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Mar 10 03:00:37 <gr3y_m4tt3r> O.o
Mar 10 03:00:58 <flyback> WILL IT BLEND? --- FUCKING TROLLS
Mar 10 03:02:14 <gr3y_m4tt3r> hmm
Mar 10 03:02:25 <gr3y_m4tt3r> hey. i've got a few questions...
Mar 10 03:02:28 <flyback> DID YOU HAVE a pda question?
Mar 10 03:02:28 <flyback> surre
Mar 10 03:02:32 <gr3y_m4tt3r> :)
Mar 10 03:02:55 <gr3y_m4tt3r> flyback: what type of pda do you have?
Mar 10 03:03:11 <flyback> palm t5
Mar 10 03:03:34 <gr3y_m4tt3r> ah. well. sorta close, maybe. i have a TX (first gen.)
Mar 10 03:03:54 <gr3y_m4tt3r> i was wondering what the best way to back up the device might be..
Mar 10 03:04:13 <gr3y_m4tt3r> also, i was wondering if anyone here has used garux
Mar 10 03:04:36 <gr3y_m4tt3r> and if it actually wipes the palm software off of the device so that you can only use linux on it..
Mar 10 03:05:00 <flyback> doesn't wipe flash nvram pda's
Mar 10 03:05:06 <flyback> haven't got enough support to do those yet
Mar 10 03:05:10 <flyback> and I use cocoboot
Mar 10 03:06:07 <gr3y_m4tt3r> ah. i've gotten cocoboot to work on my pda. played with it throughout the day today.
Mar 10 03:06:24 <gr3y_m4tt3r> but, the wifi doesn't seem to work
Mar 10 03:06:52 <gr3y_m4tt3r> so i'm going to try loading stuff from miska's test directory onto it right now.
Mar 10 03:07:43 <gr3y_m4tt3r> but it seems that there's also a separate hackndev sourceforge project for linux on the TX. :\
Mar 10 03:08:03 <gr3y_m4tt3r> i downloaded it, but i don't have my palm all backed up, so i didn't try booting it.
Mar 10 03:08:26 <flyback> that's what I played with
Mar 10 03:08:27 <flyback> his test stuff
Mar 10 03:08:32 <flyback> I played with the usb hack
Mar 10 03:08:34 <flyback> looks promising
Mar 10 03:08:39 <flyback> been months since I could play with linux again
Mar 10 03:08:48 <gr3y_m4tt3r> usb hack?
Mar 10 03:08:50 <flyback> it's falling apart so I have to do some emergency case repair work
Mar 10 03:08:55 <flyback> and repair the power button
Mar 10 03:08:57 <flyback> yeah
Mar 10 03:09:08 <flyback> pxa270 based palms have a usb controller that works as a host
Mar 10 03:09:11 <flyback> not just client
Mar 10 03:09:15 <flyback> so it can use usb keyboards
Mar 10 03:09:17 <flyback> flash drives
Mar 10 03:09:21 <flyback> wireless usb dongles
Mar 10 03:09:32 <flyback> you just need a powered usb hub because the palm itself can't do +5
Mar 10 03:09:35 <gr3y_m4tt3r> nice. i'm guessing you have to do some hardware modding for that?
Mar 10 03:09:39 <flyback> and a usb male/male adaptor
Mar 10 03:09:41 <flyback> nope
Mar 10 03:09:48 <gr3y_m4tt3r> ah.
Mar 10 03:10:02 <flyback> <flyback> you just need a powered usb hub because the palm itself can't do +5
Mar 10 03:10:05 <flyback> <flyback> and a usb male/male adaptor
Mar 10 03:10:09 <gr3y_m4tt3r> right
Mar 10 03:10:10 <flyback> and your usb sync cable
Mar 10 03:10:11 <gr3y_m4tt3r> got that
Mar 10 03:10:20 <gr3y_m4tt3r> cool
Mar 10 03:11:15 <gr3y_m4tt3r> another question: in the test directory for the rootfs files, what's the difference between opie and gpe, and what's the difference between the normal ones and the 'large' ones?
Mar 10 03:11:29 <gr3y_m4tt3r> (two questions, i guess)
Mar 10 03:11:56 <flyback> just different gui setups and performance vs memory and space usage etc
Mar 10 03:12:17 <gr3y_m4tt3r> hmm.
Mar 10 03:12:33 <gr3y_m4tt3r> thought maybe the large versions came with more utilities or something..
Mar 10 03:12:36 <gr3y_m4tt3r> thanks.
Mar 10 03:13:56 <flyback> they do
Mar 10 03:14:05 <flyback> but it's a trade off between speed, size and ram usage
Mar 10 03:14:07 <flyback> probablya lso
Mar 10 03:14:18 <gr3y_m4tt3r> ah
Mar 10 03:14:32 <gr3y_m4tt3r> which gui do you prefer? gpe or opie?
Mar 10 03:15:24 <flyback> I think I used opie
Mar 10 03:15:26 <flyback> but don't remeber
Mar 10 03:15:39 <flyback> my biggest hold up on going over linux was all the plucker files I have
Mar 10 03:16:12 <gr3y_m4tt3r> ah. i'm putting both on for this run, though i've already used opie, and like it well enough.
Mar 10 03:16:16 <gr3y_m4tt3r> plucker files?
Mar 10 03:16:59 <flyback> yeah
Mar 10 03:17:08 <flyback> prefetched webpages reformatted to palm screen
Mar 10 03:19:09 <gr3y_m4tt3r> ah. right. knew i'd heard that term before.
Mar 10 03:24:37 <gr3y_m4tt3r> booting gpe rootfs from testing directory.
Mar 10 03:24:41 * gr3y_m4tt3r crosses fingers
Mar 10 03:37:34 <gr3y_m4tt3r> hmm.. gpe-large seems a bit slow. i think it froze..
Mar 10 03:49:52 <gr3y_m4tt3r> hmm. bummer. opie-large only gets a little over half way on the loading bar.
Mar 10 03:51:02 <gr3y_m4tt3r> ok. i'm going to try the normal one.
Mar 10 03:51:38 <gr3y_m4tt3r> question: i know that lzma is slower (although smaller) than ext2. how does cram compare, though?
Mar 10 03:52:44 <gr3y_m4tt3r> hmm. looks like the file is larger. does that mean that it might run faster?
Mar 10 03:55:31 <flyback> the best is a native partition
Mar 10 03:55:34 <flyback> I am going to play with that soon
Mar 10 04:46:09 <psufan> hey flyback
Mar 10 04:57:37 <flyback> hello trollfan
Mar 10 05:12:50 <psufan> hows it hanging
Mar 10 06:06:47 * flyback turns on some "boards of canucks"
Mar 10 06:07:07 * gr3y_m4tt3r waits for linux to load on his palm...
Mar 10 06:08:47 * fdv_ too
Mar 10 06:12:08 <gr3y_m4tt3r> damn. opie cram rootfs froze at about 10% loading bar
Mar 10 06:12:15 <psufan> hows it hanging
Mar 10 06:12:29 <gr3y_m4tt3r> unfortunately, it's hanging, and not loading. :(
Mar 10 06:13:27 * gr3y_m4tt3r downloads ext2 rootfs
Mar 10 06:26:20 <gr3y_m4tt3r> hmm. :(
Mar 10 06:27:07 <gr3y_m4tt3r> why does this keep freezing on the Angstrom loading screen?
Mar 10 06:35:17 <flyback> dunno ask marex or miska when they are up
Mar 10 06:35:34 * gr3y_m4tt3r nods
Mar 10 12:42:12 <flyback> http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTIzNjYzNDMyNVpDNndRdjJTSFFfMV8xX2wuanBn
Mar 10 12:50:43 * flyback is going to pass out now
Mar 10 13:03:49 <tuna`> hi
Mar 10 23:53:39 * flyback bbl cooking dinner
Mar 11 01:35:52 * flyback wonders if 2000mg of advil will slience the crotch pain or himself for good, either way he wins
Mar 11 01:36:20 * flyback notes it would be nice to die on his bday
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