**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 30 02:59:57 2009 Mar 30 03:01:50 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huXKMhSjFT4&feature=related# <--- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE! Mar 30 03:47:25 Ok, probably been asked a million times, but anyone have a bootpack for centro? Just got one and looking to load something just to get started. Mar 30 03:49:01 they're all asleep Mar 30 03:49:01 :) Mar 30 03:49:08 4:08 Mar 30 03:49:08 time to go sleep Mar 30 03:49:10 :) Mar 30 03:50:04 ah :) Mar 30 03:50:23 Then it's time to dig around some more :) Mar 30 04:48:04 god, avg antivirus CANUCKED themselves with an update *AGAIN* Mar 30 04:48:44 lol Mar 30 05:00:46 * flyback is about ready to ditch avg after they just cost him starting on a project Mar 30 06:04:05 * flyback wonders how painful liver failure is as he starts pumping more and more painkillers till the pain stops Mar 30 06:12:12 * flyback grumbles as his vision gets canucked for a few hrs due to a medication Mar 30 08:10:38 good night ya'll! Mar 30 15:21:32 Sleep_Walker: hello Mar 30 15:21:49 emfox: hi Mar 30 15:22:08 I've tried suspend Mar 30 15:22:22 emfox: and? Mar 30 15:22:36 works , but resume didn't Mar 30 15:23:27 after type any key, it resumes, but file system get unmounted Mar 30 15:24:24 or similarly, I do not know what happen, any command return a "/bin/ls access denied" Mar 30 15:24:38 emfox: there is problem that I don't know SD_POWER GPIO yet Mar 30 15:25:03 cd to any directory is ok, but ls return the same Mar 30 15:25:04 but it seems that this GPIO is not set correctly in PGSR register Mar 30 15:25:39 emfox: do you have idea, which GPIO number is SD_POWER? Mar 30 15:25:57 I tried to track it in PalmOS, but with no success yet Mar 30 15:26:25 I know nothing about kernel level progamming... Mar 30 15:26:52 Sleep_Walker: hey there, don't want to bother you much since I'm at work, but I have a Centro and tried a kernel from Alex I found in a forum posting from like nov of last year, it boots fine and X and everything works, but after like 5 mins screen just goes white and pressing a key causes corruption on the screen, another person reported the same, know anything about that? Mar 30 15:27:13 Sorry for the run on sentence heh Mar 30 15:27:56 mekius: np, try newest kernel build http://sleepwalker.hackndev.com/release/T680/linux-2.6-arm/partition/1/ Mar 30 15:28:01 just a app developer and grave tester Mar 30 15:28:07 it's also for Centro Mar 30 15:28:14 just copy and boot Mar 30 15:28:16 Sleep_Walker: oh ok, will give it a shot later, thanks :) Mar 30 15:28:29 mekius: report me if it works fine for you Mar 30 15:28:38 Sleep_Walker: Will do Mar 30 15:28:45 Sleep_Walker: What timezone are you in? Mar 30 15:28:51 GMT+1 Mar 30 15:28:56 but night creature ;) Mar 30 15:29:10 there is minor issue that during standby - white screen instead of disabled completely Mar 30 15:29:22 but suspend-to-mem is more important now Mar 30 15:29:26 ok, I'm GMT-6 (I think, maybe -5 heh), but I'll leave a message here eithe way Mar 30 15:29:29 either* Mar 30 15:29:37 k Mar 30 15:29:44 standby doesn't kick in automatically though eh? Mar 30 15:30:07 simplier english please ;) Mar 30 15:30:38 emfox: it's one of my priorities - track SD_POWER GPIO Mar 30 15:30:52 currently I'm trying to prepare Qtopia Mar 30 15:31:08 (also my priority) Mar 30 15:31:09 Sleep_Walker: glad to here that Mar 30 15:31:25 Ah, I had seen mention of sw1, but didn't see a link to it in the forum so I was a bit lost Mar 30 15:31:29 I'm new :) Mar 30 15:31:44 emfox: well, don't be so glad, suspend/resume was one of my priorities too, but beyond my skills ;) Mar 30 15:31:58 mekius: sw = Sleep_Walker's build :) Mar 30 15:32:11 oh...it was late, that's my excuse ;) Mar 30 15:32:32 Sleep_Walker: my biggest hope is GSM now Mar 30 15:32:52 emfox: I already made phone call, there should be not much problem around that Mar 30 15:33:12 Sleep_Walker: What is the modules tarball? Mar 30 15:33:18 well, there can be issues with multiplexing GPRS & Voice, but it's userspace level Mar 30 15:33:43 mekius: kernel modules to be extracted to your root file system on Treo680/Centro Mar 30 15:33:57 they are necessary or just extras? Mar 30 15:34:25 Sleep_Walker: great, but what else should I do, instead of direct talk to gsm modem by minicom or gsm-tools etc Mar 30 15:35:14 Sleep_Walker: eg, turn on any gpios? Mar 30 15:35:29 mekius: well, it's common to have it, on the other hand I compiled in most of things to cooperate easier with unknown rootfs Mar 30 15:35:42 ok Mar 30 15:36:17 emfox: I don't understand your question Mar 30 15:36:41 emfox: you can try some GSM solutions Mar 30 15:36:43 I'm using raster's rootfs and that all seemed to work with the build of the kernel I tried the other day so hopefully can just go with that Mar 30 15:37:19 emfox: if you want to help - create alsa state profiles Mar 30 15:37:30 I mean, I use minicom to /dev/ttyS0, and no responce, Mar 30 15:37:36 ah Mar 30 15:37:54 I created simple driver exporting necessary GPIOs to /sys filesystem Mar 30 15:38:22 you can reset it in /sys/bus/platform/devices/treo680-pm/gsm* Mar 30 15:38:40 there is also GPIO for powering up amplifier (amp*) Mar 30 15:38:43 and bt* Mar 30 15:39:08 but bt doesn't have currently any effect since there is not compiled OHCI support Mar 30 15:39:33 yeah, that's what I'm searching Mar 30 15:40:40 do u know any about X ? Mar 30 15:40:55 X? Mar 30 15:41:19 very little - I'm user, not user space programmer :b Mar 30 15:41:21 I use debian-lenny root and, after apt-get upgrade, X didn't work Mar 30 15:41:28 weird Mar 30 15:41:34 I had it working quite nice Mar 30 15:41:58 that is, Xserver runs, and give me a gray screen Mar 30 15:42:22 emfox: maybe you didn't run your terminal with Mar 30 15:42:27 DISPLAY=:0 xterm Mar 30 15:42:28 ;b Mar 30 15:42:42 but xinit or startx just flash in a half second and return to console Mar 30 15:42:59 and logs say what? Mar 30 15:43:16 nothing EE or WW Mar 30 15:43:40 but at last there's a xf86TslibControlProc Mar 30 15:44:28 I didn't remember this word exaxly because I have googled it for twenty times Mar 30 15:44:40 :D Mar 30 15:46:07 Xserver runs and didn't crash, so I think it won't be case of ts driver or hardware related problems Mar 30 15:46:21 am I right? Mar 30 15:48:22 I can't say Mar 30 15:48:36 emfox: I tried Xorg and it worked, maybe I have somewhere stored my xorg.conf Mar 30 15:49:17 how can I run commands after 'Xorg' Mar 30 15:49:44 It just give a gray screen, even without xter. Mar 30 15:50:01 it's good idea to have window manager :b Mar 30 15:50:10 I use startx or xinit on my pc Mar 30 15:50:13 * Sleep_Walker tried WindowMaker and Matchbox :b Mar 30 15:50:34 emfox: because you maybe have something like .xinitrc Mar 30 15:51:00 run X, wait until it is grey Mar 30 15:51:11 run from console DISPLAY=:0 xterm Mar 30 15:51:35 I cannot get back to console ... Mar 30 15:51:46 that's the issue Mar 30 15:52:27 emfox: http://sleepwalker.hackndev.com/xorg.conf Mar 30 15:52:39 emfox: I meant from PC throgh SSH Mar 30 15:52:59 emfox: or try 'echo "exec xterm" > ~/.xinitrc' ;) Mar 30 15:53:34 ok, I'll try from ssh Mar 30 15:54:01 my .xinitrc is there and Xorg didn't care it Mar 30 15:54:27 xinit and startx may be care but they just crash Mar 30 15:56:11 btw, the gray screen has a cursor and works well, I think it's what tslib does Mar 30 16:03:57 bbl Mar 30 20:15:04 Sleep_Walker: hmm, my phone locked up when I tried to boot that kernel, anything special options necessary? Mar 30 20:15:46 trying again Mar 30 20:18:25 what does "locked up" mean? Mar 30 20:20:42 I've got about 80% probability to boot Mar 30 20:22:17 mekius: so.. did it work for the second time? Mar 30 20:24:25 nah, it says "Loading /zImage... 1199480 b OK" Mar 30 20:24:30 So just keep trying it until it boots? Mar 30 20:25:34 try it a bit more, please Mar 30 20:25:35 Sleep_Walker, try giving him latest build of cocoboot (that experimental one) Mar 30 20:25:44 right Mar 30 20:25:58 mekius: do you have latest Cocoboot? (checkout bootpacks page) Mar 30 20:26:04 I'm kinda interested in getting involved with this development stuff, I'm an embedded programmer for PICs, not quite as high end as intel though :) Mar 30 20:26:33 mekius: do you have CDMA? Mar 30 20:26:38 yeah cdma Mar 30 20:27:27 I don't quite recall where I got the cocoboot I have, but it was a recent build iirc, I didn't built it myself Mar 30 20:27:56 I don't have CDMA Centro, so I can't tell if it is not problem :/ Mar 30 20:28:01 ah Mar 30 20:28:06 they are pretty similar no? Mar 30 20:28:14 besides the modem and such Mar 30 20:28:22 mekius, tak the (i) in cocoboot main screen top right corner Mar 30 20:28:33 you'll see the version there Mar 30 20:28:33 k Mar 30 20:28:46 0.6.1 Mar 30 20:28:58 build on 03/28/2009 Mar 30 20:29:10 or 28/03/2009 for those in the EU :) Mar 30 20:29:13 marex.hackndev.com/cocoboot-xscale-mem.prc Mar 30 20:29:15 try that one Mar 30 20:31:09 the guy who designed the door on top of the sd card slot should be shot Mar 30 20:31:26 mekius: right Mar 30 20:31:55 the guy who designed the slot on centro should die Mar 30 20:32:07 yeah, it's horrid to get the card in and out Mar 30 20:34:09 I changed some GSM related GPIOs recently Mar 30 20:34:29 should at least get to console pretty quickly right? Mar 30 20:34:56 still getting stuck for me, i'll try again tonight to see if I can get it to bootup, seems others using this kernel had better luck then myself Mar 30 20:35:28 I'll prepare you another kernel to test after dinner, ok? Mar 30 20:35:36 Sleep_Walker: If you want :) Mar 30 20:35:44 How hard is it to build these kernels? Mar 30 20:35:44 I want :b Mar 30 20:35:47 ok hehe Mar 30 20:37:03 Sleep_Walker: when is dinner? Mar 30 20:37:04 :) Mar 30 20:37:22 just eating :b Mar 30 20:37:26 oh hehe Mar 30 20:38:41 dinner = food Mar 30 20:38:57 hm ... where are you from ? Mar 30 20:39:23 mekius: you can send that Centro and I'll have a look ;) Mar 30 20:39:51 Sleep_Walker: But I like it :) Mar 30 20:40:04 mekius: I'll send it back, trust me :b Mar 30 20:40:10 haha Mar 30 20:40:27 with a few wires sticking out and no battery cover :P Mar 30 20:40:57 mekius: I've got borrowed about 10 PDAs atm Mar 30 20:41:23 doesn't matter Mar 30 20:41:24 wow Mar 30 20:41:35 if you'll boot kernels, it's fine with me :) Mar 30 20:41:38 if it wasn't my primary phone I might :) Mar 30 20:41:46 yeah, I'll test em all you want Mar 30 20:41:49 we both gain :) Mar 30 20:41:53 haha! almost got you :D Mar 30 20:42:58 time to rise build number :b Mar 30 20:45:33 * marex goes to enter the matrix again Mar 30 20:45:43 for TE2 now Mar 30 20:50:30 good luck Mar 30 20:52:20 hm ... looks like TE2 uses really very similar loader Mar 30 20:54:36 feeling bored? :D Mar 30 20:54:42 fix LD wifi then ;D Mar 30 20:54:54 that's up to you Mar 30 21:01:56 I'm back Mar 30 21:01:59 TE2 suspend works Mar 30 21:02:21 with proper middle-loader it's easy ... Mar 30 21:02:29 I might hit an issue with TC though Mar 30 21:03:26 hm, maybe it's OK ;) Mar 30 21:11:17 |miska|: are you there? Mar 30 21:11:42 <|miska|> yes Mar 30 21:12:18 Sleep_Walker told me to ask you about building a functioning kernel for my palm t|x with wifi support Mar 30 21:12:52 enigme: I forgot that |miska|'s TX is in Marex's hands ;b Mar 30 21:13:00 oh... go figure :) Mar 30 21:13:07 but still is |miska| the right TX guy Mar 30 21:13:12 <|miska|> Ask marex, he's got my TX and he was the last one who played with wifi on TX Mar 30 21:13:28 alright... marex, are you there? Mar 30 21:13:31 so it will be up to me Mar 30 21:14:12 I'd rather keep marex working on bootloader stuff Mar 30 21:15:58 <|miska|> enigme: But either way, we are going to prepare this stuff for LinuxExpo (14-15 this month) so if you'll wait a little bit, we will give you precompiled and tested kernel in two weeks Mar 30 21:16:38 |miska|: great! so you'll post a kernel and rootfs for the t|x sometime around then? Mar 30 21:16:50 <|miska|> yes Mar 30 21:17:49 thanks -- I'll keep an eye on hackndev.com around then Mar 30 21:18:02 |miska|: 15-16th Mar 30 21:18:05 |miska|, cant you build it earlier ? Mar 30 21:18:18 * marex has 2 TXes here ... Mar 30 21:18:28 |miska|, I can give you back your TX ... Mar 30 21:18:39 wifi is working, suspend too Mar 30 21:19:38 <|miska|> And is is commited in either upstream or in hackndev git? Mar 30 21:20:11 <|miska|> If I'll get my TX back, I probably can Mar 30 21:22:50 marex: well the important fact is that you have also kEdAR's one now ;D Mar 30 21:23:54 yea Mar 30 21:24:07 with working touchscreen Mar 30 21:24:22 (and working cardslot) Mar 30 21:28:18 well, I'll idle in this room and see what happens then :) Mar 30 21:31:23 Sleep_Walker, just to let you know ... the palmtt3.c I sent you corrupts TTB so the suspend works, but it breaks the memory map Mar 30 21:31:59 marex: I haven't get to test it yet Mar 30 21:32:07 cooking, dinner, Qtopia stuff Mar 30 21:32:33 well, I'm going to class (it's 1430 in my timezone) but good luck Mar 30 21:36:11 mekius: uploading new kernel Mar 30 21:36:19 will be ready in 5 mins Mar 30 21:36:26 enigme, 23.30 here Mar 30 21:36:28 Sleep_Walker: cool :) Mar 30 21:39:18 marex: yes, I know -- when I'm out of class, you'll probably be in bed Mar 30 21:40:01 mekius: http://sleepwalker.hackndev.com/release/T680/linux-2.6-arm/partition/2/ Mar 30 21:40:04 try and tell Mar 30 21:40:44 anyway, I'm off... have fun Mar 30 21:40:58 enigme: same to you Mar 30 21:43:53 Sleep_Walker: will try in a few mins Mar 30 21:44:29 mekius: do not hurry, it's your last kernel from me today ;) Mar 30 21:44:33 enjoy slowly :b Mar 30 21:44:41 23:44 here :b Mar 30 21:44:49 http://marex.hackndev.com/palmte2-reference-pm.patch Mar 30 21:46:12 Sleep_Walker: :) Mar 30 21:46:12 that code is ascii-art inside bootloader? :b Mar 30 21:46:24 Sleep_Walker: will it work? :D Mar 30 21:46:32 mekius: who knows Mar 30 21:46:41 mekius: I commented out GSM related GPIOs Mar 30 21:46:53 so it might work better or even worse Mar 30 21:47:01 Sleep_Walker: is ee Mar 30 21:47:04 i see* Mar 30 21:47:06 I've got almost every time working boot Mar 30 21:47:12 but I've got Treo680 Mar 30 21:47:20 I tried it also on Centro Mar 30 21:47:25 and it also worked Mar 30 21:47:28 ok Mar 30 21:47:35 I'll test it out and let you know :) Mar 30 21:47:46 err, I haven't tried the last one on Centro, but you'll see Mar 30 21:50:09 Sleep_Walker, you mean those 160 bytes ? Mar 30 21:50:16 that's the wakeup loader Mar 30 21:50:32 I know Mar 30 21:50:41 but I'm trying to use my imagination Mar 30 21:51:26 use the source, link is on HnD Mar 30 21:52:13 Sleep_Walker, I upped new version, redownload Mar 30 21:52:19 Sleep_Walker, I forget the mmu.c changes Mar 30 21:52:23 *forgot Mar 30 21:53:04 you've got it mixed with Centro mmu.c changes Mar 30 21:53:30 marex: ^ Mar 30 21:54:08 I know, doesnt matter Mar 30 21:54:40 Sleep_Walker, download ... better ? Mar 30 21:55:06 I need to make a test drive on TC later Mar 30 21:55:29 marex: are you sure there is machine_is_te2() inside? it's not mentioned in patch Mar 30 21:55:34 now I need to do some stupid english homework guys at KJP thought out Mar 30 21:56:03 yes, there is, but that's just a reference implementation (ie. howto), now a correct patch Mar 30 21:56:13 I see Mar 30 21:56:18 ok Mar 30 21:57:11 anyway like this it shouldnt damage the RAM Mar 30 21:57:15 or the TTB Mar 30 21:57:41 I know, not using memory produces senility, not heart attack :b Mar 30 21:58:15 KJP are bunch of imbeciles, really Mar 30 21:58:36 they want us to make some "english-czech mathematical dictionary" Mar 30 21:59:11 oh, I remember that :D Mar 30 21:59:22 also they discriminate slovak students as they want it only in czech Mar 30 21:59:29 Sleep_Walker, you helped in doing that too ? Mar 30 21:59:35 I thought it was something new Mar 30 22:00:30 oh, creation of dictionary? Mar 30 22:00:48 hmm, it can be Mar 30 22:52:38 he forgot to tell me, if it works Mar 30 23:26:17 * flyback bbl Mar 30 23:48:33 ok, TC is working with it too Mar 30 23:48:54 so I did suspend on PalmTE2, TC and T3 Mar 30 23:51:56 http://hackndev.com/node/280 update Mar 31 00:56:10 * flyback wants to hear when he can dd if=/dev.zero of=DIskONchip palm os from his t5 PERMINTELY Mar 31 01:13:25 Sleep_Walker: ok, going to test that kernel now :) Mar 31 01:23:04 Sleep_Walker: hmm, this one seems to get stuck as well :/ Mar 31 01:26:43 mekius: please, try it again multiple times Mar 31 01:26:59 and - are you sure that you have latest cocoboot? Mar 31 01:27:37 well that guy earlier sent me one, assuming he sent me the latest :) Mar 31 01:27:55 hmm, still says 0.6.1 Mar 31 01:28:02 same version i had earlier today Mar 31 01:28:03 ok Mar 31 01:28:17 I hope he didn't screw anything :b Mar 31 01:28:24 :) Mar 31 01:28:30 let me try my old cocoboot Mar 31 01:31:41 oh wait, don't I need to remove cocoboot or something before using a new one? Mar 31 01:34:03 indeed, didn't do that before so wasn't using the build of cocoboot the other guy sent me Mar 31 01:34:10 of course it has an older build date then the one I had Mar 31 01:34:18 doesn't help the situation either so must be something with the kernel Mar 31 01:34:34 even if cocoboot doesn't disappear might there be messages on usb console?? Mar 31 01:52:55 mekius: I don't use USB console, I don't know Mar 31 01:53:13 mekius: sorry for not helping you Mar 31 01:53:34 maybe it's time to create your own build environment and start to experiment a bit Mar 31 01:54:08 it's 4o'clock here, I'd rather go sleep Mar 31 01:54:11 or I Mar 31 01:54:23 or I'll be sleepwalking whole day Mar 31 01:57:57 :) Mar 31 01:58:11 k, i'll dig around and see if I can build it :) Mar 31 01:58:16 easy to do on linux? Mar 31 02:00:34 to compile or to modify sources? ;) Mar 31 02:01:29 if I could do it, anyone can :b Mar 31 02:02:25 well compiling, modifying source I know how to do :) Mar 31 02:02:54 ok Mar 31 02:03:09 compilation is easy, when you have cross compiler Mar 31 02:03:24 obtaining crosscompiler can be easy Mar 31 02:03:34 yes - easy :b Mar 31 02:03:43 k :) Mar 31 02:03:44 gn Mar 31 02:03:47 night Mar 31 02:57:00 * flyback has just about canucking had enough of avg 8.0 and 8.5 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 31 02:59:57 2009