**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 31 02:59:57 2009
Jan 31 03:03:10 * flyback notes it's a laptop with a useful 800x600 tft display fine for a serial terminal etc, he's not that sucidal to use a p150mmx desktop
Jan 31 03:04:00 <flyback> miska and marex are in czech republic
Jan 31 03:04:05 <flyback> so their time zones are very different
Jan 31 03:04:07 <flyback> don't give up bro
Jan 31 03:04:09 <flyback> :)
Jan 31 03:04:18 <flyback> you might have to come back another time but don't give up
Jan 31 03:05:25 <Rampentpancake> oh
Jan 31 03:05:27 <Rampentpancake> silly me
Jan 31 03:05:33 <Rampentpancake> i forgot about that
Jan 31 03:05:46 <Rampentpancake> see, i like what you guys are doing
Jan 31 03:05:58 <Rampentpancake> and i would love to contribute
Jan 31 03:06:31 <Rampentpancake> but i have no skills apart from a medium level knowledge of C++
Jan 31 03:07:59 <flyback> it's ok
Jan 31 03:08:11 <flyback> might be able to do app stuff :P
Jan 31 03:08:48 <Rampentpancake> what would i need if i wanted to try porting?
Jan 31 03:08:54 <flyback> no clue I don't code
Jan 31 03:08:57 <flyback> I do hw hacking
Jan 31 03:08:59 <flyback> sometimes for fun
Jan 31 03:09:08 <Rampentpancake> hw?
Jan 31 03:09:10 <flyback> and I wasted $400 + on a palm t4 back in 2005
Jan 31 03:09:13 <flyback> hardware
Jan 31 03:09:17 <flyback> t5
Jan 31 03:09:17 <Rampentpancake> oh
Jan 31 03:09:42 <Rampentpancake> meaning you take stuff apart/put back together?
Jan 31 03:10:23 <flyback> yeah and get it to do stuff it wasn't made to
Jan 31 03:10:29 <flyback> or the manfacturerd decided not to allow
Jan 31 03:11:26 <Rampentpancake> but isn't that controlled through software?
Jan 31 03:12:04 <Rampentpancake> so are you acctualy part of the dev team?
Jan 31 03:12:16 <flyback> no I am not
Jan 31 03:12:23 <flyback> well a lot of it can be sw
Jan 31 03:12:30 <flyback> but I have to do things like find serial port pins
Jan 31 03:12:39 <flyback> and attach a serial ttl level converter to rs232
Jan 31 03:12:47 <flyback> so it can attach to pc rs232 level serial
Jan 31 03:12:55 <flyback> or convert to usb tty which emulates a pc serial
Jan 31 03:13:03 <flyback> and I just fucked burned up another one last night :(
Jan 31 03:13:19 <flyback> that's 2 of those nice usb tty cables I burned up
Jan 31 03:15:02 <Rampentpancake> so whats the meaning of JTAG?
Jan 31 03:15:12 <Rampentpancake> and what does it do?
Jan 31 03:16:04 <flyback> google it
Jan 31 03:16:07 <flyback> read the wiki
Jan 31 03:16:32 <Rampentpancake> i noticed that the site is a little neglected
Jan 31 03:17:01 <flyback> I built a wiggler btw
Jan 31 03:17:11 <flyback> but you can get them on ebay for $10-$20
Jan 31 03:17:59 <Rampentpancake> wiggler?
Jan 31 03:18:34 <flyback> simpliest jtag
Jan 31 03:18:39 <flyback> using parallel port to "bit bang"
Jan 31 03:18:44 <Rampentpancake> ah
Jan 31 03:18:49 <flyback> it's very very very slow and eats up your cpu the time it's doing it
Jan 31 03:18:49 <Rampentpancake> nice
Jan 31 03:18:50 <flyback> but it's cheap
Jan 31 03:18:56 <flyback> and I have plenty of old boxes
Jan 31 03:18:59 <flyback> lets see
Jan 31 03:19:04 <flyback> 4 hrs to flash 4 meg
Jan 31 03:19:15 <flyback> vs trying to desolder 48 pin flash with wires the size of hairs
Jan 31 03:19:21 <flyback> then take that part to a programmer and fix it
Jan 31 03:19:27 <flyback> then resolder all those tiny wires
Jan 31 03:19:31 <flyback> I think I will wait the 4 hrs
Jan 31 03:19:33 <flyback> k thx bye :P
Jan 31 03:19:35 <Rampentpancake> still, you saved yourself 10-20$
Jan 31 03:19:43 <flyback> saved how?
Jan 31 03:19:51 <flyback> oh no the ebay ones are also wigglers
Jan 31 03:19:52 <flyback> :P
Jan 31 03:20:14 <Rampentpancake> well i assumed you made it yourself
Jan 31 03:20:29 <Rampentpancake> so you must have saved some money
Jan 31 03:21:03 <Rampentpancake> also, i just noticed that your name is a reference to flyback transformer?
Jan 31 03:21:08 <Rampentpancake> correct?
Jan 31 03:21:50 <flyback> bingo :)
Jan 31 03:21:54 <flyback> I made it just to do it
Jan 31 03:21:58 <flyback> but it was a pain and not again
Jan 31 03:22:00 <Rampentpancake> cool
Jan 31 03:29:03 <Rampentpancake> not sure if this is hw hacking, but i fixed a phone by useing a screen from a diffrent model, and it worked
Jan 31 03:29:41 <flyback> yeah :)
Jan 31 03:29:54 <Rampentpancake> woot!
Jan 31 03:32:33 <Rampentpancake> have you heard about the open moko project?
Jan 31 03:34:38 <flyback> that died a while ago I think
Jan 31 03:40:09 <Rampentpancake> no, it's going quite strong
Jan 31 03:40:27 <Rampentpancake> they are working on putting out a phone now
Jan 31 03:41:43 <Rampentpancake> since you're a hw hacker, mabye you can answer my question
Jan 31 03:42:08 <Rampentpancake> is it possible to upgrade/swap the ram chip on a pda?
Jan 31 03:45:23 <flyback> sometimes
Jan 31 03:46:00 <Rampentpancake> like does it have to meet a certain criteria?
Jan 31 03:46:10 <flyback> yeah
Jan 31 03:46:17 <flyback> device has to support the chip upgrades
Jan 31 03:46:20 <flyback> and can be a lot of work
Jan 31 03:46:22 <Rampentpancake> oh
Jan 31 03:46:51 <Rampentpancake> so you can't "mega hack" you own home-grown ram chip or something?
Jan 31 03:47:21 <Rampentpancake> i mean, they have laptops now that you can upgrade the RAM on
Jan 31 03:47:32 <flyback> generally not
Jan 31 03:47:34 <Rampentpancake> pdas should follow the crowd
Jan 31 04:45:07 <Rampentpancake> sleepwalker?
Jan 31 04:45:52 <Sleep_Walker> it's 5:45 here, let me sleep
Jan 31 04:47:53 <Rampentpancake> oh sorry
Jan 31 10:30:21 <Sleep_Walker> rampentpancake?
Jan 31 10:30:38 <Sleep_Walker> it's 11:30 - good morning :b
Jan 31 10:46:46 <booxter> Sleep_Walker, I thought a man should sleep for at least 8 hours per day)
Jan 31 10:47:07 <booxter> don't know if sleep_walkers should:)
Jan 31 10:48:08 <Sleep_Walker> booxter: I was awake just for a while
Jan 31 10:48:38 <Sleep_Walker> I slept abot 10 hours
Jan 31 10:48:44 * Sleep_Walker is ill
Jan 31 19:47:42 <Tropnevad> !ppcw
Jan 31 20:20:55 * flyback parents house is getting water from ice backed up ice in the gutters melting around the sewer drain in the roof and running into the house
Jan 31 20:21:20 * flyback ponders what he could cheaply rig up from home depot to keep pumping
Feb 01 00:40:18 * flyback also wishes he had a hack to run nt4 from livecd or usb flash
Feb 01 02:15:18 * flyback finds it odd that 2 streaming anime sites are having problems and suspects something is up
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