**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 21 02:59:57 2009
May 21 07:51:44 <Na|L> hello
May 21 07:56:00 <Na|L> where can i find how-to fetch/compile kernel/userland for palm T|T3 ?
May 21 13:53:26 <markos[1]> hi there...
May 21 13:55:03 <markos[1]> is there anyone near the keyboard...?
May 21 14:08:42 <xMDKx> hey wowo
May 21 14:08:59 <markos[1]> hi there!
May 21 14:10:30 <markos[1]> xmdkx could you help me with a opie issue?
May 21 14:19:27 <markos[1]> hi marex, r u there?
May 21 14:19:43 <marex> markos[1], hello, yes
May 21 14:20:10 <markos[1]> hi, I got a quick beginner question
May 21 14:20:24 <marex> http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_started
May 21 14:20:28 <marex> this is the answer
May 21 14:20:55 <markos[1]> ok, that's my next step
May 21 14:21:14 <marex> Sleep_Walker, are miska's OE patches available somewhere ?
May 21 14:21:25 <markos[1]> not about code....
May 21 14:21:29 <markos[1]> i dled opie big from miska's testing
May 21 14:21:29 <marex> markos[1], right ... about userspace, ask Sleep_Walker or |miska| ... I don't care about userspace much
May 21 14:21:38 <markos[1]> ok
May 21 14:21:48 <marex> markos[1], what about opie big ?
May 21 14:21:58 * Sleep_Walker doesn't know much about that
May 21 14:22:14 <Sleep_Walker> markos[1]: what problem do you have?
May 21 14:22:16 <markos[1]> the root image...
May 21 14:22:17 <markos[1]> okay
May 21 14:22:20 <markos[1]> let me explain
May 21 14:22:26 <markos[1]> just booting with cocoboot
May 21 14:22:30 <Sleep_Walker> marex: I don't know
May 21 14:22:31 <markos[1]> can't drop the fw
May 21 14:22:40 <markos[1]> the wifi fwe
May 21 14:22:46 <markos[1]> so, cant set it up...
May 21 14:22:48 <Sleep_Walker> marex: but good idea to publish
May 21 14:23:15 <marex> markos[1], do you have latest version of cocoboot ?
May 21 14:23:23 <Sleep_Walker> markos[1]: I see, can any other application write to SD card?
May 21 14:23:26 <markos[1]> i dled from your page....
May 21 14:23:31 <markos[1]> 1sec
May 21 14:23:37 <Sleep_Walker> (did you use my install_script.sh? )
May 21 14:23:46 <markos[1]> http://marex.hackndev.com/cocoboot.prc
May 21 14:23:50 <markos[1]> dled from there
May 21 14:24:01 <marex> markos[1], I have no idea what version is that ;-)
May 21 14:24:02 <markos[1]> there is no "drop FW" option
May 21 14:24:11 <Sleep_Walker> http://hackndev.com/trac/wiki/Bootpacks
May 21 14:24:11 <markos[1]> ohhh, ok
May 21 14:24:24 <marex> run cocoboot -> tap the (i) icon in the topright corner
May 21 14:24:30 <marex> you'll see version there
May 21 14:24:34 <markos[1]> ok, 1 sce
May 21 14:25:25 <markos[1]> 0.3
May 21 14:25:28 <Sleep_Walker> XD
May 21 14:25:35 <Sleep_Walker> geez
May 21 14:25:42 <marex> markos[1], we have 0.6.1? now ?
May 21 14:25:42 <Sleep_Walker> long time no see old pal!
May 21 14:25:57 <marex> Sleep_Walker, have we ever released a 0.6.2 ?
May 21 14:26:14 <Sleep_Walker> you can compare revision number
May 21 14:26:21 <Sleep_Walker> it's in its comment
May 21 14:26:28 <Sleep_Walker> "afc11eb9a5cb97bacc6d0042175605617492274b"
May 21 14:26:57 <marex> Sleep_Walker, hm, I think 0.6.2 was never released because of MM bugs
May 21 14:28:04 <markos[1]> allright then
May 21 14:28:07 <markos[1]> in http://hackndev.com/trac/wiki/Bootpacks
May 21 14:28:13 <markos[1]> we have TX's cocoboot
May 21 14:28:19 <markos[1]> redirecting me to miska's page
May 21 14:28:29 <markos[1]> which isnt that newer... (dunno the vers)
May 21 14:28:38 <markos[1]> what's the attachment down there?
May 21 14:28:57 <marex> markos[1], try that one
May 21 14:29:04 <marex> the one on bootpacks page
May 21 14:29:25 <markos[1]> ok
May 21 14:29:29 <markos[1]> lets see
May 21 14:29:35 <marex> markos[1], it's the latest "official" (alias released) version if it was put there by Sleep_Walker ;-)
May 21 14:30:09 <marex> markos[1], anything that's put anywhere by me is in "prerelease" "buggy" "demo code" etc. stage
May 21 14:30:35 <markos[1]> ok ok...
May 21 14:30:35 <marex> (well ... anywhere but linux-arm-kernel)
May 21 14:31:02 <Sleep_Walker> yes, it may be interesting to try, but not surprising if it fail
May 21 14:31:26 <markos[1]> so, when you say "userspace", your referring to "ready for users"...?
May 21 14:32:00 <marex> markos[1], userspace = that stuff above kernel ... alias programs
May 21 14:32:17 <marex> here's even a howto for dumping the kernel http://hackndev.com/node/276
May 21 14:32:21 <marex> s/kernel/firmware/
May 21 14:32:52 <markos[1]> ok
May 21 14:33:41 <marex> markos[1], btw. don't forget deleting any previous version of cocoboot from the device before installing new one / running new one from the memory card
May 21 14:33:50 <markos[1]> ohh
May 21 14:33:57 <markos[1]> you caught me writing that question!
May 21 14:33:58 <markos[1]> haha
May 21 14:36:17 <markos[1]> the cocoboot there (with the "afc11eb9a5cb97bacc6d0042175605617492274b" line) is 5 kb
May 21 14:36:22 <markos[1]> can't execute it on palm
May 21 14:36:30 <markos[1]> r u sure that one is correct?
May 21 14:38:15 <marex> should be 41k
May 21 14:38:23 <markos[1]> ....
May 21 14:38:27 <markos[1]> its 5k
May 21 14:38:47 <markos[1]> could you email it to me?
May 21 14:39:34 <marex> http://hackndev.com/trac/raw-attachment/wiki/Bootpacks/cocoboot.prc
May 21 14:39:54 <marex> worksforme
May 21 14:40:01 <markos[1]> ok, 1 sec
May 21 14:41:43 <randfan> hi folks... playing around with cocoboot on Treo 650...
May 21 14:41:46 <markos[1]> so now i havo to boot 1st linux, and then from konsole, copy it to /lib/firmware, rtigh?
May 21 14:42:11 <randfan> and trying to get usb console working, talking to liux desktop
May 21 14:42:47 <randfan> anyone have basic info on this...
May 21 14:43:01 <marex> Sleep_Walker, ^
May 21 14:43:23 <marex> markos[1], see the howto above - dump marvell wifi fw first
May 21 14:43:32 <markos[1]> yes, then?
May 21 14:43:35 <Sleep_Walker> marex: I never used usb console
May 21 14:44:00 <marex> markos[1], yes ... read the howto
May 21 14:44:18 <randfan> baud rate, required kernel module (besides usbserial), other necessary steps?wondering about baud rate, required kernel modules (besides usbserial)
May 21 14:44:53 <marex> there's no baudrate on g_serial
May 21 14:45:02 <Sleep_Walker> marex: cocoboot usb console
May 21 14:45:08 <marex> iirc ... you just set something like 921600 or 9600 dunno
May 21 14:45:14 <markos[1]> marex: In Cocoboot tap menu -> Dump Marvell WiFi FW -> wait ... -> you'll get two files, copy them into /lib/firmware and boot.
May 21 14:45:18 <Sleep_Walker> randfan: IIRC there were some python script in tools repository, maybe comments inside or readme is near...
May 21 14:45:23 <markos[1]> how do I copy it to /lib/fw ?
May 21 14:45:42 <markos[1]> I dont have access to /lib/xxx from palm...
May 21 14:45:53 <marex> markos[1], use loopback mount or copy them from within linux
May 21 14:45:59 <markos[1]> should i boot to linux and then ... .. ?
May 21 14:46:03 <Sleep_Walker> markos[1]: or copy in linux as root
May 21 14:46:28 <markos[1]> ok.
May 21 14:46:51 <randfan> Sleep_Walker: thanks, I'll take a look at tools repository
May 21 14:49:33 <randfan> Is git repository on hackndev down?
May 21 14:50:16 <marex> randfan, yes
May 21 14:50:32 <marex> randfan, working on it
May 21 14:51:00 <marex> randfan, see dmesg and try connecting to the port (something like ttyUSB0) using minicom
May 21 14:51:40 <markos[1]> do you know if miska's kernel already has the wifi patch installed or should I patch it anyway?
May 21 14:52:14 <randfan> marex: tried exactly that
May 21 14:52:26 <marex> markos[1], no, it doesn't ... because he never applied the patch I sent him ... and I don't care about him
May 21 14:52:47 <marex> markos[1], it's his fault
May 21 14:52:51 <markos[1]> ok
May 21 14:53:10 <markos[1]> damn, low batt, no charger (I'm at work)
May 21 14:53:40 <markos[1]> well marex, I will read the getting started page.
May 21 14:53:56 <markos[1]> I'm willing to help
May 21 14:54:04 <markos[1]> so if I can help with the userspace
May 21 14:54:12 <markos[1]> and preparing the images
May 21 14:54:24 <marex> markos[1], that'd be great ... don't give up easily, you will surely meet many hard problems
May 21 14:54:26 <markos[1]> to be somehow ready for others to install
May 21 14:54:33 <markos[1]> sure...
May 21 14:54:45 <markos[1]> Im new to this so... be patient also with me.
May 21 14:55:15 <markos[1]> thanks for your help guys
May 21 14:55:18 <markos[1]> speak later.
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