**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 09 02:59:57 2008 Nov 09 03:07:36 flyback: ... Nov 09 03:09:35 ok, let's try tomorrow Nov 09 03:09:38 gn Nov 09 03:10:23 sorry Nov 09 03:10:30 I was trying to help someone fix their water pump Nov 09 03:10:31 hang on Nov 09 03:10:58 :( Nov 09 03:11:00 * flyback forgot Nov 09 03:11:16 http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~miska/testing/ Nov 09 03:13:00 :_( Nov 09 03:13:19 oh well see you tomarrow then Nov 09 06:56:29 * flyback goodnight Nov 09 09:11:20 gm Nov 09 09:13:01 gm Nov 09 09:13:42 Sleep_Walker: http://hackndev.com/node/230 Nov 09 09:13:42 <|miska|> gm Nov 09 09:13:46 reckon that's JTAG? Nov 09 09:15:57 * Sleep_Walker doesn't know much about JTAG Nov 09 09:16:39 but it looks interesting Nov 09 09:16:45 mm Nov 09 09:17:02 if it is JTAG it could be really handy for testing flash drivers Nov 09 09:17:38 good morning Nov 09 09:17:38 or debug bootloader Nov 09 09:17:41 although it'd be a real pain to solder to Nov 09 09:17:46 those pins are abolutely tiny Nov 09 09:17:55 Sleep_Walker: yep Nov 09 09:18:38 alegra: gm Nov 09 09:20:29 BobOfDoom: so you have found that some treos have soldered connector by default? Nov 09 09:21:57 http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/treo-68-guts-4-L.jpg Nov 09 09:22:06 black connector on the left Nov 09 09:22:14 partially covered by RF shield Nov 09 09:22:26 that's from the US FCC testing Nov 09 09:22:34 so probably no production ones have the connector Nov 09 09:22:42 but that's a pre-production model Nov 09 09:23:05 I see Nov 09 09:23:36 there's a sure way to find out Nov 09 09:23:45 bake a treo ;) Nov 09 09:24:26 not a chance on my side Nov 09 09:24:53 yeah, I don't particularly want to destroy one either Nov 09 09:25:07 if I find a broken mainboard on ebay maybe Nov 09 09:25:12 my wife thinks that I'm buying nice new stuff too fast Nov 09 09:25:28 haha Nov 09 09:25:37 yes my gf is the same Nov 09 09:25:49 gf != wife :b Nov 09 09:26:10 I tried hammering flat a wire and forcing it under the cpu Nov 09 09:26:11 wife is worse about such things :) Nov 09 09:26:22 but unfortunately all the wire I've tried is too fat Nov 09 09:26:34 I can't find anything thin enough Nov 09 09:26:48 the gap is really insanely small Nov 09 09:27:21 not a chance to get same connector as there was in pre-production models Nov 09 09:27:23 ? Nov 09 09:28:10 yeah, that's probably some standard connector you can buy from a parts store, but we still need to know the pinout Nov 09 09:28:24 and I've never tried soldering SMD stuff.. I suck basly enough with non-SMD stuff Nov 09 09:28:30 s/basly/badly/ Nov 09 09:28:50 I thought only for soldering Nov 09 09:31:39 oooh! Nov 09 09:31:52 likelyhood of being JTAG +50% Nov 09 09:32:04 :) Nov 09 09:32:27 just noticed TESTCLK and TDO are on the edge of the CPU Nov 09 09:32:43 so shoved some wire under and I got connectivity with one of the pins on that connector! Nov 09 09:33:14 BobOfDoom: have you checked and tested PWM changes I made? Nov 09 09:33:44 it's trivial, but I'd like to have test it at least on one other device before pushing to upstream Nov 09 09:34:37 nope, sorry, I'll do it tomorrow .. I've got some uni stuff due tomorrow which i need to work on now Nov 09 09:34:47 (JTAG connector is an evil distraction) Nov 09 09:34:57 hehe :) Nov 09 11:22:46 BobOfDoom: snua12 thinks that 0xa400_0000 can be right resume address for Treo680 :) Nov 09 11:50:03 BobOfDoom, I can probably do the trace for you ... btw see this http://marex.hackndev.com/handheld-hardware/ Nov 09 11:54:43 tx has that connector as well ... ok Nov 09 12:02:21 slapin, palmasoc is in alsa tree Nov 09 12:06:20 Hi all Nov 09 12:06:43 Right now I instaled testing package of gpe by miska for TX Nov 09 12:06:51 How should I log in? Nov 09 12:09:36 Sleep_Walker, looks like I will have to dive deep into kernel internals because of the pxa261b1 garbage Nov 09 12:10:23 anyone, pls? Nov 09 12:10:37 |miska|, ping Nov 09 12:21:16 <|miska|> pong Nov 09 12:21:36 <|miska|> vorkachev: Didn't it asked for creating new user? Nov 09 12:21:38 miska, pls let me know login and pass from gpe Nov 09 12:21:42 no Nov 09 12:21:51 it asked for login Nov 09 12:21:52 <|miska|> That strange, it asked me Nov 09 12:22:03 moreover I have no keyboard Nov 09 12:22:09 <|miska|> root has 'hackndev' as password Nov 09 12:23:04 cool but I can't enter it anyhow, I started to edit image in order to make user [A or something like that with simmilar password Nov 09 12:23:19 cause it's only what I can write from TX kayboard Nov 09 12:23:40 <|miska|> There was software keyboard Nov 09 12:23:48 * |miska| is going to check Nov 09 12:23:56 I've got terminal, not X Nov 09 12:24:01 so no kbd Nov 09 12:24:14 <|miska|> So you don't have GPE running? Nov 09 12:24:36 <|miska|> And what error does it say? Nov 09 12:24:36 The only unusual thing is that I loaded from 16Gb sdhc and that my dbcache is about 17Mb Nov 09 12:24:57 I'll reload it to print all what it shows me Nov 09 12:26:01 <|miska|> I'm going to try it Nov 09 12:26:08 txh Nov 09 12:26:15 thx* Nov 09 12:26:17 <|miska|> Maybe something broke since my last try Nov 09 12:26:31 the were a lot of linking errors Nov 09 12:26:37 as I remember Nov 09 12:28:17 oh now I see not so much, cause Angstrom splash shadowed all the terminal output Nov 09 12:28:48 see only error that mountpoint usb doesn't exist Nov 09 12:29:02 and that yes is unknown operand Nov 09 12:38:44 shit, vps doesn't support loop devices, seems I have to try your image on my wrt54gs router ;( Nov 09 12:40:43 <|miska|> if you'll wait several minutes, I'll upload smaller package with less changes to be broken and you can try that and if it will work, you'll see that you don't want to use GPE ;-) Nov 09 12:41:10 <|miska|> *chances Nov 09 12:43:39 shure I'll wait Nov 09 12:44:19 what about that images? http://auryn.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/oe/testing/gpe/images/palmtx/ Nov 09 12:44:31 they are rather fresh Nov 09 12:45:27 <|miska|> You can try them Nov 09 12:45:55 they are much smaller Nov 09 12:45:56 (( Nov 09 12:46:00 <|miska|> But they are basically nightbuilds Nov 09 12:47:02 <|miska|> Not exectly, but can be untested and broken too as testing suggests Nov 09 12:47:41 ok if so it suits me Nov 09 13:05:19 * |miska| just booted up his GPE, going to check which version it is Nov 09 13:05:24 <|vorkachev|> libgnome is configuring but one terrible thing is already fond: Siocssifadds Nov 09 13:06:46 should be something network related Nov 09 13:06:55 <|miska|> reuploading Nov 09 13:07:30 <|vorkachev|> I know, it hurts, I hoped to try wifi.. moreover image from link upstairs also failed to load display manager Nov 09 13:08:17 <|miska|> Uploading image I just tested Nov 09 13:08:26 <|vorkachev|> Miska, you may also update that linux boots even with sdhc cards Nov 09 13:08:28 Sleep_Walker: .. isn't that out of range though for 64mb RAM? Nov 09 13:09:06 <|miska|> |vorkachev|: Already mentioned on the site Nov 09 13:09:14 marex: TX has it as well? hmm.. looks like we're definitely onto something useful. :) Nov 09 13:10:05 BobOfDoom, yea ... and I have one desoldered pcb Nov 09 13:11:14 marex: you do? wow! awesome! Nov 09 13:13:52 yup, but TX has jtag on testpoints (I know some of them) Nov 09 13:14:06 aah Nov 09 13:14:11 interesting Nov 09 13:14:19 maybe it's on both testpoints and that connector though Nov 09 13:14:49 I noticed in the 680 a couple of testpoints linked to the connector Nov 09 13:15:03 I see ... that might be true Nov 09 13:15:17 but there's only one TP I found linked to it on the LD, but I didn't try too hard Nov 09 13:15:27 |miska|, may I get your TX any soon ? I just need to test a little something Nov 09 13:16:07 BobOfDoom, well LD needs usb chip finished first ... I have some trashdriver half-written, but it doesnt work any much Nov 09 13:17:07 marex: can you send me the TP you do know for TX? I got a TX the other day (with dead audio and LCD, but I replaced LCD with the one from my old LD) Nov 09 13:17:55 BobOfDoom, Im sure I gave paper copy to |miska| Nov 09 13:18:02 or ... maybe Im sure Nov 09 13:18:23 I probably dont have it here (on campus), but I may try looking for it later Nov 09 13:18:33 ok Nov 09 13:18:45 thanks Nov 09 13:18:57 <|vorkachev|> Friends I have to dead TX mb, for pinout check, may I help? Nov 09 13:19:35 <|vorkachev|> I meand not to, but two Nov 09 13:19:41 <|vorkachev|> meant* Nov 09 13:19:45 <|vorkachev|> sorry for english Nov 09 13:21:30 |vorkachev|: it sounds like marex already has one desoldered. thanks for the offer though. :) Nov 09 13:22:41 BobOfDoom, the pcb is here, but dunno where the pinout paper is :/ Nov 09 13:22:46 it might be back at home Nov 09 13:23:20 ah Nov 09 13:23:34 <|vorkachev|> veber mind, I just don't know what to do with them.. one lack RAM, and NAND, second lack SD slot and have dead power controller Nov 09 13:24:17 <|vorkachev|> if someone have at least nand I'll take with pleashure Nov 09 13:25:03 |vorkachev|, I have nand, but probably without os ... anyway, you can find these on older flash discs Nov 09 13:25:25 |vorkachev|: lack RAM and NAND? you mean the chip is missing? that must have been an interesting accident Nov 09 13:25:48 <|vorkachev|> I also have blank nand and I have no programmer to write os to it Nov 09 13:26:03 <|vorkachev|> yes, no chips I desoldered them Nov 09 13:26:04 ah.. well JTAG would help with that Nov 09 13:26:18 <|vorkachev|> hwo could I forgot)) Nov 09 13:26:24 I see Nov 09 13:26:51 <|vorkachev|> I know, but I thought that it's impossible to find pinout, cause it wasn't found for such a long time Nov 09 13:27:23 |vorkachev|, it was semi-found ... noone just disclosed it ;D Nov 09 13:28:07 marex: put everything online... then when you can't find your stuff you just google yourself ;) Nov 09 13:28:09 <|vorkachev|> I wanted to try with that mobo, but as I sad I thought that cpu pins has no way out on motherboard Nov 09 13:28:21 <|vorkachev|> )) Nov 09 13:28:53 BobOfDoom, well Im sure I have it somewhere ;) Nov 09 13:29:44 it's pretty hard to scan something, that written with black pen on black-white printout ;-) Nov 09 13:29:59 it's barely readable too ... well I'll look for it Nov 09 13:30:39 <|vorkachev|> did someone try to find gpio pins as well? we could make second sd slot with spi protocol Nov 09 13:30:40 marex: but yeah, when you have time, if you can trace that connector and see if it is connected to the JTAG pins on CPU that'd be great. Pins 9 and 13 are definitely conencted to something on the CPU near where TDO should be, but my method of shoving wire under CPU is uh... not very accurate Nov 09 13:30:59 BobOfDoom: oh,you're right :( Nov 09 13:31:30 BobOfDoom, I'll have to find cpu pinout printout too ... Nov 09 13:32:01 marex: PXA270 electrical spec PDF? Nov 09 13:32:01 BobOfDoom: does it make sense? Nov 09 13:32:19 Sleep_Walker: well.. not if it's just got 64mb memory, that's pass the end of RAM Nov 09 13:32:43 Sleep_Walker: but who knows.. there's always a chance something weird is going on Nov 09 13:32:55 it must jump to exact place in RAM? Nov 09 13:33:15 marex: http://pubs.gumstix.org/documents/PXA%20Documentation/PXA270/PXA270%20Electrical,%20Mechanical,%20and%20Thermal%20Specification%20%5b280002-005%5d.pdf Nov 09 13:33:26 hmmm, sorry Nov 09 13:33:29 sure Nov 09 13:33:34 marex: apge 27 of PDF Nov 09 13:33:45 BobOfDoom, I have local mirror of that and some other sites, thanks Nov 09 13:34:02 BobOfDoom, I had it printed, it was more convenient that way :) Nov 09 13:34:19 ah :) Nov 09 13:34:37 marex: too much paper to take with :b Nov 09 13:34:57 OPIE has quite fast PDF viewer :b Nov 09 13:35:24 pinout is rather large though Nov 09 13:35:27 hard to view on a small screen Nov 09 13:35:37 <|vorkachev|> miska? have you finished with uploadinf? Nov 09 13:37:24 <|miska|> not yet Nov 09 13:37:34 <|miska|> 5 min to finish ext2 version Nov 09 13:42:27 |miska|, it has 3Gb or what ? Nov 09 13:42:45 oh ... I see, you made a DVD release Nov 09 13:43:20 haha Nov 09 13:43:45 <|vorkachev|> haha- cram version asks for login Nov 09 13:44:03 <|vorkachev|> miska, what should I do? I just copy-paste to SD Nov 09 13:44:28 marex: ? Nov 09 13:44:35 <|miska|> Not everybody is lucky to live at college :-P Nov 09 13:45:13 <|vorkachev|> great... do you use hires kernel? Nov 09 13:45:38 <|miska|> I used ordinary one Nov 09 13:46:32 <|vorkachev|> hmm.. let me check.. Nov 09 13:47:05 <|vorkachev|> not vanila, I jope? Nov 09 13:47:07 <|vorkachev|> hope* Nov 09 13:47:36 <|miska|> I tested it with hackndev and with some version of vannila and both worked Nov 09 13:48:59 <|vorkachev|> now it works Nov 09 13:49:09 <|vorkachev|> so you may mention it for others somwhere Nov 09 13:49:13 <|miska|> So problem was hires kernel? Nov 09 13:49:17 <|vorkachev|> hires sucks with gpe Nov 09 13:49:18 <|vorkachev|> yes Nov 09 13:49:38 <|miska|> Ok, I didn't mentioned gpe testing image yet anywhere ;-) Nov 09 13:49:53 <|vorkachev|> as you like it) Nov 09 13:50:55 <|miska|> I'll will write something short about it later in the evening onb my blog Nov 09 13:51:08 <|vorkachev|> nice Nov 09 13:52:48 <|vorkachev|> hmmm Nov 09 13:52:51 <|vorkachev|> it sucks) Nov 09 13:53:10 <|miska|> I told you that opie is better ;-) Nov 09 13:54:21 <|vorkachev|> my pour digi it extremely bad with gpe.. should I try openmoko? Nov 09 13:56:52 <|miska|> I didn't managed to get openmoko running Nov 09 13:57:43 <|vorkachev|> I'm loading it now.. may be I will ;) Nov 09 13:57:54 <|vorkachev|> Not everybody is lucky to live at college :-P Nov 09 14:00:35 <|vorkachev|> I started openmoko but can't get any futher calibrating Nov 09 14:00:51 BobOfDoom: any ideas what can be on CS2? Nov 09 14:03:24 Sleep_Walker: I'm still not sure anything is there Nov 09 14:03:33 Sleep_Walker: might be leftover config from 650 Nov 09 14:03:42 it is mapped and it changes during time Nov 09 14:03:57 hmm Nov 09 14:04:24 trap for H&D? :) Nov 09 14:04:50 maybe Nov 09 14:08:17 TX have JTAG somewhere on testpoints? Nov 09 14:13:03 grindars: seems like Nov 09 14:16:23 aww, treo 650 doesn't have the mysterious conenctor Nov 09 14:16:49 it does have heaps of mysterious neatly arranged test points though Nov 09 14:29:49 I'm still not sure about that pwm patch :( Nov 09 14:30:21 kzalloc can help with 'pwm_bl_data' structure Nov 09 14:30:52 but platform_pwm_backlight_data are staticly created Nov 09 14:31:21 so I don't know any rule about setting not set structure member to 0 :( Nov 09 14:32:42 do you mean are staticly allocated structs initialized to zero by default? Nov 09 14:32:56 yes they are Nov 09 14:33:03 I'm pretty sure Nov 09 14:33:08 thx Nov 09 14:33:36 ok.. I gtg sleep Nov 09 14:33:45 gnt Nov 09 14:34:09 I'll look at your changes tomorrow.. after maths exam :( Nov 09 14:34:20 good luck with that Nov 09 14:34:31 I may not wait till then :) Nov 09 14:34:37 I'm pretty sure about that :b Nov 09 14:34:47 ok Nov 09 14:34:54 only "details" are missing Nov 09 14:35:07 linux arm dudes will tell you if something is wrong anyway :p Nov 09 14:36:32 looking forward to :b Nov 09 17:08:57 * flyback is ready to pass out Nov 09 18:10:06 http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~miska/testing/ Nov 09 18:10:14 that's the config Sleep-Walker Nov 09 18:13:23 fine Nov 09 18:45:47 config ACK Nov 09 19:19:32 I recently tried OPIE on my T|X, but just now when I tried it, I got the fading white screen of death and now my T|X won't turn on. Does anyone know how I can get my PDA back? Nov 09 19:21:43 hey Sleep_Walker Nov 09 19:21:58 enthdegree, did you reset it Nov 09 19:22:07 Trying to akshully. Nov 09 19:22:25 Pushing the reset button does nothing. Nov 09 19:22:52 you might have to let the battery run down completely Nov 09 19:22:57 to clear the cpu registers and ram Nov 09 19:23:32 Ok. That would take a few weeks though wouldn't it? Nov 09 19:25:27 no Nov 09 19:25:29 just 1 pass Nov 09 19:25:37 oh sorry wrong window Nov 09 19:25:42 no a day or less Nov 09 19:25:45 if it's stuck on Nov 09 19:25:50 white screen right? Nov 09 19:26:54 It's not stuck on white screen. Nov 09 19:27:23 I reset it because i thought it would fry itself otherwise Nov 09 19:27:52 But now it's all black Nov 09 19:28:15 Do I have to open it up and take out the battery? Nov 09 19:29:14 enthdegree: it's probably soldered Nov 09 19:29:33 drat then. Nov 09 19:29:57 Do I just let it sit? Nov 09 19:30:00 white screen will NOT fry it Nov 09 19:30:05 power it on Nov 09 19:30:30 you could cut the wire and solder it Nov 09 19:30:35 if you know what you are doing Nov 09 19:31:21 Ok. Nov 09 19:31:33 Thanks. Nov 09 19:31:48 brb phone Nov 09 19:31:58 It's fine. Im just gonna let it sit. Nov 09 19:32:00 Bye! Nov 09 19:32:09 Thanks Nov 09 20:05:32 Sleep_Walker, did you get chance to build kernel for me? Nov 09 20:06:24 oh right Nov 09 20:06:29 in progress Nov 09 20:07:30 thx a lot my friend Nov 09 20:07:34 now since you are helping me Nov 09 20:07:38 is there any pieces of info Nov 09 20:07:40 that you want Nov 09 20:07:43 logs etc Nov 09 20:19:40 :( Nov 09 20:20:37 I've got some problem with that here Nov 09 20:24:34 you mean it won't build? don't worry about it, no use you wasting a lot of time on it Nov 09 20:25:42 it still wants to fix .config with silentoldconfig Nov 09 20:25:52 scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/arm/Kconfig Nov 09 20:25:53 *** Error during update of the kernel configuration. Nov 09 20:25:54 make[2]: *** [silentoldconfig] Error 1 Nov 09 20:25:56 make[1]: *** [silentoldconfig] Error 2 Nov 09 20:25:57 CHK include/linux/version.h Nov 09 20:25:59 make[1]: `include/asm-arm/mach-types.h' is up to date. Nov 09 20:26:00 make: *** No rule to make target `include/config/auto.conf', needed by `include/config/kernel.release'. Stop. Nov 09 20:40:15 I switched to other configuration and it's compiling now Nov 09 20:40:34 but I don't know if there will be all necesary drivers Nov 09 20:41:35 oh I will just try it Nov 09 20:41:43 don't have any data yet in linux anyways Nov 09 20:42:23 * flyback cleans up the sd card Nov 09 20:43:25 I'll give you only kernel and modules Nov 09 20:53:16 flyback: http://sleepwalker.hackndev.com/kernel-T5 - try it Nov 09 20:53:20 and enjoy :) Nov 09 20:53:25 and report! Nov 09 20:54:33 ok I will shortly Nov 09 20:54:38 since that has seperate modules package Nov 09 20:54:49 is there something in cocoboot etc I have to specify Nov 09 20:55:13 I don't know Nov 09 20:55:18 memory size? Nov 09 20:55:32 I'm not sure what there is already written as default Nov 09 21:04:19 I don't think it will work Nov 09 21:04:21 :/ Nov 09 21:04:25 unless Nov 09 21:04:33 i create a ext2 partition on the sd card Nov 09 21:04:49 no way to load the modules Nov 09 21:05:02 you have to have some system there Nov 09 21:05:12 you only add modules to ext2 partition Nov 09 21:05:17 kernel to vfat partition Nov 09 21:05:28 oh I guess I could loopback mount it Nov 09 21:05:30 and add the modules Nov 09 21:06:55 nopeI can't mount modules.squash to change it :/ Nov 09 21:08:29 hang think I might have it Nov 09 21:09:57 I don't know where to put the modules for sure :/ Nov 09 21:10:45 flyback: modules are not in squashfs format Nov 09 21:10:58 2.6.27 doesn't even contain drivers for squashfs Nov 09 21:11:04 make ext2 partition Nov 09 21:11:09 put there some system Nov 09 21:11:14 put there modules Nov 09 21:11:16 trying Nov 09 21:13:21 crashed and burned Nov 09 21:13:22 hang on Nov 09 21:13:46 burned? Nov 09 21:14:15 don't drink vodka when playing with linux on T|X Nov 09 21:14:23 err T|5 :b Nov 09 21:14:24 yeah you get the snow screen where it usually then starts loading linux Nov 09 21:14:30 it's just staying there Nov 09 21:15:36 well, try to ask someone who have T5 :/ Nov 09 21:15:40 I'm not the one Nov 09 21:16:01 maybe when I get one from kEdAR for a while... Nov 09 21:16:13 flyback: try it more times Nov 09 21:20:43 ok Nov 09 21:20:46 what I did wass Nov 09 21:20:50 use miskas's build Nov 09 21:20:57 but swap out the zimage Nov 09 21:21:05 I also added the modules but it's not even getting that far Nov 09 21:21:32 <|miska|> Yes, this kind of error doesn't depend on modules Nov 09 21:22:09 <|miska|> flyback: Did you use same initrd and cocoboot.conf? Nov 09 21:22:30 yeah Nov 09 21:23:08 do not :) Nov 09 21:23:15 ok then what do I do Nov 09 21:23:21 <|miska|> Well if you used initrd from hackndev package it shouldn't boot anyway cause it is in squashfs-lzma, but it should tell you... Nov 09 21:23:43 <|miska|> Maybe kernel size is too big... Nov 09 21:24:04 <|miska|> I'll try that too :-B Nov 09 21:24:16 Sleep_Walker, kernel is 1.0 meg Nov 09 21:24:32 chm Nov 09 21:25:20 I am going to have to setup my own build env soon Nov 09 21:25:24 what do you guys like to use Nov 09 21:25:34 I am tempted to use a arm distro and just run it under qemu Nov 09 21:25:40 so I don't run into cross compiling issues Nov 09 21:25:43 * |miska| is using gcc from crossdev Nov 09 21:25:52 ok I guess cross compiler is ok then :P Nov 09 21:25:59 <|miska|> That will be really slow Nov 09 21:27:09 yeah but I can throw it in a vm and not worry about it Nov 09 21:27:13 just let it do it's thing Nov 09 21:29:04 * Sleep_Walker imagine virtual cluster of several VM compiling together with distcc :) Nov 09 21:29:20 I love vm we setup a whole business around it at work Nov 09 21:29:43 it's easier to setup a windows 98 vm than try to make many older programs run in xp+ Nov 09 21:31:26 <|miska|> Well, with kvm it's not a problem to run virtual machine on supported platform, but arm is much slower... Nov 09 21:31:46 I know because it's fully emulated Nov 09 21:32:02 but sometimes that's easier than trying to make a old system compile code or work with cross compilers Nov 09 21:37:42 next kernel compilation Nov 09 21:39:28 ? Nov 09 21:40:34 I switched of many things - just for make this test Nov 09 21:40:41 oh ok :P Nov 09 21:41:43 984k Nov 09 21:45:30 flyback: try again, please Nov 09 21:46:26 2.6.27.5? Nov 09 21:46:42 =) Nov 09 21:46:56 ok url? Nov 09 21:47:08 kernel.org? Nov 09 21:47:17 for a palm genius Nov 09 21:47:18 :P Nov 09 21:47:27 :) Nov 09 21:48:01 flyback: same Nov 09 21:48:28 I need to reupdate the moduels also? Nov 09 21:49:21 not for beginning Nov 09 21:49:32 if you get through kernel init Nov 09 21:49:40 true Nov 09 21:49:55 nope Nov 09 21:50:41 other ideas? Nov 09 21:51:15 wait for the code to become part of miska's builds :/ Nov 09 21:51:53 * |miska| doesn't have T5 either and is less skilled than Sleep_Walker Nov 09 21:51:56 flyback: we can also try older code - 2.6.21 Nov 09 21:52:06 well miska Nov 09 21:52:09 for your testing page Nov 09 21:52:09 |miska|: I don't think so :b Nov 09 21:52:11 <|miska|> Testing USB Host? Nov 09 21:52:13 what kernel did you use Nov 09 21:52:14 yeah Nov 09 21:52:48 |miska|: yup Nov 09 21:53:29 <|miska|> I was playing on TX with old kernel, but it didn't looked so good, but I didn't tested connecting anything.. Nov 09 21:55:33 ok Nov 09 21:55:37 put the miska kernel back Nov 09 21:55:43 just to make sure I didn't canuck anything up Nov 09 21:55:54 loading ang now just fine Nov 09 21:57:24 what the canuck bbq Nov 09 21:57:33 did you add voice sound to big rootfs? Nov 09 21:58:58 * flyback shakes |miska| Nov 09 21:59:08 did you add a sound on startup or am I really going insane now Nov 09 22:00:36 <|miska|> It's there for some time Nov 09 22:00:45 <|miska|> It's only on first run Nov 09 22:00:52 ok cause it just scared the shit out of me :P Nov 09 22:03:17 doing shutdown Nov 09 22:05:53 do you guys want to try another kernel or give up for now Nov 09 22:06:00 cause if giivng up I am going out for a while Nov 09 22:06:43 * |miska| is in the middle of compilation Nov 09 22:07:00 <|miska|> Should be ready in a minute or so Nov 09 22:07:13 <|miska|> Maybe five ok Nov 09 22:08:11 * Sleep_Walker is washing up, maybe then :B Nov 09 22:08:22 no problem Nov 09 22:08:28 I will wait as long as you want, just asking Nov 09 22:17:09 <|miska|> flyback: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~miska/testing/tt5-hackndev-vanilla-kernel.tgz Nov 09 22:17:58 ok Nov 09 22:20:52 loading Nov 09 22:24:07 cru Nov 09 22:24:09 d Nov 09 22:24:13 * flyback can't find his usb coupler Nov 09 22:24:57 hmm Nov 09 22:25:11 it dropped to a shell like it normally does right before launching x Nov 09 22:25:20 nm Nov 09 22:25:22 it's going now Nov 09 22:26:29 <|miska|> So it's booting? Nov 09 22:26:41 * |miska| didn't add code for USB Host yet Nov 09 22:26:57 * |miska| just wanted to know if it will boot Nov 09 22:27:15 it's booted and I am at a console window Nov 09 22:27:19 with cat /proc/kmsg Nov 09 22:27:31 ok plugged in the usb hub, nothing detected so far Nov 09 22:28:03 plugged in flash reader, nothing Nov 09 22:28:10 * |miska| is going to recompile with USB host support Nov 09 22:28:42 :D Nov 09 22:28:53 wait it wasn;t on? Nov 09 22:29:07 |miska|: don't forget HID and SCSI disk for USB mass storage :) Nov 09 22:29:31 * |miska| needs to patch sources first Nov 09 22:30:32 oh ok Nov 09 22:30:35 shutting down then Nov 09 22:33:10 think this will take at least 10 mins or so? Nov 09 22:33:36 <|miska|> yes Nov 09 22:34:04 <|miska|> Or I can send my config to sleep_walker, he can maybe do it faster Nov 09 22:34:10 no I am not in hurry Nov 09 22:34:15 just wanted to take shower while waiting Nov 09 22:34:39 |miska|: still washing up :b Nov 09 22:45:54 how is it coming? Nov 09 22:48:05 finally glasses, thanks for asking :) Nov 09 22:54:45 * Sleep_Walker thinks that he has to find community near his house big enough to let be feed by others not to waste time on cooking and dishwashing :b Nov 09 22:56:33 |miska|: were you successful? Nov 09 22:56:36 * |miska| sometimes needs somebody with cooking skills too Nov 09 22:57:12 <|miska|> Still patching, searching for some includes now Nov 09 22:57:21 ok then I am hoping in the shower Nov 09 22:57:22 ok Nov 09 22:57:38 flyback: please do, something stinks here! :b Nov 09 22:57:40 :D Nov 09 22:57:46 heh Nov 09 23:06:20 <|miska|> flyback: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~miska/testing/tt5-hackndev-vanilla-kernel.tgz Nov 09 23:14:10 * flyback returns Nov 09 23:14:12 han gon Nov 09 23:16:59 ok loading Nov 09 23:17:07 ang splash screen Nov 09 23:17:28 :) Nov 09 23:17:40 why you smiling Nov 09 23:17:43 this means you suck at compiling Nov 09 23:17:50 joking :P Nov 09 23:19:03 stuck? Nov 09 23:19:06 suck Nov 09 23:19:27 you stink at compiling, no good, etc Nov 09 23:19:27 :P Nov 09 23:19:57 still loading Nov 09 23:20:01 back at console mode Nov 09 23:20:03 finishing up the load Nov 09 23:20:04 <|miska|> flyback: You don't know that I suck at patching and you'll need both of us to cooperate ;-) Nov 09 23:20:13 I was joking anyways miska :) Nov 09 23:20:24 !summon operator_rights Nov 09 23:20:49 * |miska| is going to take a shower, you've got two builds to play with, it should keep you busy for a while Nov 09 23:20:55 :D Nov 09 23:21:10 yeah I might go out a little later Nov 09 23:21:16 I need to leave the house at least once a year Nov 09 23:21:31 also I am suffering withdrawl so I need to keep my mind off it Nov 09 23:21:39 I am taking myself off medication that made me too sick Nov 09 23:22:03 hmm Nov 09 23:22:08 stuck at the /proc line Nov 09 23:22:32 * flyback waits a few mins Nov 09 23:24:43 ok Nov 09 23:24:47 plugged in usb hub Nov 09 23:24:54 nothing from cat /proc/kmsg so far Nov 09 23:25:27 modprobe ohci-hcd Nov 09 23:25:31 lsusb Nov 09 23:25:33 or Nov 09 23:25:45 mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb Nov 09 23:25:51 cat /proc/bus/usb/devices Nov 09 23:26:02