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Mar 03 03:15:10 <flyback> http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1398691 <-- ocz issuing recall on some psu's
Mar 03 05:44:06 <cuddlefish> how do you install packages?
Mar 03 05:44:59 <cuddlefish> on Angstrom
Mar 03 05:49:50 <cuddlefish> Please help
Mar 03 05:58:29 <flyback> I dunno but you might want to idle here
Mar 03 05:58:44 <flyback> when marex or miska or someone else is around
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Mar 03 18:31:22 <bmyers> hey folks..
Mar 03 18:32:59 <bmyers> what the relationsh between cocoboot's root= and linuc.boot.conf ROOT_DEV= ?
Mar 03 19:01:26 <marex> I guess it's the same, check the sources
Mar 03 19:16:46 <Sleep_Walker> marex: sources?
Mar 03 19:17:09 <Sleep_Walker> there is kernel with initramfs
Mar 03 19:17:30 <Sleep_Walker> wanna cut it out, unpack and search what is done in your code?
Mar 03 21:37:49 <bmyers> i was trying to bitbake an image but it keeps panic'ing cause it looking on mmcblk0p1 but I dont think my kernel likes that. it testing ok in qemu with mmcblk0p2
Mar 03 21:40:21 <marex> google root delay option in Documentation/
Mar 03 22:13:27 <bmyers> tried rootdelay. its not that..
Mar 03 22:14:09 <bmyers> it did help with qemu but not on the device
Mar 03 22:14:16 <flyback> so Marex
Mar 03 22:14:30 <flyback> native ext2 partition should be better for palm speed wise than loopfs?
Mar 03 22:15:14 <marex> bmyers, post kernel log somewhere
Mar 03 22:15:34 <marex> arent you missing loopfs support in kernel ? or ext2 ?
Mar 03 22:15:49 <marex> openembedded-built kernels are screwed, build your own one by hand
Mar 03 22:16:26 <bmyers> what probs are there with an OE kernel? they get it from H&Dev anyway
Mar 03 22:18:35 <bmyers> the kernel it built ran ok qith qemu (from hnd)
Mar 03 22:19:55 <marex> you see the problem, dont you
Mar 03 22:20:06 <marex> they are screwed, I dont trust them
Mar 03 22:20:10 <bmyers> yes sensai
Mar 03 22:20:39 <marex> bmyers, it's "sensei" ... please dont speak language you dont know
Mar 03 22:20:53 <marex> also, read the topic
Mar 03 22:21:06 <marex> bmyers, what device are you building it for ?
Mar 03 22:21:22 <bmyers> 700p
Mar 03 22:21:32 <marex> is that even supported ?
Mar 03 22:22:01 <marex> it isnt, I see
Mar 03 22:22:16 <bmyers> it's a glorified 650p
Mar 03 22:22:25 <bmyers> i am trying to create support for it
Mar 03 22:22:28 <marex> it's a different device
Mar 03 22:22:29 <bmyers> thats why i am here
Mar 03 22:22:55 <bmyers> supported by OE you mean?
Mar 03 22:22:55 <marex> fine, see RTFM in topic, grep it for "ycmiao", download devel tree and derive it off palmt5 or something
Mar 03 22:23:03 <marex> then send the patches to arm-linux-kernel
Mar 03 22:23:20 <marex> since linux-hnd is long dead branch
Mar 03 22:23:49 <bmyers> seems like all of HnDev is dead
Mar 03 22:24:07 <bmyers> what is it's purpose anyway?
Mar 03 22:25:36 <bmyers> why did anyone bother to even rebuild it?
Mar 03 22:25:49 <bmyers> should have left it down when the chance was there
Mar 03 22:26:22 <bmyers> sensei
Mar 03 22:27:02 <marex> nah ... HnD isnt dead, it just reformed
Mar 03 22:27:26 <marex> what chance ? what are you talking about ?
Mar 03 22:27:55 <marex> you see, linux-hnd was experimental branch of linux-hh
Mar 03 22:28:06 <marex> and now we are all pushing the stuff towards mainline
Mar 03 22:30:23 <bmyers> hnd went down a year ago or so? i.e. old.hackndev.whatever
Mar 03 22:31:08 <marex> someone cracked into the server ... so it was reinstalled
Mar 03 22:31:21 <bmyers> perfect chance.. right there..
Mar 03 22:31:28 <marex> huh?
Mar 03 22:31:51 <bmyers> you chance to pull out, zip up and go home..
Mar 03 22:31:58 <flyback> bmyers,
Mar 03 22:32:07 <flyback> marex might be a arrogant annoying asshole sometimes
Mar 03 22:32:09 <flyback> but he works his ass off
Mar 03 22:32:13 <flyback> as do the other developers
Mar 03 22:32:20 <flyback> I am not going to let you badmouth the developers here
Mar 03 22:32:24 <marex> flyback, shut up, go die already dammit
Mar 03 22:32:26 <flyback> even if they gave up
Mar 03 22:32:34 <flyback> they worked hard they deserve a rest
Mar 03 22:32:42 <flyback> NO YOU STFU WHILE I AM DEFENDING YOU MAREX
Mar 03 22:32:43 <flyback> :p
Mar 03 22:32:52 <bmyers> exactly my point..
Mar 03 22:32:58 <marex> flyback, I can defend myself perfectly well
Mar 03 22:33:13 <marex> bmyers, why would we pull out ?
Mar 03 22:34:11 <marex> bmyers, I dont see what you are up to ... not like I care ... but you see, you did nothing to help this project, so you have (luckily) no word in what we do
Mar 03 22:34:24 <marex> well thanks for motivating us to not give up ;)
Mar 03 22:34:29 <bmyers> you are right flybak. he is arrogant.
Mar 03 22:35:10 <bmyers> not looking to start a chat fight.
Mar 03 22:35:53 <bmyers> just looking to do something usefull with an allbeit old 700p
Mar 03 22:36:51 <marex> bmyers, well I gave you more advices than enough
Mar 03 22:37:06 <bmyers> most questions are answered with RTFM, thats a dead trail or this...
Mar 03 22:37:21 <marex> and one more is here - dont try to anger the devs here, since you depend on their knowledge (that includes me, right)
Mar 03 22:37:39 <bmyers> right.
Mar 03 22:37:40 <marex> bmyers, please read the topic and see what the RTFM stands for, thanks
Mar 03 22:37:48 <marex> (topic for this channel)
Mar 03 22:38:09 <marex> and be sure to read it till the end
Mar 03 22:38:49 <bmyers> will do.
Mar 03 22:39:11 <bmyers> dont get the idea that I'm not appreaciative of all (all devs) work.
Mar 03 22:39:31 <bmyers> i am very greatfull of whats been done.
Mar 03 22:39:44 <bmyers> i wouldnt waste my time with it if I thought it was junk.
Mar 03 22:47:54 <bmyers> BTW: most of the 650 bootpackss and images I've tried do work on the 700p as long as I tell coco it's a 909
Mar 03 23:32:11 <marex> linux-hnd is dead anyway, use the mainline one and use linux-hnd as the reference
Mar 03 23:53:32 <bmyers> what hh are you devel'ing on now marex?
Mar 03 23:54:28 <marex> right in this moment - palmt5
Mar 03 23:55:25 <bmyers> just curious..
Mar 04 00:08:40 <flyback> oooo
Mar 04 00:08:45 <flyback> marex you need any help testing?
Mar 04 00:09:18 <marex> testing what ?
Mar 04 00:10:04 <flyback> t5 stuff :P
Mar 04 00:14:17 <marex> I can test it well myself ...
Mar 04 00:16:44 <flyback> ok
Mar 04 02:50:35 * flyback notes how FREAKING COOL it is to watch a hard drive deal with a busted head via the tmos serial interface and you get to watch the report as it says "spin up motor" "head not detected" etc
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