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Feb 05 21:37:41 <ferret_0567> marex: you still can't do anything as regards to wireless?
Feb 05 21:37:55 <ferret_0567> marex: on the Palm LifeDrive, that is
Feb 05 21:48:20 <marex> I havent touched it for quite some time ... it's examination period, dont disturb
Feb 05 21:48:44 <ferret_0567> sorry
Feb 05 21:49:24 <Sleep_Walker> ferret_0567: I've got newly LD too
Feb 05 21:49:33 <Sleep_Walker> ferret_0567: we can then disturb together :)
Feb 05 21:52:22 <ferret_0567> Sleep_Walker: no thanks
Feb 05 21:53:40 <ferret_0567> I would like to get the skills to make the wifi driver, and if -Marex can release his source code, then I would be able to work on it once I acquire the skills
Feb 05 21:53:58 <ferret_0567> Sleep_Walker: just getting an SDIO WiFi card is probably a better idea anyways
Feb 05 21:54:10 <ferret_0567> Sleep_Walker: e.g., Wireless G support
Feb 05 21:54:35 <ferret_0567> Sleep_Walker, Sleep-Walker: plus WPA2 support
Feb 05 21:54:54 <marex> as if wpa_supplicant couldnt do that
Feb 05 21:55:23 <Sleep-Walker> ferret_0567: sorry, I missed what you said
Feb 05 21:55:26 <ferret_0567> well, I didn't know that WPA/WPA2 support wasn't hardware dependent
Feb 05 21:56:38 <ferret_0567> Sleep-Walker: I would like to get the skills to make the wifi driver, and if -Marex can release his source code, then I would be able to work on it once I acquire the skills. I am currently learning Python though, so it will take about 2-3 years for me to learn hahah
Feb 05 21:57:29 <Sleep-Walker> ferret_0567: hahaha
Feb 05 21:57:43 <Sleep-Walker> ferret_0567: it will be faster to disturb marex
Feb 05 21:58:06 <ferret_0567> Sleep-Walker: but, just getting an SDIO card is probably a better idea anyways, unless you want to use the SD card slot for file storage. You can get wireless G support with that :)
Feb 05 21:58:13 <ferret_0567> Sleep-Walker: you just did O.o
Feb 05 21:58:56 <Sleep-Walker> really?
Feb 05 21:59:01 <Sleep-Walker> amfg :b
Feb 05 21:59:55 <ferret_0567> what program should I use to kill the infamous screen whine under Palm OS?
Feb 05 21:59:57 <ferret_0567> I hate it
Feb 05 22:00:05 <ferret_0567> WhineHack sucks
Feb 05 22:01:59 <marex> ferret_0567, reconsider what you just said
Feb 05 22:02:22 <ferret_0567> marex: it's not that it sucks outright, it works, for the most part
Feb 05 22:02:25 <Sleep-Walker> ferret_0567: what is the problem with WhineHack?
Feb 05 22:02:37 <ferret_0567> the problem is that it does not stay resident all the time
Feb 05 22:02:48 <ferret_0567> that is the only problem with it, otherwise it's great!
Feb 05 22:02:48 <marex> ferret_0567, do you have any patches to make it suck less ? no ... fine with me, I can kick you right away
Feb 05 22:03:01 <ferret_0567> marex: sorry, no I don't
Feb 05 22:03:35 <Sleep-Walker> ferret_0567: what do you mean with "all the time" ?
Feb 05 22:03:46 <Sleep-Walker> when does it stop being resident?
Feb 05 22:04:02 <ferret_0567> Sleep-Walker: sometimes when I switch applications, it stops killing the whine and the whine returns
Feb 05 22:04:31 <marex> debug it, send patch ... thanks for your cooperation
Feb 05 22:04:34 <Sleep-Walker> ferret_0567: does depend on which application is switched too?
Feb 05 22:04:43 <ferret_0567> marex: how do I debug it?
Feb 05 22:04:53 <ferret_0567> Sleep-Walker: yeah
Feb 05 22:05:38 <ferret_0567> marex: is there a compile with debug feature?
Feb 05 22:06:24 <marex> see gcc(1)
Feb 05 22:06:30 <marex> gcc -g
Feb 05 22:07:09 <ferret_0567> ok then, but I don't have a cross-compiler to make Palm OS programs or ARM Linux programs
Feb 05 22:07:31 <ferret_0567> I guess I get the cross-compiler from OpenEmbedded's BitBake
Feb 05 22:07:37 <Sleep-Walker> ferret_0567: so? which application causes that?
Feb 05 22:07:51 <ferret_0567> Sleep-Walker: I forget
Feb 05 22:07:56 <ferret_0567> Sleep-Walker: when I test it out again I'll tell you
Feb 05 22:08:01 <Sleep-Walker> ferret_0567: ok
Feb 05 22:09:18 <marex> really helpful ... jeez
Feb 05 22:16:31 <Sleep-Walker> marex: good bug report is art which has to be learned....
Feb 05 22:18:06 <marex> and as you can see, "certain someone" still has a way to go
Feb 05 22:19:43 * Sleep-Walker can't understand, why KMarble can export only map, which is shown
Feb 05 22:19:55 <Sleep-Walker> if it can render/download or whatever
Feb 05 22:20:12 <Sleep-Walker> it should be also possible to create big one at once
Feb 05 22:40:12 <flyback> hey Sleep_Walker
Feb 05 22:40:18 <Sleep_Walker> hi
Feb 05 22:40:26 <flyback> does going native ext3 on flash card really speed up vs loopfs
Feb 05 22:40:38 <flyback> my palm t5 might not last long enough to find out though
Feb 05 22:40:46 <flyback> case is falling off since last drop
Feb 05 22:40:56 <flyback> I still thinking about buying new case for $40 and a new battery for $20
Feb 05 22:41:11 <Sleep_Walker> I compared squashfs-lzma loopback with ext2 partition and partition was faster
Feb 05 22:41:19 <flyback> i KNOW LIKE with xmms
Feb 05 22:41:26 <flyback> it drags badly like 5 mins to read dir
Feb 05 22:41:29 <Sleep_Walker> ext3 is not much good for flash
Feb 05 22:41:45 <flyback> what is best for sd card flash
Feb 05 22:41:47 <Sleep_Walker> (journal)
Feb 05 22:41:56 <flyback> i'd love to use the native nand flash 256 meg flash drive
Feb 05 22:42:03 <flyback> probably nuch faster than sd/mmc
Feb 05 23:40:31 <flyback> so raster
Feb 05 23:40:46 <flyback> any plans to have your 32 meg palm desktop work on multiple targets
Feb 05 23:40:50 <flyback> t5, etc
Feb 05 23:40:58 <raster> nup
Feb 05 23:41:02 <raster> as i dont have them
Feb 05 23:41:05 <flyback> BITE MY "CANUCK"
Feb 05 23:41:10 <flyback> j/k it's cool
Feb 05 23:41:18 <raster> i see little reason why it wouldnt work in principle if fixed up
Feb 05 23:41:37 <raster> (ie the image builds for 5 etc. fixed like i have fixed palmt650
Feb 05 23:41:57 <flyback> t650 and t5 are almost the same hw afaik
Feb 06 00:00:16 <raster> then you can fix it! :)
Feb 06 00:03:01 <flyback> mabye
Feb 06 00:03:16 <flyback> my mind and body are falling apart faster than the t5 that has been dropped too many times
Feb 06 00:09:33 <raster> like all things
Feb 06 00:09:36 <raster> if i had a t5
Feb 06 00:09:42 <raster> i likely would build for it/fix it
Feb 06 00:09:53 <raster> (if it works sanely and is usable like my t650 is)
Feb 06 00:10:39 <flyback> yeah I put $500 or so into it
Feb 06 00:10:59 <flyback> needs battery, headphone jack, body and a new case with a belt loop not a canucking clip that kept coming off
Feb 06 00:11:05 <flyback> but the cpu, memory, screen etc all work fine
Feb 06 00:11:25 <flyback> biggest thing holding me back from switching to linux was all my plucker files
Feb 06 00:11:51 <flyback> probably $100 worth of parts it needs
Feb 06 00:13:13 <raster> you could just buy somethng better that is more able to run linux
Feb 06 00:26:55 <flyback> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YruAOxWG5uU&feature=related#
Feb 06 01:15:23 <flyback> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.akwxw.com%2Fnews%2Fdisplay_new.asp%3Fid%3D100&sl=zh-CN&tl=en
Feb 06 02:25:50 * flyback watches the final episode of bonen no xam'd
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