**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 25 02:59:57 2009
Mar 25 03:43:09 <flyback> http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7961000/7961224.stm <--- HELL YEAH
Mar 25 03:49:03 <Xedecimal> that's kinda funny
Mar 25 03:49:14 <Xedecimal> I want to see that news post that says "cdma support possible in linux"
Mar 25 03:51:03 <Xedecimal> I really want to fix this damn clock in debian too
Mar 25 03:51:46 <Xedecimal> "unable to set system clock"
Mar 25 03:55:39 * flyback can really appreciate the insane humor of that prank
Mar 25 04:23:58 <flyback> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq6u7Ft2gU0&feature=related# <--- yeah ()*@()*@)@@)( you bitch!
Mar 25 04:25:44 <flyback> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0Yyh2xNbqc&feature=related#
Mar 25 04:25:53 * flyback falls over
Mar 25 04:51:49 <flyback> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUDuPWRiRug&feature=related# <--- TAKE THAT COP! YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE!
Mar 25 08:01:19 <emfox> hello all
Mar 25 08:01:34 <Sleep_Walker> hi
Mar 25 08:02:18 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: hi, I'm using your kernel on my T680
Mar 25 08:03:05 <Sleep_Walker> lucky to hear that
Mar 25 08:03:13 <emfox> with debian-lenny root from alex
Mar 25 08:03:48 <Sleep_Walker> sure, good choice...
Mar 25 08:03:56 <Sleep_Walker> what problem do you have?
Mar 25 08:04:44 <emfox> the only problem's that, it seems usbnet module or anything other didn't work
Mar 25 08:05:10 <emfox> I cannot make usb0 to work
Mar 25 08:06:04 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: which kernel do you use?
Mar 25 08:06:15 * Sleep_Walker produced a lot of kernels
Mar 25 08:06:16 <emfox> I get the kernel from your homepage. maybe there's newer one's?
Mar 25 08:06:28 <emfox> the linux-arm one
Mar 25 08:06:38 <Sleep_Walker> that is the reason I choose filenames :)
Mar 25 08:06:46 <Sleep_Walker> zImage.T680.sw1 ?
Mar 25 08:06:57 <Sleep_Walker> or zImage-k27x-sw1 ?
Mar 25 08:07:00 <Sleep_Walker> or ... ?
Mar 25 08:07:05 <emfox> 2.6.27-rc1 , I think
Mar 25 08:07:20 <emfox> yes, T680.sw1
Mar 25 08:07:38 <Sleep_Walker> great
Mar 25 08:07:54 <Sleep_Walker> so that one is against current arm-devel
Mar 25 08:08:09 <Sleep_Walker> I didn't fixed USB there yet
Mar 25 08:08:09 <emfox> I type a little slow from upIRC on PalmOS , sorry
Mar 25 08:08:17 <Sleep_Walker> np
Mar 25 08:08:42 <Sleep_Walker> there should be added support for OTG (so it can switch between usb gadget mode and usb host mode)
Mar 25 08:08:48 <emfox> so which one I should use?
Mar 25 08:10:18 <Sleep_Walker> if you want as much funcionality as possible, http://sleepwalker.hackndev.com/kernel-2.6/ or http://sleepwalker.hackndev.com/kernel/
Mar 25 08:10:39 <Sleep_Walker> builds are for testing purposes
Mar 25 08:11:14 <Sleep_Walker> I'll put it into release page
Mar 25 08:11:31 <Sleep_Walker> but I'd like to have suspend/resume fixed
Mar 25 08:11:49 <Sleep_Walker> that's most PIA about Treo680 now
Mar 25 08:12:00 <emfox> funny, I've googled for two days and found your kernel-2.6 and have used it
Mar 25 08:12:16 <emfox> from irc logs
Mar 25 08:13:03 <emfox> that usbnet is ok, but /lib/modules seems broken
Mar 25 08:13:07 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: well, I don't like to call it "release" so I didn't make it official
Mar 25 08:13:23 <Sleep_Walker> you have to extract/add modules
Mar 25 08:13:33 <Sleep_Walker> kernel-2.6?
Mar 25 08:13:40 <emfox> Yes
Mar 25 08:13:45 <Sleep_Walker> extract modules into ext2 /
Mar 25 08:13:54 <Sleep_Walker> that should do it
Mar 25 08:14:09 <emfox> the modules from the same dir does not match
Mar 25 08:14:53 <emfox> it's 2.6.21hnd*sth
Mar 25 08:15:06 <Sleep_Walker> weird
Mar 25 08:15:07 <emfox> but kernel is 2.6.27
Mar 25 08:15:12 <Sleep_Walker> let me check
Mar 25 08:16:11 <emfox> thx
Mar 25 08:16:15 <Sleep_Walker> you're right :(
Mar 25 08:16:17 <Sleep_Walker> damn
Mar 25 08:17:28 <emfox> that's it.
Mar 25 08:17:35 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: what is exact kernel version string?
Mar 25 08:17:41 <Sleep_Walker> (uname -r)
Mar 25 08:18:26 <Sleep_Walker> damn
Mar 25 08:18:27 <emfox> I'm not on a PC
Mar 25 08:18:47 <Sleep_Walker> `uname -r' is meant on running Treo680
Mar 25 08:19:16 <emfox> and I can tell you two hours later
Mar 25 08:19:59 <emfox> but from my memory it's 2.6.27
Mar 25 08:20:00 <Sleep_Walker> I'm afraid, that I can do only some rebuild
Mar 25 08:20:11 <Sleep_Walker> I'm afraid it's lost deep in /dev/null
Mar 25 08:20:23 <emfox> pity
Mar 25 08:21:23 <emfox> I'm new to hackndev, but a six-years debian user
Mar 25 08:21:35 <emfox> does build a kernel u
Mar 25 08:21:50 <emfox> just like on PC ?
Mar 25 08:22:16 <Sleep_Walker> yup
Mar 25 08:22:19 <emfox> maybe I could do it myself
Mar 25 08:22:23 <Sleep_Walker> it will take a while
Mar 25 08:22:35 <Sleep_Walker> but not so long
Mar 25 08:22:41 <Sleep_Walker> it can be ready in 10 minutes
Mar 25 08:22:58 <emfox> so good.
Mar 25 08:23:07 <Sleep_Walker> problem is that I had some experiments with suspend/resume and I'm not sure in which state it is now
Mar 25 08:23:20 <Sleep_Walker> I hope I didn't broke anything
Mar 25 08:23:39 <emfox> I can get them after my class and test them
Mar 25 08:23:58 <Sleep_Walker> ok
Mar 25 08:25:13 <emfox> Ihave to go to my next class
Mar 25 08:25:22 <emfox> thanks and bye.
Mar 25 08:42:06 <Sleep_Walker> http://sleepwalker.hackndev.com/emfox/
Mar 25 09:22:35 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: hi
Mar 25 09:22:41 <Sleep_Walker> http://sleepwalker.hackndev.com/emfox/
Mar 25 09:22:49 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: try and tell
Mar 25 09:22:58 <emfox> wow~
Mar 25 09:23:01 <emfox> ok
Mar 25 10:09:21 <emfox> hello Sleep_Walker
Mar 25 10:09:36 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: hi
Mar 25 10:09:45 <Sleep_Walker> did it worked better?
Mar 25 10:09:57 <emfox> no :(
Mar 25 10:10:08 <emfox> the same as linux-arm
Mar 25 10:10:09 <Sleep_Walker> what was the problem?
Mar 25 10:10:18 <Sleep_Walker> the code slightly differs
Mar 25 10:10:23 <emfox> cannot find usb0
Mar 25 10:10:27 <Sleep_Walker> (since UDC got changed a bit)
Mar 25 10:10:34 <Sleep_Walker> do you have modprobed g_ether?
Mar 25 10:10:41 <emfox> ifconfig usb0 up
Mar 25 10:10:51 <emfox> cannot find the device
Mar 25 10:10:56 <Sleep_Walker> do you have modprobed g_ether?
Mar 25 10:11:15 <emfox> oh,no
Mar 25 10:11:26 <emfox> I thought that is usbnet
Mar 25 10:11:31 <Sleep_Walker> It is separated into modules because of switching between usb host/ usb gadget
Mar 25 10:11:37 <emfox> so let me try again
Mar 25 10:12:16 <Sleep_Walker> just modprobe and try ifconfig -a
Mar 25 10:12:22 <emfox> ok
Mar 25 10:12:29 <emfox> but hey...
Mar 25 10:12:39 <emfox> I cannot type '-'
Mar 25 10:12:55 <Sleep_Walker> :D
Mar 25 10:13:12 <emfox> :)
Mar 25 10:25:09 <Sleep_Walker> still problem?
Mar 25 10:25:12 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: hey! It works!
Mar 25 10:25:17 <Sleep_Walker> fine :)
Mar 25 10:25:27 <Sleep_Walker> please, test it more and report me problems
Mar 25 10:25:42 <Sleep_Walker> so I can mark it as stable
Mar 25 10:25:50 <emfox> usbnet with vfat modules, all work
Mar 25 10:25:58 <emfox> ok, I will
Mar 25 10:26:33 <Sleep_Walker> and - If you're six year experienced Debian user, you can probably create better keymap, could you? :)
Mar 25 10:27:07 <emfox> I've not think about it
Mar 25 10:27:37 <emfox> in fact I have just thought ask you about it
Mar 25 10:28:19 <emfox> maybe I could hack into it later
Mar 25 10:28:47 <Sleep_Walker> it can be done on userspace level
Mar 25 10:29:55 <Sleep_Walker> btw. Marex will work on Centro today, so there can be also some progress since it is very similar
Mar 25 10:30:00 <emfox> good idea, a char-map plugin? maybe...
Mar 25 10:30:54 <emfox> on what part of Centro? keymap, gsmd? or all?
Mar 25 10:32:22 <emfox> aaa, a silly question, hoho
Mar 25 12:39:31 <Na|L> |miska|: pocuj na http://auryn.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/oe/ mas linku na oe http://www.openembedded.com/ ma to byt http://www.openembedded.net, nie?
Mar 25 12:39:48 <Na|L> |miska|: pocuj na http://auryn.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/oe/ mas linku na oe http://www.openembedded.com/ ma to byt http://www.openembedded.org, nie?
Mar 25 14:38:58 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: ping
Mar 25 14:39:06 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: kong
Mar 25 14:39:45 <emfox> you're always here:)
Mar 25 14:40:27 <Sleep_Walker> almost always
Mar 25 14:40:34 <emfox> I've written a dirty but usable keymaps
Mar 25 14:40:36 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: what can I do for you?
Mar 25 14:40:41 <Sleep_Walker> good news
Mar 25 14:40:57 <Sleep_Walker> is it usable for console and opie, or for X only?
Mar 25 14:41:06 <emfox> I wonder where could I post it
Mar 25 14:41:07 <Sleep_Walker> I missed it quite a lot :)
Mar 25 14:41:17 <emfox> for console
Mar 25 14:41:40 <emfox> not sure if ok under X
Mar 25 14:42:08 <emfox> I haven't set X
Mar 25 14:42:32 <Sleep_Walker> cool
Mar 25 14:42:42 <emfox> it's under my ext2 part
Mar 25 14:42:42 <Sleep_Walker> console is needed more
Mar 25 14:42:58 <Sleep_Walker> you can have a look for keymap for Treo650, which is similar, but for X only
Mar 25 14:43:13 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: could you mail it to me, please?
Mar 25 14:43:54 <emfox> of course,  after I cleaned it up
Mar 25 14:44:30 <emfox> your mail? I'll send it ASAP
Mar 25 14:45:34 <Sleep_Walker> sleep_walker hackndev com
Mar 25 14:45:41 <Sleep_Walker> thanks
Mar 25 15:20:30 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: just sent
Mar 25 15:20:47 <emfox> it's a very simple map
Mar 25 15:21:17 <emfox> I'd add more key in later version
Mar 25 15:34:39 <flyback> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaSoz9KiCVY&feature=related# <--- THERE AIN'T NO ROOM IN THIS SPORT FOR WUSSY CARS, SO YOU GO TO HELL AND YO DIE!
Mar 25 16:08:45 * flyback heads to work
Mar 25 17:10:24 * Sleep_Walker finally went through all 1k e-mails from arm linux kernel mailing list, yay!
Mar 25 17:30:03 <primehome> hello
Mar 25 17:31:47 <primehome> ho knows about hydra 5.4
Mar 25 17:38:01 <Sleep_Walker> primehome: read topic and leave
Mar 25 21:37:55 * flyback hopes to finish one last project before his mind completely shuts down and probably won't be on irc as much to finish it
Mar 26 00:12:47 <mib_vt42aa> hello... a couple of questions.  what's working right now for linux on palm t|x, and how do I install linux on my t|x?
Mar 26 00:13:26 <mib_vt42aa> marex told me the other day that the wifi support (http://hackndev.com/node/276) requires crosscompiling -- I've got gcc installed, but I'm not sure where to begin
Mar 26 00:14:23 <mib_vt42aa> is there a useful page on the wiki?
Mar 26 00:14:26 <marex> if you dont know how to, wait for |miska| to make a release
Mar 26 00:14:55 <marex> make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=something {menuconfig,}
Mar 26 00:16:47 <mib_vt42aa> marex: thanks.  where do I get the arm:devel kernel?  is that at http://git.hackndev.com/?
Mar 26 00:17:03 <marex> arm.linux.org.uk
Mar 26 00:18:47 <marex> see RTFM.txt in the topic
Mar 26 00:24:03 <marex> what doesnt work on TX ... the internal flash
Mar 26 00:26:23 <mib_vt42aa> as in the internal 100MB of storage?
Mar 26 00:31:09 <marex> 1GiB, yes
Mar 26 00:32:13 <marex> actually, there is a driver for it, but palm uses some FTL layer on top of it and their own NVFS which noone knows how works
Mar 26 00:33:00 <mib_vt42aa> surprise surprise
Mar 26 00:33:05 * mib_vt42aa installs git
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