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Apr 22 10:27:37 <enigme> Sleep-Walker: ping
Apr 22 18:15:10 <marex> http://www.precentral.net/att-vs-pre-internal-document-smackdown-oh-no-you-didnt sh*t
Apr 22 18:15:28 <marex> looks like we won't have Pre here for a while
Apr 22 18:15:30 <marex> sucks
Apr 22 19:10:04 <slapin_nb> hi, all!
Apr 22 19:12:22 <slapin_nb> for err.. some architecture I need several toolchains installed at the same time, e.g bfin-elf, bfin-uclinux and bfin-linux-uclibc with bfin-linux-uclibc being main for applications, bfin-elf for some firmwares and bfin-uclinux for kernel. While I see it technically possible, what approach is the best for it? I mainly address STAGING_DIR_TARGET issue and some minor ones...
Apr 22 21:42:22 <notone70> good afternoon
Apr 22 21:42:41 <notone70> i just returned from jennings, mo
Apr 22 21:42:51 <notone70> the meeting went well
Apr 22 21:44:14 <notone70> sleep_walker, we have five units that will be in the mail nextweek. i did not have the time to retrive o the units before we departed. they are on route to us.
Apr 22 21:45:00 <notone70> the jennings community is excited about all of your participation.
Apr 22 21:45:06 <Sleep_Walker> good evening
Apr 22 21:45:34 <notone70> we will inform you of all of the new developments momentarily
Apr 22 21:45:49 <Sleep_Walker> it would be very kind of you
Apr 22 21:46:03 <notone70> as we promised
Apr 22 21:46:19 <notone70> we will also make donations to the cause
Apr 22 21:47:04 <notone70> there is a whole abondandoned set of palm projects here in the us will send links
Apr 22 21:47:17 <notone70> we have a lot of work to do
Apr 22 21:47:48 <notone70> the build successfully loaded
Apr 22 21:48:26 <notone70> we have placed the attachments in the /lib/firmware
Apr 22 21:48:38 <notone70> about to run scripts
Apr 22 21:53:21 <notone70> the president of quick-2-lrn will be in barcalona the second week of may. he is personally sending his thanks and appreciation. we will send a care package with him to connect with you guys either thru shipment or in person.
Apr 22 21:53:48 <Sleep_Walker> ?
Apr 22 21:54:04 <Sleep_Walker> sorry, my English is mainly technical :b
Apr 22 21:54:26 <marex> Barcelona isn't in Czech Republic
Apr 22 21:54:41 <notone70> i know
Apr 22 21:54:46 <Sleep_Walker> marex: really?
Apr 22 21:55:10 <Sleep_Walker> marex: it sound familiar :b
Apr 22 21:55:11 <notone70> he may do some travelling while he is over there
Apr 22 21:55:49 <marex> it's not even near ;-)
Apr 22 21:56:02 <notone70> i know
Apr 22 21:56:23 <Sleep_Walker> notone70: sorry, but I don't understand much - what was that all about?
Apr 22 21:56:33 <Sleep_Walker> feature request? bug report?
Apr 22 21:56:48 <Sleep_Walker> presentation?
Apr 22 21:56:56 <Sleep_Walker> meeting and idea sharing?
Apr 22 21:57:12 <notone70> we will be able to cut some shipping cost on whatever else we have to send
Apr 22 21:57:15 <Sleep_Walker> sorry, I don't understand it much
Apr 22 21:57:20 <notone70> all of the above
Apr 22 21:57:27 <notone70> not a problem
Apr 22 21:57:35 <Sleep_Walker> ok
Apr 22 21:57:49 <Sleep_Walker> how much it is?
Apr 22 21:58:06 <Sleep_Walker> shipping costs...
Apr 22 21:59:07 <notone70> do not worry about that
Apr 22 21:59:13 <Sleep_Walker> hmmm, I can imagine...
Apr 22 21:59:16 <notone70> we will handle it
Apr 22 21:59:26 <notone70> it's for the cause
Apr 22 21:59:41 <notone70> sorry about the confusion
Apr 22 21:59:48 <Sleep_Walker> no problem
Apr 22 22:02:47 * Sleep_Walker found http://www.quick2learn.info/ only
Apr 22 22:03:34 <notone70> the site is under construction
Apr 22 22:04:06 <notone70> it will go live with the new company logo and layout next month
Apr 22 22:04:38 <Sleep_Walker> how it is connected to university?
Apr 22 22:05:29 <notone70> the company is located in the technology center @ wayne state university
Apr 22 22:05:35 <notone70> tech town
Apr 22 22:05:49 <notone70> quick qeuestion
Apr 22 22:08:52 <Sleep_Walker> I see
Apr 22 22:10:13 <notone70> placed attachments in /lib/firmware
Apr 22 22:10:14 <notone70> ./ to execute binary
Apr 22 22:10:16 <notone70> error:
Apr 22 22:10:17 <notone70> /attachment-0001.bin: line 1 from: not found
Apr 22 22:11:08 <Sleep_Walker> attachments?
Apr 22 22:11:21 <Sleep_Walker> where did you get attachments?
Apr 22 22:11:36 <notone70> error:
Apr 22 22:11:38 <notone70> ./attachment-0001.bin: line:2 syntax error: newline unexpected
Apr 22 22:11:54 <Sleep_Walker> I can't remember I sent you something like that
Apr 22 22:11:58 <notone70> hackndev
Apr 22 22:12:00 <Sleep_Walker> |miska|: did you send it?
Apr 22 22:12:16 <Sleep_Walker> marex: did you send it?
Apr 22 22:12:40 <Sleep_Walker> notone70: you're trying to use WiFi firmware?
Apr 22 22:12:44 <marex> you seriously think I'd be that generous ?
Apr 22 22:12:54 <Sleep_Walker> marex: hehe :)
Apr 22 22:12:55 <marex> he can use cocoboot for it
Apr 22 22:12:59 <notone70> yes
Apr 22 22:13:05 <Sleep_Walker> marex: right
Apr 22 22:13:13 <Sleep_Walker> marex: the only proper way...
Apr 22 22:13:20 <marex> notone70, what's that "attachment-0001.bin" ?
Apr 22 22:13:21 * |miska| didn't send anything :-T
Apr 22 22:13:39 <Sleep_Walker> notone70: so, did you use cocoboot for getting FW from your PDA?
Apr 22 22:13:47 <Sleep_Walker> |miska|: ok, weird
Apr 22 22:14:31 <notone70> No
Apr 22 22:14:45 <notone70> not sure were to place files for cocoboot to see
Apr 22 22:15:06 <notone70> We do see the dump command
Apr 22 22:15:25 <Sleep_Walker> but you don't see result?
Apr 22 22:15:51 <notone70> correct so maybe we put the patches in the wrong place
Apr 22 22:16:04 <Sleep_Walker> patches?
Apr 22 22:16:11 <Sleep_Walker> what patches?
Apr 22 22:16:21 <Sleep_Walker> you should have:
Apr 22 22:16:29 <Sleep_Walker> zImage (Linux kernel)
Apr 22 22:16:34 <Sleep_Walker> cocoboot.conf
Apr 22 22:16:39 <Sleep_Walker> cocoboot.prc
Apr 22 22:16:42 <notone70> http://hackndev.com/node/276
Apr 22 22:17:00 <Sleep_Walker> optionally initrd
Apr 22 22:17:08 <Sleep_Walker> ah
Apr 22 22:18:09 <notone70> The directions were clear, we just didn't see the two files or Marvell Wifi FW
Apr 22 22:18:28 <Sleep_Walker> notone70: well
Apr 22 22:18:40 <Sleep_Walker> try to copy some file from RAM to SD card
Apr 22 22:18:53 <Sleep_Walker> (using FileZ or similar application)
Apr 22 22:19:04 <Sleep_Walker> you have probably problem with your filesystem
Apr 22 22:19:31 <Sleep_Walker> 1] FAT partition must be type 6 (FAT16)
Apr 22 22:19:56 <Sleep_Walker> 2] FAT must be created using 'mkfs.vfat -F 16' I think
Apr 22 22:20:07 <Sleep_Walker> maybe this will help you
Apr 22 22:20:39 <marex> Sleep_Walker, miska should prepare the bootpack
Apr 22 22:20:49 <Sleep_Walker> marex: what for?
Apr 22 22:21:01 <marex> Sleep_Walker, people are waiting for bootpack with wifi
Apr 22 22:21:10 <|miska|> marex: I alredy have it, just wifi can't load firmware ;-)
Apr 22 22:21:14 <Sleep_Walker> notone70: and don't forget to create /palm/Launcher directory or PalmOS get angry
Apr 22 22:21:35 <notone70> everything is as you instructed
Apr 22 22:21:43 <marex> Sleep_Walker, on TX, palmos creates the directory automagically
Apr 22 22:21:48 <marex> |miska|, where ?
Apr 22 22:21:52 <Sleep_Walker> marex: really?
Apr 22 22:22:20 <Sleep_Walker> by calling mkfs.vfat -F 16 with card in PC card reader
Apr 22 22:22:23 <Sleep_Walker> ?
Apr 22 22:22:34 <|miska|> marex: in testing on my web as it is not working correctly
Apr 22 22:22:51 <marex> |miska|, whole bootpack with instructions ?
Apr 22 22:23:01 <marex> also, you should probably reply to the people waiting for it
Apr 22 22:23:03 <Sleep_Walker> which instructions?
Apr 22 22:23:17 <Sleep_Walker> BFU installer do the work :b
Apr 22 22:23:20 <marex> http://hackndev.com/node/284 here
Apr 22 22:23:33 <marex> Sleep_Walker, yes, but you need wifi firmware installation script
Apr 22 22:23:45 <|miska|> marex: As I said, wifi is not working, so I'm waiting till I figure out what's wrong with it
Apr 22 22:24:04 <marex> |miska|, do you have the patch applied ?
Apr 22 22:24:14 <notone70> yes
Apr 22 22:24:15 <marex> it looks like linville forgot to push it into linux-wireless
Apr 22 22:24:19 <Sleep_Walker> marex: you can do it by hand
Apr 22 22:24:29 <Sleep_Walker> marex: or - you can use |miska|'s initrd
Apr 22 22:24:32 <marex> Sleep_Walker, that's not what most users want
Apr 22 22:24:37 <Sleep_Walker> it's not kernel version dependant
Apr 22 22:24:56 <marex> Sleep_Walker, what are you talking about ?
Apr 22 22:25:02 <marex> I dont quite get you now
Apr 22 22:25:37 <Sleep_Walker> marex: are you talking about 'cp /mnt/card_fat/*libertas* /lib/firmware/' ?
Apr 22 22:25:41 <marex> I'm just saying miska should slip in a script to install the firmware from card to proper directory ... as you can see, not everyone can do it by hand
Apr 22 22:25:51 <marex> Sleep_Walker, basically yes
Apr 22 22:26:04 <marex> and in case it's missing, print some warning with instructions
Apr 22 22:26:19 <Sleep_Walker> marex: well, initrd is currently in development
Apr 22 22:26:30 <marex> Sleep_Walker, well http://hackndev.com/node/284
Apr 22 22:26:31 <Sleep_Walker> marex: Farcaller today created repository for that
Apr 22 22:26:47 <marex> there are many people waiting ... it'd be good to release at least something as a demo
Apr 22 22:26:52 <marex> hm
Apr 22 22:27:36 <|miska|> Sleep_Walker: I'll step by tomorow if you're at work and we can discuss it
Apr 22 22:27:53 <Sleep_Walker> marex: many people are waiting for suspend/resume for T3 :)
Apr 22 22:27:56 <|miska|> And maybe run some tests
Apr 22 22:28:01 <Sleep_Walker> announced but never seen
Apr 22 22:28:15 <Sleep_Walker> |miska|: ok, I'd be glad and ready...
Apr 22 22:28:48 <Sleep_Walker> notone70: do you have another card?
Apr 22 22:28:50 <marex> Sleep_Walker, well you have the patch ... you can try it yourself
Apr 22 22:29:02 <Sleep_Walker> marex: I do not
Apr 22 22:29:05 <|miska|> gn
Apr 22 22:29:06 <notone70> we are formatting it as we speak
Apr 22 22:29:10 <marex> it's in LAK
Apr 22 22:29:24 <Sleep_Walker> notone70: OK, that's what I wanted to say... :)
Apr 22 22:29:31 <Sleep_Walker> |miska|: gn, see you tomorrow
Apr 22 22:29:35 <Sleep_Walker> marex: where?
Apr 22 22:29:53 <Sleep_Walker> I tried to locate it, but I didn't success
Apr 22 22:30:08 <marex> Sleep_Walker, use search
Apr 22 22:30:15 <marex> search for T3
Apr 22 22:30:31 <Sleep_Walker> hehe, good idea :)
Apr 22 22:31:40 <Sleep_Walker> marex: subject '[PATCH] PalmT3 support' ?
Apr 22 22:32:04 <marex> might be
Apr 22 22:32:09 <Sleep_Walker> the one, where your name appeared in authors suddenly?
Apr 22 22:32:16 <Sleep_Walker> I didn
Apr 22 22:32:25 <Sleep_Walker> I didn't get much further :b
Apr 22 22:33:02 <marex> Sleep_Walker, then remove my name with the suspend part as well
Apr 22 22:33:16 <marex> if you dont like it there
Apr 22 22:33:51 <marex> btw. we already spoke about this, didn't we
Apr 22 22:34:25 <Sleep_Walker> marex: I'd like you to push that fscken code into upstream and never ever tell me about T3
Apr 22 22:34:56 <marex> Sleep_Walker, well that patch isn't suitable for mainline yet
Apr 22 22:35:14 <Sleep_Walker> gn
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