**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 04 02:59:57 2008
Nov 04 04:13:42 <CIA-27> ato cocoboot * reddc786de18a / (Changelog m68k/mach.c): Corrected TLB for Treo 700p and Centro.
Nov 04 04:13:43 <CIA-27> ato cocoboot * rfecc5ec3ae99 /m68k/mach.c: The GSM and CDMA Centros seem to have different Palm OS
Nov 04 04:14:55 <CIA-27> ato cocoboot * r3fecae3fe16d / (Changelog include/cocoboot.rcp): Version 0.5.3
Nov 04 14:57:22 <grindars> what cpu frequency used in PalmOS on TX, and why it hangs at frequences >= 416MHz?
Nov 04 14:58:15 <fdv_> 312
Nov 04 14:59:08 <grindars> using lower frequency can improve battery life?
Nov 04 14:59:42 <fdv_> processor takoy
Nov 04 15:00:58 <grindars> well, what can improve battery life in linux?
Nov 04 15:01:50 <fdv_> backlight
Nov 04 15:01:58 <fdv_> and wireless
Nov 04 15:02:40 <grindars> with backlight on minimum and bluetooth off, it working half of hour.
Nov 04 15:02:42 <Sleep_Walker> grindars: turning of
Nov 04 15:02:47 <Sleep_Walker> turning off
Nov 04 15:02:51 <fdv_> :))
Nov 04 15:03:42 <Sleep_Walker> switching IrDA off?
Nov 04 15:03:53 <grindars> it enabled by default?
Nov 04 15:04:07 <Sleep_Walker> using ondemand/conservative CPUfreq governors
Nov 04 15:04:10 <fdv_> no
Nov 04 15:04:15 * Sleep_Walker doesn't know TX
Nov 04 15:04:29 <Sleep_Walker> disabling USB power
Nov 04 15:04:35 <Sleep_Walker> disabling serial power
Nov 04 15:04:46 <Sleep_Walker> disabling amplifier power
Nov 04 15:04:54 <grindars> audio also muted
Nov 04 15:05:16 <Sleep_Walker> grindars: does it have some standalone GPIO for switching amplifier off?
Nov 04 15:05:19 <fdv_> :)
Nov 04 15:05:22 <grindars> i don't know
Nov 04 15:05:36 <Sleep_Walker> neither do I
Nov 04 15:05:59 <Sleep_Walker> powering off MMC on inactivity?
Nov 04 15:06:13 <Sleep_Walker> allow more dirty data :b
Nov 04 15:06:46 <Sleep_Walker> use powertop to find badly written application
Nov 04 15:07:03 <grindars> it's Qt Extended, i think :)
Nov 04 15:07:06 <Sleep_Walker> (which generates too much interrupts)
Nov 04 15:08:07 <grindars> also, APM seems to reporting battery charge incorrectly -- while PalmOS reporting 50%, it reporting 0
Nov 04 15:08:44 <Sleep_Walker> it shouldn't affect much
Nov 04 15:10:18 <Sleep_Walker> I have also 0 on Treo680
Nov 04 15:11:09 <grindars> when i using cpufreq (conservative governor), and frequency higher that 312 MHz are not commented in kernel source, it hangs on boot :(
Nov 04 15:12:26 <Sleep_Walker> have you tried it runtime?
Nov 04 15:12:43 <Sleep_Walker> to see what the problem can be...
Nov 04 15:12:50 <grindars> it also hangs when in module.
Nov 04 15:13:14 <Sleep_Walker> no oops or panic?
Nov 04 15:13:23 <grindars> no.
Nov 04 15:13:37 <grindars> just cpu becomes extremely heat
Nov 04 15:13:44 <Sleep_Walker> lets hope someone will fix that :b
Nov 04 15:15:38 <grindars> it can be caused by CPU voltage, lets look at table:
Nov 04 15:15:38 <grindars> 	//  kHz,   mV
Nov 04 15:15:38 <grindars> 	{104000,  900},
Nov 04 15:15:38 <grindars> 	{156000, 1050},
Nov 04 15:15:38 <grindars> 	{208000, 1100},
Nov 04 15:15:38 <grindars> 	{312000, 1250},
Nov 04 15:15:40 <grindars> 	{416000, 1350},
Nov 04 15:15:42 <grindars> 	{520000, 1450},
Nov 04 15:15:44 <grindars> 	{624000, 1550}
Nov 04 15:15:59 <Sleep_Walker> sorry to be gone
Nov 04 15:16:05 <Sleep_Walker> have I missed something? :b
Nov 04 15:16:16 <grindars> sent in private
Nov 04 15:16:42 <Sleep_Walker> checked in private
Nov 04 15:19:53 * Sleep_Walker have nothing more to say...
Nov 04 15:21:21 <grindars> i'm retrying now, maybe panic appear
Nov 04 15:22:17 <Sleep_Walker> keep it in a cold and dark place :b
Nov 04 15:22:32 <|miska|> :-D
Nov 04 15:23:07 <grindars> |miska|: qt are fully working
Nov 04 15:23:32 <|miska|> grindars: Congratz
Nov 04 15:27:49 <grindars> my cable seems to be broken.. sometimes it not connects and generating errors like usb 2-5: device not accepting address 43, error -62
Nov 04 15:33:42 <grindars> it says only PXA CPU frequency change support initialized, and hangs.
Nov 04 15:37:35 <grindars> strange, same with debug enabled
Nov 04 15:39:43 <grindars> well, with high frequences commented it working normally.
Nov 04 15:41:40 <grindars> on 104MHz picture on FB is unstable and jittering
Nov 04 15:44:21 <grindars> is this a price for battery life? :)
Nov 04 15:44:55 <|miska|> grindars: Maybe I can add some option option to Kconfig to prevent overclocking...
Nov 04 15:45:27 <grindars> are high frequences working on your device?
Nov 04 15:45:36 <|miska|> Yes
Nov 04 15:46:01 <grindars> overclocking is not good at all
Nov 04 15:46:26 <|miska|> I can use 6XX without problem
Nov 04 15:46:59 <Sleep_Walker> |miska|: you have some portable watercooling system? :)
Nov 04 15:47:48 <|miska|> Maybe I was just lucky, maybe it's because of all these modifications...
Nov 04 15:48:00 <grindars> it suspended, let's wait a hour and check a battery after
Nov 04 15:52:06 <grindars> /*
Nov 04 15:52:06 <grindars>  This formula is based on battery life of my battery 1100mAh. Original battery in Zire72 is Li-On 920mAh
Nov 04 15:52:06 <grindars>  V_batt = ADCSEL_BMON * 1,889 + 767,8 [mV]
Nov 04 15:52:06 <grindars> */
Nov 04 15:53:25 <grindars> (palm_battery.c)
Nov 04 15:54:41 <grindars> my battery has capacity of 820mAh
Nov 04 15:55:49 <grindars> and it has 3.8 V now
Nov 04 15:57:52 <grindars> also, strange message appears on boot from battery driver:
Nov 04 15:57:52 <grindars> palm_battery: cannot get capacity -> battery driver unregistered
Nov 04 15:57:52 <grindars> palm_battery: cannot get voltage -> battery driver unregistered
Nov 04 16:00:17 <grindars> possible reason of wrong reports can be improper battery voltage:
Nov 04 16:00:24 <grindars> #define PALMTX_BAT_MAX_VOLTAGE		4000	/* 4.00v current voltage at max charge as from ZLauncher */
Nov 04 16:00:24 <grindars> #define PALMTX_BAT_MIN_VOLTAGE		3500	/* 3.60v critical voltage as from FileZ */
Nov 04 16:17:46 <|miska|> grindars: Well, I didn't changed the comments, but values from these header should something I get by experimenting with my Palm - booting to Linux, getting battery status, rebooting to PalmOS ang getting it again...
Nov 04 16:18:20 <|miska|> It's not perfect but it should be really similar to the PalmOS battery meter
Nov 04 16:20:37 <fdv__> i think so
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Nov 05 02:23:52 * flyback is done now with politics
Nov 05 02:39:06 * flyback goes outside to blow up some lithium batteries and hopefully mame himself
Nov 05 02:56:29 * flyback is going outside to burn a bible also
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