**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 24 02:59:57 2009 Mar 24 06:40:17 anyone know how I can update to debian unstable ? Mar 24 06:50:34 neeeeeevermind Mar 24 06:51:05 a new one! Anyone know how to get this debian xwindows running? I keep getting xf86PciVideoInfo is not set Mar 24 06:54:02 I believe the /etc/xor.conf containing the info for 'fbdev' is the issue, seeing as that would be my 'PXA Framebuffer' that I believe does the video portion of things ? Mar 24 07:40:50 nevermind, video is working fine now Mar 24 07:41:10 next up is the keyboard layout, what a pain in the ass... there's a million pages out there that tell you how to configure your keyboard layout for every flavor of linux but the one you're running Mar 24 07:45:09 doing another roundabout apt-get install console-data console-tools debconf to hopefully gain access to what I believe will allow me to choose from a list of PC keyboards Mar 24 07:45:29 instead of simply manually remapping actual keys... I can't believe this is just such a complete and utter pain Mar 24 07:50:45 flipping awesome, I just needed these console tools, now I can do ita ll Mar 24 08:18:51 Oh my god... How long is it [git clone http://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/kernel/git-cur/linux-2.6-arm.git/] downloading? ^^ Mar 24 08:21:47 "Getting pack a110df21a960e8fe9b5eb77bfc2d54d9d11a9682 which contains f3b8436ad9a8ad36b3c9fa1fe030c7f38e5d3d0b" from approximately 15 minutes ;p Mar 24 08:22:03 Pfu. More ;) Mar 24 08:27:30 moe~ Mar 24 08:28:16 Informatic, consider downloading ~600megs ... I forgot my crystal ball back at home, so you have to use brain or calculator, whichever works Mar 24 08:29:47 I see you are very ironic, marex ;) Mar 24 08:32:01 Done... Mar 24 08:32:24 When i will come back to home i will try your wifi patches. Mar 24 08:32:39 [yeah.. my english grammar..] Mar 24 08:33:02 Second Conditional. Bye. Mar 24 09:22:01 PalmTE2 scheduled for mainline Mar 24 15:12:26 Ok. I've patched the succesfuly arm:devel kernel for TX WiFi ;) Mar 24 15:12:32 Now trying to compile... Mar 24 18:01:40 could I possibly get a trac account ? Mar 24 18:02:02 I want to write up some tutorials in the wiki for doing some common stuff Mar 24 18:02:31 maybe get some more newer users using this thing Mar 24 19:42:28 pretty please ? Mar 24 19:51:01 what? Mar 24 19:54:33 could I possibly get an account for trac so I can add some docs to the wiki ? Mar 24 19:54:44 what docs? Mar 24 19:54:46 it says to login using your h&d account, but that doesn't work Mar 24 19:54:52 tutorials mainly Mar 24 19:55:04 Xedecimal, ask farcaller Mar 24 19:55:20 *screams farcaller's name* Mar 24 21:28:52 hey Marex Mar 24 21:28:55 sdhc Mar 24 21:29:00 does it require hw changes or just sw? Mar 24 21:31:46 worksforme on TE2 Mar 24 22:12:37 what's TE2 ? If you don't mind me asking Mar 24 22:14:54 palm Mar 24 22:15:09 marex no I mean if i want to use a big sd in my t5 Mar 24 22:15:14 it's only palmos that has issues right? Mar 24 22:15:20 yes Mar 24 22:15:35 can I just partition the sd card for a small partition at the start for the os kernel Mar 24 22:15:42 or will palm chock on the whole card anyways? Mar 24 22:16:16 sdhc != sd Mar 24 22:16:23 they use different addressing Mar 24 22:16:37 sdhc wont even be detected Mar 24 22:17:53 but in linux it would work right? Mar 24 22:18:13 yes Mar 24 22:18:15 ok Mar 24 22:18:21 can cocoboot load from internal flash on t5? Mar 24 22:24:56 yea Mar 24 22:25:48 http://marex.hackndev.com/cocoboot-xscale-mem.prc Mar 24 22:26:30 I need feedback ... ^ does this show amount of your memory fine ? (tap menu -> leftmost thing there -> Memory) Mar 24 22:26:42 Xedecimal ^ Mar 24 22:30:12 I don't have a windows pc right now or linux tools to talk to my palm :/ Mar 24 22:30:26 actually Mar 24 22:30:33 will that run just from copied to card? Mar 24 22:30:51 yes Mar 24 22:30:57 cool lemme go get my reader then Mar 24 22:31:29 lemme see also if my laptop has enough battery left to make backup of palm first just in case Mar 24 22:31:42 ac adaptor on laptop is broken and it's the ony windows box I had right now Mar 24 22:31:42 hang on Mar 24 22:32:08 stupid dell defect Mar 24 22:32:13 3 ac adaptors in less than 1 yr Mar 24 22:32:53 dell replaces them free but I feel stupid calling them over and over :/ Mar 24 22:33:00 I am not the only person to run into this Mar 24 22:33:04 many people have complained Mar 24 22:33:12 what happens is the output wire right where it comes out of the "brick" Mar 24 22:33:15 gets a short Mar 24 22:33:50 if I had a full linux box I would use palm tools there Mar 24 22:33:53 but running livecd on this box Mar 24 22:34:43 ok backing up :) Mar 24 22:35:02 hey do you know of any good tools for converting plucker files to a linux reading app Mar 24 22:35:12 or a linux reading app that reads plucker files without crash Mar 24 22:35:24 that's the only thing holding me back from using linux for palm all the time Mar 24 22:35:28 I have 1000's of plucker files Mar 24 22:37:10 feedback!!!!!! Mar 24 22:37:53 YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE! Mar 24 22:37:56 * flyback PUNCHES HIS PALM Mar 24 22:38:08 'fatal error memory manager.c blah blah blah" Mar 24 22:38:11 just doing a hotsync Mar 24 22:38:17 don't do a hotsync Mar 24 22:38:18 get cardreader Mar 24 22:38:20 I defintely won't regret the death of palm os Mar 24 22:38:26 piece of shit Mar 24 22:38:30 turns your phone into a card reader instead Mar 24 22:40:31 marex... Palm Treo 650 Mar 24 22:40:40 RAM base: 0xa000... Mar 24 22:40:48 Size: 32mb (0x1180000) Mar 24 22:40:56 Phys TTB: 0xa1ffc000 Mar 24 22:41:01 the size is OK ? Mar 24 22:41:02 fine Mar 24 22:41:02 * flyback thinks he fatally killed off his sansa today slamming it against the floor Mar 24 22:41:03 Virt TTB: 0xa1ffc000 Mar 24 22:41:09 oh well the screen was broken anyway Mar 24 22:41:37 Xedecimal, fine ... 650 has 32megs Mar 24 22:41:45 great Mar 24 22:41:46 that's an internal cocoboot build ... Mar 24 22:41:54 dammiyt Mar 24 22:41:54 (prerel 0.6.2) Mar 24 22:41:59 everything is fucking shit this week Mar 24 22:42:01 nothing works Mar 24 22:42:06 I can't even do a hotsync Mar 24 22:42:12 flyback: don't hotsync Mar 24 22:42:20 hotsyncing sucks Mar 24 22:42:40 marex: got anything else to test? Want anything else done? Got some grunt work ? Mar 24 22:43:02 nah ... Mar 24 22:43:13 I know one thing I can do, make a key file for loadkeys for the treo 650p, has that been done yet ? Mar 24 22:43:14 linuxexpo is comming close, we are reassembling local team Mar 24 22:43:31 dunno, I dont have 650 Mar 24 22:44:01 reassembling the local team, what's that mean ? Mar 24 22:44:15 * flyback tries one more time with the card removed Mar 24 22:44:27 flyback: are you just trying to write a file onto your device ? Mar 24 22:44:31 no Mar 24 22:44:34 backup everything Mar 24 22:44:37 in case this goes bad Mar 24 22:45:19 then get card reader and back it up like a regular removable drive Mar 24 22:46:05 I don't exactly know where it is, but I could put it somewhere for ya Mar 24 22:48:48 lost my drop.io creds Mar 24 22:50:30 got 'em back! Mar 24 22:50:35 http://drop.io/Xedecimal Mar 24 22:50:49 try that little app, the last time you'll ever have to hotsync ever ever ever again Mar 24 22:51:01 Xedecimal, well the Czech fraction of HnD is preparing for linuxexpo ;) Mar 24 22:51:25 is linux expo something special ? Mar 24 22:51:28 I need to emulate CPU using brain again ... bbl Mar 24 22:51:44 Xedecimal, yea ... we have a booth there and I have a speech there too Mar 24 22:51:52 FUCK MY PALM IN THE ASS Mar 24 22:51:57 I don't care if I lose data Mar 24 22:52:04 are you in windows ? Mar 24 22:52:05 i'm going to try marex's thing anyways Mar 24 22:52:24 I don't think you'll lose data, I've never lost data with cocoboot Mar 24 22:52:33 I don't see how it's even possible without even booting a nix Mar 24 22:52:39 flyback, you cant loose data on t5 this way Mar 24 22:53:11 with my luck I probbaly could Mar 24 22:54:21 well I tested on T5 anyway ... Mar 24 22:59:54 * flyback would like to find all the people at palm who knew the t5 was defective when shipped and KILL THEM Mar 24 23:00:18 why was it defective ? Mar 24 23:00:23 crash Mar 24 23:00:24 crash Mar 24 23:00:24 wasnt there guarantee ? Mar 24 23:00:24 crash Mar 24 23:00:29 web NEVER WORKED Mar 24 23:00:33 it can't handle most pages Mar 24 23:00:35 locks up Mar 24 23:00:41 can't multitask Mar 24 23:00:47 they promised easy upgrade to os 6 when out Mar 24 23:00:54 then decided os 6 woul dbe new devices only Mar 24 23:00:56 then didn't do os 6 Mar 24 23:02:13 get debian and dillo Mar 24 23:02:15 then you got your web Mar 24 23:02:25 I want iphone's safari Mar 24 23:02:32 mobile version for debian, is that possible ? Mar 24 23:05:51 is the palm cdma hardware a generic compatible cdma device, or does it need a specific driver of some sort to be able to communicate with it ? Mar 24 23:06:10 I was really contemplating figuring out how to communicate with the cdma modem/phone Mar 24 23:06:52 I found some information for communicating with the cdma device over usb Mar 24 23:07:02 marex Mar 24 23:07:10 can you give me that filename again Mar 24 23:07:24 marex> http://marex.hackndev.com/cocoboot-xscale-mem.prc ? Mar 24 23:07:35 thx Mar 24 23:08:31 and I've noticed a couple date errors on the debian copy on this treo Mar 24 23:08:41 which sets the date sometime around 1939, is that an active bug or something ? Mar 24 23:08:46 I've got soooooo many questions Mar 24 23:08:58 ok marex Mar 24 23:09:03 I ccan get to the screen Mar 24 23:09:04 what do I do Mar 24 23:09:08 popup key Mar 24 23:09:10 memory Mar 24 23:09:16 which is Mar 24 23:09:25 foudn it Mar 24 23:09:26 uhmmm, across from 'home' ? Mar 24 23:09:28 ok Mar 24 23:09:44 then state what size of memory the device has Mar 24 23:09:49 ram base 0x0a0000000 Mar 24 23:10:00 size 32mb (0x1220000) Mar 24 23:10:04 (did you actually count the zeros ?) Mar 24 23:10:06 the answer is '32' Mar 24 23:10:15 this is a t5 ? Mar 24 23:10:16 phy ttb 0xa0004000 Mar 24 23:10:23 virt ttb:0x4000 Mar 24 23:10:24 yes Mar 24 23:10:44 fine ... now does anyway have a device I dont have ? Mar 24 23:10:50 (xscale one) Mar 24 23:10:53 User Available Memory RAM: 55 MB / Flash: 160 MB Mar 24 23:10:58 is that what it's supposed to be ? Mar 24 23:11:00 anything else you want marex Mar 24 23:11:23 treo 700p is untested Mar 24 23:11:30 no i MEAN with me and t5 Mar 24 23:11:42 I don't think I know a single person that has a treo 700p Mar 24 23:11:46 my neighbor has a centro Mar 24 23:12:11 well Im just running centro bootloader on my brain to find out how to do suspend-to-ram Mar 24 23:12:13 she wouldn't like me tearing apart her phone though Mar 24 23:13:04 farcaller! Gimme a trac login! Mar 24 23:27:26 there we go, just got the rest of the treo 650p keys into the key map Mar 24 23:27:35 need another font too, talk about tin Mar 24 23:27:37 y Mar 24 23:37:04 Xedecimal, gnight ... farcaller is probably asleep now, he's +1 from me (Im GMT+1) Mar 24 23:37:10 ok, nite Mar 24 23:40:53 * flyback goodnight a.. Mar 24 23:41:06 * flyback goodnight all Mar 24 23:54:48 geezus christ, does anyone here know how I can possibly add this dumbass 'universe' bullshit to my sources list to be able to apt-get things that stupid ass debian can't find ? Mar 24 23:55:06 and no, as every google site suggests... I don't wish to install ubuntu... Again Mar 25 01:39:53 hey guys, i just saw something with the centro you guys do ;) Mar 25 01:39:59 i was wondering if you know how to recover the MSL ? Mar 25 02:23:02 * flyback is having a bowel spasm, going to have to run, sorry if I was in the middle of helpign anymore be back later **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Mar 25 02:59:57 2009