**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 01 02:59:57 2009 Jul 01 09:01:10 Eg: no, rockbox yes, linux no. I assume it would be doable Jul 01 09:01:43 ok, that was a few days ago Jul 01 09:02:00 refering to linux on sansa Jul 01 16:19:21 http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=DRNAVG22GTZX2QSNDLPCKH0CJUNN2JVN?articleID=218102253 <-- wow Jul 01 17:08:19 good Jul 01 20:01:27 hey marex Jul 01 20:27:12 bluelightning: hey ... I have holiday finally Jul 01 20:27:29 marex: awesome :) Jul 01 20:27:35 I'm just updating my lappy and then I'll start hacking on uboot right away Jul 01 20:28:12 btw my build the other day failed due to lack of disk space (!) Jul 01 20:28:24 will have to restart it shortly Jul 01 20:28:39 haha :-) Jul 01 20:28:55 I'm planning to set up OpenBSD and OE build boxes Jul 01 20:29:00 maybe one PC actually Jul 01 22:03:48 bluelightning: kde4 is really ... ewwwwwsome Jul 01 22:04:24 marex: it's good now I think... things were a bit rocky for a while though Jul 01 22:04:34 (using 4.2.4 here atm) Jul 01 22:04:48 same here ... from debian unstable Jul 01 22:04:51 but 3.5 was better Jul 01 22:10:11 in a few aspects maybe I guess Jul 01 22:10:20 where are your pain points with KDE 4? Jul 01 22:10:45 yakuake doesn't work properly Jul 01 22:10:52 the transparency implementation here sucks Jul 01 22:11:08 you have compositing turned off I guess? Jul 01 22:11:11 it sometimes stops responding (doh) Jul 01 22:11:24 bluelightning: I have it turned on, but I'd like it turned off Jul 01 22:11:34 but maintaining the transparency Jul 01 22:11:38 it was possible in kde3 Jul 01 22:12:01 hmm ok Jul 01 22:12:06 not something I really used myself Jul 01 22:12:40 I can't have compositing on on my laptop, it's OK if the system is not under load but if it is everything gets really slow :/ Jul 01 22:13:12 I got the occasional system freeze with it on as well Jul 01 22:13:20 probably dodgy drivers on that last one Jul 01 22:13:29 I have nvidia :-/ Jul 01 22:13:35 marex Jul 01 22:13:40 I have ATI, it's not much better Jul 01 22:13:41 make sure it's not one of the ones that cracks and fails Jul 01 22:13:57 bluelightning: well ... that's true Jul 01 22:14:18 bluelightning: btw I'm also missing the on-panel mixer applet from 3.5 Jul 01 22:14:27 bluelightning: any idea how it's called in kde4 ? Jul 01 22:16:03 marex: what about this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Mixeroid?content=99778 Jul 01 22:16:15 primitive, but it exists at least Jul 01 22:16:41 written in python so should be easy to hack :) Jul 01 22:19:17 hrm ... Jul 01 22:22:02 bluelightning: one more reboot, be (hopefully) back later Jul 01 22:22:07 k Jul 01 22:25:38 hm ... seems ok now Jul 01 22:45:41 bbl, going to pickup meds Jul 02 00:20:32 night **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 02 02:59:57 2009