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Nov 21 15:02:28 <WildKitsune> hi
Nov 21 15:02:40 <WildKitsune> anyone's in there?
Nov 21 15:02:46 <Sleep_Walker> echo!
Nov 21 15:02:59 <WildKitsune> =)
Nov 21 15:03:29 <WildKitsune> Anyone who can help me compiling a Linux kernel for the Treo 650?
Nov 21 15:03:54 <WildKitsune> I already downloaded the palm4linux repository SVN
Nov 21 15:04:01 <Sleep_Walker> WildKitsune: 1] do you really need it?
Nov 21 15:04:07 <WildKitsune> but i don't know what to do with this
Nov 21 15:04:15 <Sleep_Walker> 2] ask
Nov 21 15:04:27 <Sleep_Walker> there is build kernel for Treo 650
Nov 21 15:04:31 <Sleep_Walker> use that rather
Nov 21 15:04:39 <WildKitsune> Where?
Nov 21 15:06:18 <WildKitsune> 1] Yep
Nov 21 15:06:58 <WildKitsune> 2] Is anyone in there who wants to help me compiling a linux kernel for the Treo 650?
Nov 21 15:11:19 <Elleo> WildKitsune: unless you actually want to do some kernel development, just download a prebuilt kenerl and file system image
Nov 21 15:11:23 <Elleo> e.g. http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/Illume/Treo-650/2008-11-13/
Nov 21 15:13:05 <Elleo> sdcard-base.tar.gz contains the zImage, cocoboot, config, etc. and openmoko-illume-*-rootfs.tar.gz/ext2.gz will give you a root file system image
Nov 21 16:09:39 <WildKitsune> Hey, i got some errors while trying to boot with cocoboot
Nov 21 16:09:42 <WildKitsune> Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the availible partitions:
Nov 21 16:09:48 <WildKitsune> Kernel panic - not syncing: YFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(1,0)
Nov 21 16:09:53 <WildKitsune> has anyone an idea?
Nov 21 16:10:21 <WildKitsune> it's a treo 650
Nov 21 16:12:43 <Sleep_Walker> yes
Nov 21 16:12:47 <marex> try different memory card maybe ...
Nov 21 16:13:12 <Sleep_Walker> try rootdelay=2
Nov 21 16:14:05 <WildKitsune> Sleep_Walker, now there are 2 new lines between the error messages
Nov 21 16:14:33 <WildKitsune> ah
Nov 21 16:14:42 <WildKitsune> that are the partitions
Nov 21 16:14:51 <Sleep_Walker> :)
Nov 21 16:16:14 <WildKitsune> but the name of the partition is the same
Nov 21 16:16:24 <WildKitsune> I'll try to remove /dev/
Nov 21 16:16:40 <Sleep_Walker> no
Nov 21 16:17:00 <Sleep_Walker> are you sure you have put rootfs into partition?
Nov 21 16:17:32 <WildKitsune> I'll take a look again
Nov 21 16:17:33 <Sleep_Walker> I haven't tried rasterman's Illume release
Nov 21 16:18:03 <Sleep_Walker> it is ext2 file on FAT partition or you put ext2 into partition?
Nov 21 16:19:28 <WildKitsune> i made a  23,5MB FAT Partition and 957MB ext2 Partition
Nov 21 16:20:46 <Sleep_Walker> and how you put ext2.gz into ext2 partition?
Nov 21 16:21:21 <WildKitsune> i didn't use ext2.gz
Nov 21 16:21:43 <WildKitsune> i used the rootfs.tar.gz
Nov 21 16:22:18 <WildKitsune> was that right?
Nov 21 16:22:19 <Sleep_Walker> sorry, as I said
Nov 21 16:22:24 <Sleep_Walker> right
Nov 21 16:22:31 <Sleep_Walker> I haven't tested it
Nov 21 16:22:40 <Sleep_Walker> so you untared it
Nov 21 16:22:52 <WildKitsune> yep
Nov 21 16:22:54 <Sleep_Walker> tar xzpf rootfs.tar.gz
Nov 21 16:22:55 <Sleep_Walker> ok
Nov 21 16:23:01 <Sleep_Walker> p is important there
Nov 21 16:23:21 <WildKitsune> i'll format the partition and try again
Nov 21 16:23:30 <Sleep_Walker> good idea
Nov 21 16:23:36 <Sleep_Walker> what you have set for root= ?
Nov 21 16:24:28 <WildKitsune> nothing, i just put the cocoboot.conf out of the tar sdcard-base.tar.gz
Nov 21 16:25:00 <Sleep_Walker> ok, it's time to download it and see settings - mmnt
Nov 21 16:25:20 <marex> try root=/dev/mmcblk0p2
Nov 21 16:25:46 <Elleo> that's what's currently in the cocoboot.conf
Nov 21 16:26:04 <Sleep_Walker> so it should be visible in cocoboot
Nov 21 16:26:14 <WildKitsune> yap
Nov 21 16:26:19 <Sleep_Walker> we sounds like choir :)
Nov 21 16:30:08 <WildKitsune> w8 a minute
Nov 21 16:33:20 <WildKitsune> same error
Nov 21 16:41:45 <WildKitsune> Is there any release you can recommend to me, Sleep_Walker
Nov 21 16:42:42 <Sleep_Walker> as Elleo said before, try that Illume
Nov 21 16:42:45 <Sleep_Walker> it's proven that it works
Nov 21 16:43:03 <Elleo> Sleep_Walker: that's what he is trying now
Nov 21 16:43:22 <Sleep_Walker> Elleo: so the problem is not in release
Nov 21 16:43:45 <Elleo> WildKitsune: now that you have it printing out a list of partitions (when you have rootdelay set) can you check that oen of those partition is actually mmcblk0p2?
Nov 21 16:44:10 <WildKitsune> w8
Nov 21 16:45:43 <WildKitsune> yep
Nov 21 17:05:04 <WildKitsune> I'll try to download the ext2.gz and zcat openmoko-illume-image-glibc-ipk*ext2.gz > /dev/sdb2
Nov 21 17:15:10 <WildKitsune> Sleep_Walker, Elleo, i just recognized a message: "Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus-type methods
Nov 21 17:16:44 <Sleep_Walker> it sounds unimportant for your case
Nov 21 18:36:12 <WildKitsune> Elleo?
Nov 21 21:31:24 * flyback chugs down his first vicadin, toothaches are a total beaver, son of mothercanucking moose sucker
Nov 21 21:31:47 * flyback AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Nov 21 21:42:24 <Elleo> WildKitsune: yep?
Nov 21 21:42:52 <WildKitsune> Elleo, works
Nov 21 21:42:57 <Elleo> oh, great :)
Nov 21 21:43:00 <Elleo> what was the problem?
Nov 21 21:43:07 <WildKitsune> i just used another sd card
Nov 21 21:43:11 <WildKitsune> i dont know
Nov 21 21:43:14 <Elleo> ah
Nov 21 21:43:28 <WildKitsune> bu it seems that there's no sound
Nov 21 21:43:48 <WildKitsune> and the phone function don't work i think
Nov 21 21:44:11 <Elleo> can't help you with that I'm afraid, I'm a bit too far out of the loop on things Treo related now
Nov 21 21:44:33 <WildKitsune> i think i should buy a freerunner
Nov 21 21:44:55 <Elleo> the freerunner is quite nice, it has plenty of problems of it's own though ;)
Nov 21 21:46:50 <WildKitsune> what do you think about the 1973?
Nov 21 21:47:20 <Elleo> I never used a 1973
Nov 21 21:47:31 <WildKitsune> k
Nov 21 21:48:29 <Elleo> rather than thinking ov 1973 vs freerunner you should probably be thinking more along the lines of freerunner vs gta03 (the next hardware platform)
Nov 21 21:49:17 <Elleo> whether you feel it's worth waiting a year (give or take) for the next version, or if you'd prefer to get your hands on a freerunner now, despite it's odd quirks
Nov 21 21:49:38 <Elleo> s/ov/of/
Nov 21 21:50:57 <WildKitsune> it costs 329 Euro here. That are ca. 410$
Nov 21 21:51:10 <WildKitsune> how much did you pay?
Nov 21 21:51:27 <Elleo> about 250 pounds I think
Nov 21 21:51:35 <WildKitsune> pounds...
Nov 21 21:51:37 <Elleo> or maybe it was 270
Nov 21 21:51:47 <Elleo> so *1.19 for euroes
Nov 21 21:51:58 <Elleo> gives about 320
Nov 21 21:52:17 <WildKitsune> 329 € = 278,256384 UK£
Nov 21 21:52:26 <Elleo> yeah, something like that
Nov 21 21:52:41 <Elleo> the exchange rate was a bit different at the time I got it, so I think it was a little l ess
Nov 21 21:52:50 <Elleo> but in that ballpark
Nov 21 21:53:46 <WildKitsune> i think the greatest features on  the freerunner are openmoko and USB ports
Nov 21 21:55:59 <WildKitsune> i don't know any other phone with USB Ports
Nov 21 21:55:59 <WildKitsune> (excluded 1973)
Nov 21 21:56:00 <Elleo> well, plenty of the HTC phones have USB ports
Nov 21 21:56:02 <Elleo> but I don't think they support host mode like the freerunner does
Nov 21 21:56:15 <Elleo> which is pretty cool
Nov 21 21:56:39 <marex> apparently pxa can do both host and gadget with the same wiring
Nov 21 22:02:57 * flyback goes to bed, fuck this shit
Nov 21 23:45:51 * flyback is about to take another vicidin early and doesn't care if he risks death, f this pain
Nov 21 23:47:40 * |miska| drunk some quite bad wine :-(
Nov 21 23:48:07 * |miska| needs to search for better pub next time
Nov 21 23:48:26 * |miska| has his own problems too ;-)
Nov 22 01:03:21 * flyback is swearing like a sailor even at work today due to his first toothache
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