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Nov 14 03:08:08 * flyback dumps avg off his laptop
Nov 14 04:34:22 <BobOfDoom> rwhitby: modem is connected via analog audio to the wolfon chip in the treo
Nov 14 04:34:30 <BobOfDoom> I assume the same in the openmoko
Nov 14 04:37:08 <BobOfDoom> at least I'm pretty sure it's analog
Nov 14 04:37:20 <BobOfDoom> it's definitely not SPDIF
Nov 14 04:38:03 <BobOfDoom> yep, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem
Nov 14 04:38:12 <BobOfDoom> that says moko has analog GSM audio as well
Nov 14 04:38:34 <BobOfDoom> the GSM module in the treo could actualy be programmed to act as a full phone
Nov 14 04:38:45 <BobOfDoom> eg it's got USB, LCD etc controller in it
Nov 14 04:39:16 <BobOfDoom> unfortunately it's completely undocumented, and of course the pins wouldn't be connected, but hey
Nov 14 05:13:02 <Pepe> Hm.
Nov 14 05:45:43 * flyback goes to bed for another night wondering why he can't just fucking drop dead
Nov 14 05:51:24 <Speedy2> BobOfDoom: Is it I2S audio from Wolfson to the BRCM?
Nov 14 06:37:18 <BobOfDoom> Speedy2: no, I'm pretty sure it's plain analog
Nov 14 07:49:16 * Sleep_Walker is also pretty sure its plain analog
Nov 14 07:50:08 <Sleep_Walker> just some in/out pins connected to between WM and GSM (BCM)
Nov 14 10:50:25 <Sleep_Walker> slapin: hey!
Nov 14 10:50:46 <Sleep_Walker> slapin: could you please sync your T3 upstream work with our GIT repo?
Nov 14 10:51:04 <Sleep_Walker> slapin: just for case I will have on weekend time to play with that a bit
Nov 14 12:01:18 <Sleep_Walker> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7702913.stm omg :)
Nov 14 12:32:47 <Sleep_Walker> does it have any sense to get IR_TXD connected with other GPIO?
Nov 14 12:55:37 <slapin> Sleep_Walker, sure, I will this weekend.
Nov 14 12:55:44 <slapin> hi, all!
Nov 14 12:55:48 <Sleep_Walker> slapin: great, thanks
Nov 14 12:56:10 <Sleep_Walker> if it will be at the beginning of weekend, it would be the best
Nov 14 12:56:25 * slapin is in despair today
Nov 14 12:56:26 <Sleep_Walker> (since I'll have weekend to work on that)
Nov 14 12:56:34 <Sleep_Walker> why?
Nov 14 12:57:53 <slapin> Sleep_Walker, I have broke CVS repo for customer, was bisecting breakage for 3 days now and it happens to be a trivial one-liner bug :(
Nov 14 12:58:29 <Sleep_Walker> slapin: shit happens
Nov 14 12:59:24 <Sleep_Walker> slapin: important is your avarage capabilities than occasional incompetence ;)
Nov 14 12:59:27 <slapin> Sleep_Walker, what you actually request - my patches to hnd repo or vice versa? because I only have trivial basic machine working now, it is probably not needed for hnd repo, since it is just to demonstrate aproach for pxa26x on top of pxa255
Nov 14 13:00:57 <marex> slapin, so you threw away my work again ? thanks
Nov 14 13:01:05 <Sleep_Walker> slapin: if you did some work against 2.6.27, I'd be happy to see that
Nov 14 13:01:15 <Sleep_Walker> marex: stay cool
Nov 14 13:01:24 <Sleep_Walker> marex: he's just doing me a favour
Nov 14 13:04:11 <slapin> marex, to therew something away, you generally need something. I used compilation of your work and other stuff, and suggestions from mailing list, don't worry, nothing is wasted.
Nov 14 13:04:24 <Sleep_Walker> :D
Nov 14 13:05:22 <slapin> marex, this is why it is generally better to discuss things first, before implementation. collaboration rules.
Nov 14 13:05:57 <marex> slapin, well I said I will be doing it and the patch was available three months ago or so ...
Nov 14 13:06:30 <slapin> marex, I thought we decided otherwise, a few months ago.
Nov 14 13:07:12 <slapin> anyway, don't worry, I have things to do except for T3
Nov 14 13:07:44 <marex> slapin, we decided about z72... you was inactive till recently so I did that one too ...
Nov 14 13:08:42 <slapin> marex, and that stuff is not mainlinable, because of lots of things.
Nov 14 13:08:54 <marex> what stuff ?
Nov 14 13:09:05 <Sleep_Walker> marex: what are you afraid of? credits? major loss of function after our changes?
Nov 14 13:09:51 <marex> Sleep_Walker, well killing shitload of time for nothing isnt very pleasant ..
Nov 14 13:10:05 <slapin> marex, I don't want you to miss pleasure of reading LAKML
Nov 14 13:10:13 <Sleep_Walker> marex: you aren't talking about watching anime, are you :D
Nov 14 13:10:17 <slapin> marex, this is why collaboration rules.
Nov 14 13:10:54 <Sleep_Walker> btw. I think I'll buy also LD :)
Nov 14 13:11:26 <Sleep_Walker> marex: are all your patches also here? http://git.hackndev.com/?p=linux-2.6;a=summary
Nov 14 13:11:33 <slapin> marex, to be honest, I am, too, wasted shitloads of time on that
Nov 14 13:11:34 <marex> Sleep_Walker, no idea ...
Nov 14 13:11:40 <slapin> sory, afk for 2 hours
Nov 14 13:12:04 <Sleep_Walker> marex: well, it would be nice to have it there so users can test it (for example with some release)
Nov 14 13:13:35 <marex> some of them are here http://marex.hackndev.com/patches-mainline/
Nov 14 13:13:58 <Sleep_Walker> marex: it's not much community way, is it?
Nov 14 13:14:05 <Sleep_Walker> or you simply don't care?
Nov 14 13:14:12 <marex> what isnt community way ?
Nov 14 13:14:48 <Sleep_Walker> because you produce some patches and let others to take it, merge it etc
Nov 14 13:15:06 <Sleep_Walker> who can then say it is in consistent state?
Nov 14 13:16:15 <marex> well that's none of my business ... I gave you the code, you have no slightest right to demand something from me
Nov 14 13:16:59 <|miska|> And so don't have a slightest right to complain if somebody threw it away ;-)
Nov 14 13:17:00 <Sleep_Walker> marex: I just say it's not community way, I demand only one thing of you
Nov 14 13:17:29 <Sleep_Walker> stay cool - what I have with slapin is not your business
Nov 14 13:18:15 <Sleep_Walker> you want us force to use your code?
Nov 14 13:18:42 <Sleep_Walker> there is only one important stuff - functionality
Nov 14 13:21:03 <marex> Sleep_Walker, look ... the patch I prepared wasnt applied to lakml because it containted matrix keypad driver which wasnt still acked ... though you made slapin write it again ... thanks for making me waste a few days
Nov 14 13:23:46 <Sleep_Walker> marex: I'd like to have good "start point" to work with in some consistent state
Nov 14 13:23:51 <Sleep_Walker> nothing more
Nov 14 13:24:03 <Sleep_Walker> I'd like to have as much working code as possible
Nov 14 13:24:06 <marex> you have that site ...
Nov 14 13:24:23 <Sleep_Walker> If slapin does some modifications, I'd like to see it
Nov 14 13:26:00 <marex> so ... double wasting of time ... great
Nov 14 13:27:04 <Sleep_Walker> marex: stay cool, it's not your time
Nov 14 13:27:46 <marex> Sleep_Walker, it's my time in first place ...
Nov 14 13:27:47 <Sleep_Walker> marex: btw. if you made your code commited to our repo instead of handling patches against _some_ kernel, you wouldn't waste my time
Nov 14 13:28:00 <Sleep_Walker> this way I can have your patches as inspiration source only
Nov 14 13:28:28 <marex> Sleep_Walker, I made the patches available against mainline ... it YOUR problem you havent merged them to YOUR repo
Nov 14 13:28:49 <Sleep_Walker> marex: so you don't care about hackndev anymore?
Nov 14 13:29:23 <Sleep_Walker> I have no problem to use your patches as inspiration, so what are you arguing about?
Nov 14 13:29:36 <Sleep_Walker> stay cool and waste your time on anime as usual
Nov 14 13:30:22 <Sleep_Walker> and stop caring about my time, please
Nov 14 13:30:25 <marex> Sleep_Walker, what I said was I had those patches ready for mainlination ... and yes, I wasted nearly my whole summer holiday on kernel hacking
Nov 14 13:30:57 <Sleep_Walker> it is nice of you, but if you has my time so much in mind - why didn't you commited to our repo? :)
Nov 14 13:30:58 <marex> unlike you who had fun and did nothing else than blabing nonsense all around
Nov 14 13:31:22 <marex> Sleep_Walker, I dont care about your time at all ... but I do care about my time
Nov 14 13:31:30 <Sleep_Walker> marex: heh, you're just student with long holidays and noone to care about
Nov 14 13:31:42 <Sleep_Walker> my situation is different
Nov 14 13:32:11 <Sleep_Walker> this discussion is now over since I have better things to do and I don't want to waste your time ;)
Nov 14 13:32:56 <marex> Sleep_Walker, so have I ... and I could have used my time otherwise during my holiday ... which has nothing to do with me being a student
Nov 14 13:33:23 <marex> being a student doesnt imply I'd be doing kernel hacking just because it's convenient for you ...
Nov 14 15:34:16 <slapin> So, as I see, everybody wasting time these days
Nov 14 15:34:31 <slapin> I think time won't be happy about that
Nov 14 15:35:23 <slapin> anyway, I'm going to waste some more of it, by making stuff for mainline.
Nov 14 19:56:14 * flyback- suspects he accidentely od'd on a med last night, ugh
Nov 14 19:56:25 * flyback- has the hangover from hell
Nov 14 23:12:00 <Pepito> Hm...
Nov 15 01:17:42 <hey_joe> |miska|, any luck with a working wifi vanilla kernel, the one on the test site as of yesterday is broken
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