally realized that ... great
Oct 27 01:21:39 <Sleep_Walker> no, debian is
Oct 27 01:22:05 <Sleep_Walker> I hoped it can be solution, but it seems to be very experimental
Oct 27 01:23:53 <marex> you are either full of shit or can't read (C) 2008 Koen Kooi
Oct 27 01:26:19 <Sleep_Walker> marex: you're as helping as your distro, as rude as you're egoist, I'm not sure why you even bother to answer me if it is mainly insultion
Oct 27 01:26:49 <marex> I already answered your question
Oct 27 01:27:26 <Sleep_Walker> last sentence wasn't question :b
Oct 27 01:28:20 <marex> well I think there is no point in explaining anything further
Oct 27 01:28:43 <marex> try READING the above once more
Oct 27 01:29:05 <Sleep_Walker> I will
Oct 27 01:29:26 * Sleep_Walker reads
Oct 27 01:29:37 <marex> http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gpe - do you see stable noticed somewhere there ?
Oct 27 01:30:03 <marex> you can report a (fake) bug
Oct 27 01:37:04 <Sleep_Walker> :(
Oct 27 01:38:04 <Sleep_Walker> fopen: Permission denied
Oct 27 01:38:05 <Sleep_Walker> :E
Oct 27 01:49:00 <Sleep_Walker> finally - nice WindowMaker! :)
Oct 27 01:55:02 <marex> perfect ... so you did read it once again
Oct 27 01:56:04 <Sleep_Walker> nope
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