**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 01 02:59:57 2009 Apr 01 03:01:09 anyone aware of a mirror for http://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/kernel/git-cur/linux-2.6-arm.git? taking forever to get it cloned heh Apr 01 03:01:46 let the waiting.. begin Apr 01 03:03:21 :) Apr 01 03:03:22 aye Apr 01 03:03:38 Well I've been talking to marex and Sleep_Walker during the day Apr 01 03:03:47 trying to pull my own kernel and build it now Apr 01 05:00:59 I see no centro stuff in the kernel I grabbed from arm-devel Apr 01 05:01:11 Sleep_Walker: this is even after I applied the patch file you sent me :/ Apr 01 05:01:37 Do I just build for 680? Not thinking it will work then since when I boot 680 touchscreen fails to work which makes it useless heh Apr 01 06:48:02 mekius: you're right Apr 01 06:48:11 there is missing some revisions Apr 01 06:48:45 It looks like I lost some revisions during struggle wit GIT :/ Apr 01 06:50:02 mekius: Treo680 and Centro seems to be identical on HW Apr 01 06:50:38 mekius: and touchscreen problem - I have similar problem after suspend - I probably miss somewhere some important GPIO Apr 01 06:55:01 I'll prepare you another patch later today Apr 01 11:29:02 hi emfo Apr 01 11:29:03 x Apr 01 11:29:08 gone too fast :L/ Apr 01 12:04:34 I hope that increasing auto away switch from 4 mins to 10 will remove situations Apr 01 13:06:00 Hi, I'm trying to play m4a files on XMMS, and it doesn't work. I then tried to play a mp3 file and it worked, but the sound is now off (??) and I don't know why. I can't seem to find the volume control, can anyone help? Apr 01 13:10:09 try alsamixer Apr 01 13:13:43 .. I will... as soon as I my battery is charged enough to let me open my Palm :/ apparantly, Suspend mode drains the battery Apr 01 13:13:51 I found my palm dead this morning Apr 01 13:14:31 which is weird because it had over 40% of the battery still left Apr 01 13:22:58 on another note, can I simply install the package for XMMS Mp3 directly, or is it a special package? Apr 01 13:23:25 or, in other words, what is the compatible package distribution to use with the Palm Linux? Apr 01 13:25:08 err xmms-aac package Apr 01 13:28:29 ask author of your root file system Apr 01 13:29:00 we have no distro yet Apr 01 13:36:20 if you are interested in building distro, |miska| is the right choice Apr 01 13:36:52 Are you talking about distro with latest patches? Apr 01 13:37:23 Sleep_Walker: the light has come Apr 01 13:37:35 I'm talking about urspace Apr 01 13:38:14 hi emfox, I increased auto away from 4mins to 10mins Apr 01 13:38:40 Sleep_Walker: auto away? Apr 01 13:40:15 Sleep_Walker: poweroff? Apr 01 13:43:18 Informatic: no, I'm merely talking about putting a package on my SD card and install it via the package manager; is there a special package to use or a "normal" distro-specific one will do the trick? (installing new app/patches/plugins/updates/etc) Apr 01 13:43:42 emfox: nope, IRC autoaway Apr 01 13:43:55 I was gone for a while and you thought I'm not here Apr 01 13:44:15 for example, will a i686 library work on the Palm Linux? Apr 01 13:44:35 palm is not i686 but arm Apr 01 13:44:47 so any arm library? Apr 01 13:44:54 I think armel for debian? Apr 01 13:44:55 so if you're talking about binaries, the answer is no Apr 01 13:45:01 yes, arm works Apr 01 13:45:34 emfox: sorry, I don't understand you Apr 01 13:45:34 so both ok? I always use armel... Apr 01 13:45:41 Sleep_Walker: so, taking a library like xxxx.arm.so should theorically work? Apr 01 13:45:49 emfox: armel is for newer arm Apr 01 13:46:00 I think for ARMv4 and higher Apr 01 13:46:16 ok, I know then Apr 01 13:46:17 so the speed would be much better Apr 01 13:46:33 * Sleep_Walker feels surrounded by Ubuntu users :b Apr 01 13:46:38 the palm will still no turn on, after over an hour of charge Apr 01 13:46:45 not Apr 01 13:46:47 Yanick_: what palm? Apr 01 13:46:50 TX Apr 01 13:46:51 I'm pure Debian users Apr 01 13:47:00 emfox: I know Apr 01 13:47:09 emfox: it wasn't about you Apr 01 13:47:17 I've got 2 discussions through jabber today Apr 01 13:47:18 :) Apr 01 13:47:33 Yanick_: I think you were trying to use reboot, i'm sure? ;) Apr 01 13:47:36 Sleep_Walker: I put the linux under "Suspend" mode last night with over 40% of the battery and i found it dead this morning. Connecting it to the AC adapter for over an hour and it still won't turn on Apr 01 13:47:40 Yanick_: TX has problem that it has no reset button Apr 01 13:47:44 Informatic: I did not such a thing Apr 01 13:48:15 Sleep_Walker: what about the button at the back (need to be pressed with the stylo? Apr 01 13:48:28 Yanick_: I don't know Apr 01 13:48:35 I never have TX Apr 01 13:48:48 I had the same thing with my TX. I left it for 7 days with charger pluged into connector, but not to the power supply. Apr 01 13:48:52 And it worked. Apr 01 13:48:58 but I know about some issue with desoldering battery or waiting few days Apr 01 13:49:50 emfox: were you successful in chat with GSM? Apr 01 13:49:52 Sleep_Walker: lol... pretty radical solution Apr 01 13:50:05 Yanick_: I think that in this "crash mode" Palm's battery drain faster. Apr 01 13:50:14 Sleep_Walker: Yes Apr 01 13:50:15 [sorry for my ugly english ;p] Apr 01 13:50:27 Informatic: well, I'll will try to leave it chargin the whole day if necessary. Because it's no use to me dead anyway :) Apr 01 13:50:27 Yanick_: Marex has TX with very special "hardware upgade" because of this :b Apr 01 13:50:28 and in fact, audio also works Apr 01 13:50:44 emfox: I told you :b Apr 01 13:51:10 everything works in a charm Apr 01 13:51:12 Yanick_: you'd better wait until battery discharge, would you? Apr 01 13:51:27 emfox: I have to tell that your map works too! Apr 01 13:51:33 Sleep_Walker, Informatic: thanks for these infos. I'll avoid suspend mode (and choose Shut down) next time Apr 01 13:51:36 it needed restart of whole OPIE Apr 01 13:51:47 emfox: I put it into some RC script Apr 01 13:52:02 Yanick_: if you have issues with suspend - ask marex Apr 01 13:52:29 Sleep_Walker: how it works Apr 01 13:52:46 Sleep_Walker: well, I don't "know" any issue, I suspect the battery drained and the power button was left "locked" or something, I don't know Apr 01 13:53:23 Yanick_: ok Apr 01 13:53:29 you'll see Apr 01 13:53:40 ... in a few hours Apr 01 13:53:46 emfox: audio? or what? Apr 01 13:54:05 emfox: sorry, but shorter sentence you write, more question I have to ask Apr 01 13:54:44 Sleep_Walker: I mean, how you made the map to work Apr 01 13:55:30 loadkmap < treo680.busybox.kmap Apr 01 13:55:32 restart OPIE Apr 01 13:56:03 yes, it's the right way Apr 01 13:56:19 well, I don't see any reasons for restarts :b Apr 01 13:56:25 OPIE != Windows :b Apr 01 13:56:55 busybox may differ from normal console-tools Apr 01 13:57:03 I must admit Apr 01 13:57:09 it surely differs Apr 01 13:57:25 400 kb binary and what it can provide :) Apr 01 13:57:35 gotta go now Apr 01 13:57:53 byebye Apr 01 13:57:57 I'm heading to release party of SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 ;) Apr 01 13:58:22 great activity :) Apr 01 13:58:41 brain relax after damage caused by bugs :b Apr 01 13:59:06 have a good time Apr 01 14:01:39 too late :E Apr 01 14:04:13 bye Apr 01 16:28:44 * flyback absolutely positively !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*HATES*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! april 1st and all the MOTHERCANUCKING 24 hrs of useless news Apr 01 16:53:47 * flyback calls off work due to still being damn sick and miserable Apr 01 16:54:49 flyback: you do a lot of things, but don't talk often :P Apr 01 17:08:03 marex: afternoon :) Apr 01 17:08:12 hi Apr 01 17:08:20 mekius: good morning :P Apr 01 17:08:24 so went to build the kernel last night and apparently didn't get a full patch set Apr 01 17:11:19 how come ? Apr 01 17:11:22 so sleep_walker is suppose to update that and send me a new copy :) Apr 01 17:11:29 well the centro stuff wasn't in there Apr 01 17:12:26 also said he had issues with touchscreen after suspend, something with gpios probably, so he's going to get back to me later today he said Apr 01 17:12:45 but it's already 6 or 7 where he is :) Apr 01 17:13:01 Hey guys. Apr 01 17:13:09 You guys know how to install OpenMoko for mobiles ? Apr 01 17:21:46 marex: I did find instructions on how to do the cross compile and such though so I should be set as soon as I get a full patch, he said that he had some issues with git and didn't get all the revisions or something Apr 01 17:21:54 I have to say, I hate git :) Apr 01 17:24:49 git is the best VCS I ever used Apr 01 17:25:04 (and I used many) Apr 01 17:25:30 meh, i still like the cvs/svn style Apr 01 17:25:37 I find merging things just much less time consuming Apr 01 17:25:48 not to mention I always know where the latest version is heh Apr 01 17:26:17 If someone fixed something, that fix is in 1 repo in a central location, not on his repo in far far away land Apr 01 17:29:11 mekius, can you merge other trees, manage branches really fast, do offline commits etc. with SVN ? Apr 01 17:29:49 can you generate patchset with just one command with svn without commiting anything to the main repository ? Apr 01 17:32:43 I can create the patchset afaik and I don't really care to do any of the other stuff heh Apr 01 17:39:05 mekius, well you might not, since you probably dont maintain any bigger project Apr 01 17:39:59 I work with with the Enlightenment project which is quite expansive, find no need for git heh Apr 01 17:40:27 A checkout of the E svn is larger then the kernel svn with probably a similar amount of code that most people don't touch Apr 01 17:40:44 kernel git rather Apr 01 17:44:39 anyway, not important heh Apr 01 17:45:14 it's like fighting over brands of soap when they all get you clean heh Apr 01 17:48:28 well just admin that svn has it's limitations Apr 01 17:48:39 that's why linux kernel never used SVN also Apr 01 17:49:15 E can be maintained centrally I guess ... linux kernel has many trees on many different places ... and you need to merge them Apr 01 17:49:25 you just cant do that with svn Apr 01 17:51:11 yes I agree, it has it's limitations Apr 01 17:53:34 I can't say I have as much exp with hg/git as I do with svn, but my experience thus far haven't been too good heh Apr 01 17:53:44 anyway ... that's the problem with the patchset you got ? Apr 01 17:53:55 yeah, didn't have all the patches Apr 01 17:54:07 dont you need just one ? Apr 01 17:54:10 so he said he'd send me a new patch later today, hopefully he comes back on :D Apr 01 17:54:27 well yeah, just one patch would be great against the latest arm-devel Apr 01 17:54:33 hmm ... as you can see, git can be a problem if you cant use it Apr 01 17:54:44 he sent me a single patch, but it didn't contain all the changes in the hnd linux-2.6 tree I guess Apr 01 17:55:07 why do you think so? Apr 01 17:55:17 cause he told me so :) Apr 01 17:55:47 http://pastebin.com/d2879111f :) Apr 01 17:56:41 I didn't actually build the kernel with the patches he sent, my comment about 680 was based on the other kernels I've tried Apr 01 17:56:46 anyway, lunch time Apr 01 19:40:17 good release party :b Apr 01 19:41:25 Sleep_Walker: release of what? Apr 01 19:41:40 SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 Apr 01 19:41:44 ah Apr 01 19:41:49 they have parties for that? Apr 01 19:41:59 we have parties for that Apr 01 19:42:10 haha, I see Apr 01 19:42:22 developers celebrates that now the work will be covered by someone else :) Apr 01 19:42:28 haha Apr 01 19:42:33 So you work on SuSE? Apr 01 19:42:36 yup Apr 01 19:42:42 oh ok, now it makes sense :) Apr 01 19:42:54 That is definitely worth a party then :) Apr 01 19:43:02 yup Apr 01 19:43:54 * Sleep_Walker now hopefully have sources like he has before git pull with conflicts Apr 01 19:44:14 aye, I would love to build my own kernels :D Apr 01 19:44:46 SD_POWER candidate is GPIO 42 Apr 01 19:45:03 but I'm still missing one important one - touchscreen Apr 01 19:45:05 don't these chips have datasheets we can look at? Apr 01 19:45:19 yes, touchscreen is kinda useful hehe Apr 01 19:45:29 mekius: find one in legal way and I have a look ;) Apr 01 19:45:36 ah, intel keeps them under nda? Apr 01 19:45:38 mekius: touchscreen works until suspend Apr 01 19:45:47 intel sold it to marvell Apr 01 19:45:51 I see Apr 01 19:45:58 So it's not really an intel chip anymore? Apr 01 19:46:01 hopefully you can still have it from Intel times Apr 01 19:46:20 Actually I was wondering how an arm kernel worked on an intel micro last night :P Apr 01 19:46:29 but you don't know how it is connected in PDA Apr 01 19:46:38 Well I don't have the datasheets, figured they would have those available Apr 01 19:46:45 Tis true Apr 01 19:46:56 But sometimes certain pins are setup to do certain things :) Apr 01 19:47:16 So do you normally just watch the state of the pins as you press stuff to figure out what does what? Apr 01 19:47:31 Sleep_Walker, wild guess ... TS ~~ GPIO 27 ? Apr 01 19:47:36 haha Apr 01 19:47:40 marex: very wild one Apr 01 19:47:45 yea Apr 01 19:47:48 Sleep_Walker: Ok, so if I don't suspend, the touchscreen should work, got it :) Apr 01 19:47:48 it's power for amplifier :) Apr 01 19:47:55 lol Apr 01 19:48:08 mekius: because it's set up on palmos Apr 01 19:48:08 try changing it's direction, it might still be it ;D Apr 01 19:48:18 How does one suspend anyway? Like suspending in the same fashion I would do with my laptop? Apr 01 19:48:23 marex: geez Apr 01 19:48:30 just joking Apr 01 19:48:32 anyway Apr 01 19:48:34 haha Apr 01 19:48:39 mekius: ask marex, he's now suspend guru Apr 01 19:48:42 Sleep_Walker, the touchscreen will have IRQ set Apr 01 19:48:59 marex: you're too naive :D Apr 01 19:49:06 do you think it's polling ? Apr 01 19:49:08 marex: palmos driver will just poll Apr 01 19:49:16 gross :P Apr 01 19:49:17 maybe they improved Apr 01 19:49:31 marex: well, I tracked it in T3, they had enough time :b Apr 01 19:49:46 it wouldn't be hard to find it though Apr 01 19:50:36 opening the device doesn't help? Apr 01 19:51:02 mekius: I'm not skilled in this way Apr 01 19:51:22 mekius: let me work now for a bit :b Apr 01 19:51:44 ok hehe :) Apr 01 19:51:47 mekius, he'd use hammer to open it ... snua was good at such stuff though Apr 01 19:52:04 what is this single pin used for? Apr 01 19:52:12 or is it a whole port? Apr 01 19:53:57 marex: I can open, close, remove battery Apr 01 19:54:08 but soldering or measuring is big no no Apr 01 19:54:15 I damaged my Treo680 because of that :b Apr 01 19:55:36 I wouldn't solder anything either, but measuring I can't imagine would be terribly dangerous if the device is off Apr 01 19:55:49 mostly just trying to find what's connected to what pin Apr 01 19:55:55 it's gotta be on Apr 01 19:56:03 do you know what BGA is ? Apr 01 19:56:15 oh heh Apr 01 19:56:21 yeah, that ain't happening :P Apr 01 19:56:39 I figured pin based, bga sucks Apr 01 19:56:51 I guess it keeps you from playing with the pins heh Apr 01 19:57:01 why would it ? Apr 01 19:57:07 of course those pins still have to come out somewhere Apr 01 19:57:09 you can tinker with it using software ways Apr 01 19:57:14 sure Apr 01 19:57:25 BGA = ball grid array aye? Apr 01 19:57:42 ball grid array, yes Apr 01 19:58:43 weird Apr 01 19:58:53 I can't see any GPIO Apr 01 19:59:01 doh Apr 01 19:59:04 I remember I already tried to find it Apr 01 19:59:32 0taps and 3taps http://sleepwalker.hackndev.com/GPIO Apr 01 19:59:59 it might not be connected at all Apr 01 20:00:24 I can feel how that polling slows down whole system :/ Apr 01 20:00:33 really ? Apr 01 20:00:47 yes Apr 01 20:01:04 for i in gpio11[0-9]; do echo -n "$i - " ; cat "$i"/value; done Apr 01 20:01:19 it should show at most 10 GPIOS Apr 01 20:01:46 and difference between touching and not touching is about 15%? Apr 01 20:02:03 marex: btw. I spoke with |miska| today Apr 01 20:02:17 marex: he'll join us on our HackWeekEnd :) Apr 01 20:02:34 and about building, next week he'll work on that Apr 01 20:02:39 fine ... he can order us food and drinks, serve then and pay for them Apr 01 20:02:55 marex: you're as kind as usual Apr 01 20:03:09 this week he works on his and m4r3k's presentation Apr 01 20:03:17 I should work on it too Apr 01 20:03:41 btw I checked TTB integrity after suspend and it's all ok Apr 01 20:05:48 good! Apr 01 20:06:27 I miss our bot here :/ Apr 01 20:06:49 you mean Belldandy ? Apr 01 20:07:02 Bellwhore wasn't good name Apr 01 20:07:10 any suppybot Apr 01 20:07:29 I think I'll add one Apr 01 20:07:35 well zabor is down so there's no suitable hosting Apr 01 20:07:53 Sleep_Walker, remember you cant run a bot at hackndev.com server Apr 01 20:08:09 I've got computer at work with 24/7 readiness Apr 01 20:08:28 marex: btw. why? Apr 01 20:08:49 (I hadn't thor in mind - to slow :b ) Apr 01 20:09:02 see vpslink rules Apr 01 20:11:17 geez Apr 01 20:11:20 rules rules Apr 01 20:11:41 marex: btw. Pavel Machek offered me RTG to use :D Apr 01 20:12:01 you mean XRay ? what for ? Apr 01 20:12:05 reverse engineering ;D Apr 01 20:12:07 XRaying the device ? Apr 01 20:12:10 jeez Apr 01 20:12:17 he has now G1 Apr 01 20:12:31 where did you met him ? Apr 01 20:13:25 btw isnt it easier to just take some broken device apart ? Apr 01 20:15:11 marex: board can have some connections inside Apr 01 20:15:18 release party Apr 01 20:15:26 he worked for SUSE for long time Apr 01 20:16:24 Im thinking of asking him to by oponent for my bachelors thesis Apr 01 20:16:32 s/by/be/ Apr 01 20:18:30 weird! Apr 01 20:18:44 Suspend/resume works only on one Treo680 of two Apr 01 20:19:00 time to find more pins :D Apr 01 20:19:02 the broken one has problems Apr 01 20:19:12 mekius: maybe for less :b Apr 01 20:19:17 hehe Apr 01 20:19:42 geez Apr 01 20:19:55 Sleep_Walker, compare the loaders Apr 01 20:20:20 ipl? Apr 01 20:20:47 give me a way, how to dump it Apr 01 20:21:05 but good idea Apr 01 20:21:14 one has euro sign, second has dollar sign Apr 01 20:22:12 geez Apr 01 20:22:50 which of them does boot ? ;D Apr 01 20:23:06 oe@auryn ... there should be some precompiled binary of dumprom Apr 01 20:23:23 marex: both boots Apr 01 20:23:38 * flyback still hates MOTHERCANUCKING APRIL CANUCKING FOOLS AND STUPID 24 CANUCKING HRS OF STUPID CANUCKING FAKE WORTHLESS NEWS SITES Apr 01 20:23:39 gimme a second Apr 01 20:23:50 flyback: stfu Apr 01 20:24:20 * flyback bites marex Apr 01 20:24:21 * Sleep_Walker feels overcannucked by flyback Apr 01 20:24:28 * flyback bites Sleep_Walker Apr 01 20:24:56 good old kickin' times? :b Apr 01 20:25:13 I just felt like it'd help this time Apr 01 20:25:16 marex: btw. do you have still shortcut ? :) Apr 01 20:25:23 btw. cannuck = cannadian ? Apr 01 20:25:29 yup Apr 01 20:25:31 tr -s "n" Apr 01 20:25:41 hm Apr 01 20:25:41 but he uses it for whole universe Apr 01 20:25:52 well he doesnt know anything other than USA Apr 01 20:26:07 or maybe he knows only his near surroundings Apr 01 20:26:32 who knows Apr 01 20:26:43 but I'm pretty sure he'll fly back soon :b Apr 01 20:26:54 I find it funny that he just does /me actions more then actual talking heh Apr 01 20:27:09 Sleep_Walker: sigh... :P Apr 01 20:27:41 hm, GPIO42 doesn't fix problem with SD_POWER I think Apr 01 20:35:12 btw. PalmOS has "funny" bug Apr 01 20:35:23 when inserting card without /palm dir Apr 01 20:37:05 hmm Apr 01 20:37:28 one Treo680 suspends/resumes and then fails to read card Apr 01 20:37:39 second one just suspends Apr 01 20:37:48 red led is on Apr 01 20:37:58 green led Apr 01 20:38:00 pardon Apr 01 20:38:06 and no way to wake it up Apr 01 20:38:20 I'll try also Centro Apr 01 20:38:50 but I'm afraid I should throw away that broken Treo and hack it later Apr 01 20:39:21 heh Apr 01 20:43:47 Sleep_Walker: Can you get me the up to date patch at least, maybe I can play around with this too :D Apr 01 20:44:02 I just need to be able to build a kernel for centro :) Apr 01 20:44:12 ok Apr 01 20:45:26 How are you looking at the pins btw? Apr 01 20:45:36 The states of them that is :) Apr 01 20:45:54 in palmos I use my GPIOeditor or haretp Apr 01 20:46:02 k Apr 01 20:46:12 in Linux I export it in /sys/class/gpio/export Apr 01 20:46:17 ah Apr 01 20:46:26 echo 24 > /sys/class/gpio/export Apr 01 20:46:36 and /sys/class/gpio/gpio24 appears Apr 01 20:46:41 what is the difference between haretp and gpioeditor? Apr 01 20:47:33 haretp is memory dumper Apr 01 20:48:03 gpioeditor is more user friendly and allows you to change GPIO settings easily Apr 01 20:48:12 unfortunately changes are behaving weird Apr 01 20:48:21 (but maybe because of my weird device :b) Apr 01 20:48:32 send me new treo680! volunteers wanted Apr 01 20:50:12 http://sleepwalker.hackndev.com/cumulative.patch Apr 01 20:50:57 gotta go now Apr 01 20:50:58 bbl Apr 01 20:52:49 thx :) Apr 01 20:55:44 Sleep_Walker: Where can I find, gpioeditor? Apr 01 20:55:49 --, Apr 01 20:56:54 hm Apr 01 20:56:59 Treo_Walker: hah :) Apr 01 20:57:02 it also resumes Apr 01 20:57:27 problem is attached usb Apr 01 20:58:33 marex: check patch, see usb pin definitions, please Apr 01 20:58:49 so having usb cable attached is not good right now? Apr 01 20:58:59 btw, how do you suspend/resume? Apr 01 20:59:19 mekius: minor bug Apr 01 20:59:27 Treo_Walker, ok ... once I set up supybot Apr 01 20:59:30 with red button :D Apr 01 20:59:36 Treo_Walker: Ok, I thought so Apr 01 21:00:05 marex: I owe you a beer for that ;) Apr 01 21:00:13 So not really a suspend as much as a turning off the screen? Apr 01 21:00:24 unfortunatelly, you don't drink beer :D Apr 01 21:00:26 haha Apr 01 21:00:34 some slovak guy I helped the other day fixing his ucb1400 issues does owe me one too Apr 01 21:00:49 Treo_Walker, yea Apr 01 21:01:17 mekius: it's suspend to mem Apr 01 21:01:44 try 'echo mem > /sys/power/state' Apr 01 21:02:49 well, when you boot :D Apr 01 21:04:01 oh I see Apr 01 21:04:23 well I know about that, so you just have something in the kernel do a suspend to mem when you see the input from that button? Apr 01 21:04:57 I'd offer you a beer, but you probably don't want an American beer :P Apr 01 21:05:28 in fact, OPIE handle button and run apm command Apr 01 21:05:59 mekius, can that still be considered beer ? Apr 01 21:06:15 mekius: send me one with your Centro Apr 01 21:06:21 marex: haha :D Apr 01 21:06:31 Treo_Walker: Well like I said, it's my only phone :D Apr 01 21:06:43 Treo_Walker: So can't do without it even for a week or two :/ Apr 01 21:06:50 mekius: I'll send it working (with empty bottle) Apr 01 21:06:55 haha Apr 01 21:07:04 mekius, come here with it then ;) Apr 01 21:07:05 Well hopefully I'll be able to get it working :) Apr 01 21:07:12 What else doesn't work on centro that you're aware of? Apr 01 21:07:16 Besides the CDMA modem ;) Apr 01 21:07:26 marex: I wish I had that kind of money heh Apr 01 21:07:59 marex: it would be cheaper to donate us ;) Apr 01 21:08:06 dunno, the only interesting thing was suspend Apr 01 21:08:23 Treo_Walker, well he doesnt want to donate so he can at least make long enjoyable trip over the pond Apr 01 21:09:30 I don't want to donate? Apr 01 21:09:42 :) Apr 01 21:10:06 Treo_Walker: I'll have to make sure OPIE is on my rootfs then if I want suspend/resume to work? Apr 01 21:10:34 non trivial ask would be CDMA support Apr 01 21:10:55 mekius: get opie image from auryn Apr 01 21:10:59 mekius, I only tested the suspend/resume thing from initramfs Apr 01 21:11:07 ah, so need a special rootfs for suspend/resume? Apr 01 21:11:26 mekius: no :E Apr 01 21:11:31