**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 16 02:59:56 2010 Jul 16 06:15:38 IDENTIFY [Logos Asectic] Jul 16 06:16:23 congrats, you just told us your password to nickserv Jul 16 06:16:30 lol Jul 16 06:16:40 whoops let me start again Jul 16 06:17:03 * Marex will steal your identity ... ph33R! Jul 16 06:17:26 fahhem: type the passowrd ... fast !! Jul 16 06:17:28 ;-) Jul 16 06:17:36 he's not registered Jul 16 06:17:49 so it wouldn't help Jul 16 06:18:00 so it doesnt matter since Im not registered? Jul 16 06:18:19 Dunpeal1978: no ... it doesnt ... what brings you here ? Jul 16 06:18:29 well, atrxdj1 may be a password to nickserv, but it ain't the password to this nickserv Jul 16 06:19:30 hold on I had some questions about some palm stuff Ill be back in sec. its been 2 years since I messed with irc, in fact it was when i came here..lol Jul 16 06:19:47 haha Jul 16 06:19:51 what handheld? Jul 16 06:20:10 fahhem: take it over ... it's 8 am here and I was hacking on android whole night Jul 16 06:20:15 I feel like a raped whore :/ Jul 16 06:20:35 android is such a piece of damned shit ... if I wasn't doing it for money, I won't touch it Jul 16 06:20:36 wow... i didn't know whores stayed up all night staring at screens :P Jul 16 06:20:52 you got a job hacking the android? nice Jul 16 06:21:06 i have a pre i need to eventually make an app or two for Jul 16 06:21:09 fahhem: part time thing Jul 16 06:21:31 cool Jul 16 06:21:53 not really a job either ... I just helped certain corp get it running Jul 16 06:21:54 that's all Jul 16 06:22:45 they're paying you though, right? Jul 16 06:23:21 fahhem: you seriously don't think I'd touch android for free, do you ? Jul 16 06:23:48 haha, i don't know much about the android Jul 16 06:24:08 fahhem: hm ... simply : Jul 16 06:24:52 google took gnu/linux ; removed everything from kernel<->userland interface onwards (aka. dropped 15 years of development) ; added their own bionic shit Jul 16 06:26:54 so the kernel's fine but the rest is all new to any unix coder? Jul 16 06:29:05 no, the kernel is heavily patched too Jul 16 06:29:10 it's disgusting what they did Jul 16 06:29:15 it makes me feel sad Jul 16 06:49:08 Alright, think I got it now.just installed chatzilla....so I am trying to boot the Familiar Opie (Marex) for Palm Zire 71 (I know its old,but its a goal of mine to get it running) and when I run Garux it says VFS: cannot open root device "mmcblk0p2" or unknown-block (0,0) Jul 16 06:54:36 oh my ... my past is catching up to me Jul 16 06:54:40 lol Jul 16 06:54:41 Dunpeal1978: I dunno ... try mmc card Jul 16 06:57:17 Dunpeal1978: the kernel is very old ... actually it might be over 5 years now Jul 16 06:57:36 Dunpeal1978: you should switch to a new kernel I think ... something was merged mainline, you can try that Jul 16 06:59:22 I bought a 2GB transend MMC, formatted it, made a vfat and ext2 partition in linux terminal, used mkfs.vfat, mkfs.ext2, and copied the files over into those new partitions in a linux terminal Jul 16 07:00:05 is the card detected at all ? Jul 16 07:00:08 I used the one you had here http://hackndev.com/trac/wiki/Bootpacks Jul 16 07:00:26 Dunpeal1978: well that one I haven't touched for like four years or so Jul 16 07:01:25 the palm detects it but says VFS: cannot open root device "mmcblk0p2" or unknown-block (0,0) Jul 16 07:01:38 tahts after i launch garux Jul 16 07:02:56 well kernel doesn't detect it Jul 16 07:03:22 "we appologize for the inconvenience, but the software and hardware you use is too old" Jul 16 07:03:27 I also tried with a lexar 512mb sd. but got a different error. I know Im so close. I have been teaching myself basic linux just for this sole purpose Jul 16 07:04:12 I was under the impression that some people have gotten it to work Jul 16 07:04:52 its not an inconvenience, this is liek a small hobby for me,the challenge is fun,and Im learning basics of linux Jul 16 07:05:03 it worked for most people back then with mmc cards of these days Jul 16 07:05:11 *those days Jul 16 07:06:01 well since Im sure you all dont like dealing with old hardware,perhaps Ill just retrace my steps and write down the exact errors and see what I can figure out on my own. Jul 16 07:06:05 Dunpeal1978: what's the time over there ? it's 9 am here and I haven't slept yet Jul 16 07:06:24 its 2:06 am sorry Im just starting my night Jul 16 07:06:53 ah you're also jetlagged ? Jul 16 07:07:31 well Ive been on a month long mission to install linux onto everything I can in my house Jul 16 07:07:39 ok, to compile mainline kernel (take notes, I wont say it twice) Jul 16 07:08:06 mkdir kernel ; cd kernel ; git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git Jul 16 07:08:10 Jul 16 07:08:21 cd linux-omap-2.6.git Jul 16 07:08:29 so far Ive gotten it onto a Dell inspirion 3500 ,dell inspirion 7000, a amd dectop Jul 16 07:08:44 Jul 16 07:09:00 ^ you can do that while git clone is running Jul 16 07:09:09 once you have the crosscompiler installed, do this : Jul 16 07:09:29 make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- palmz71_defconfig Jul 16 07:09:34 make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- -j 2 Jul 16 07:09:53 this will generate file arch/arm/boot/zImage Jul 16 07:09:59 I think you can try that with garux Jul 16 07:10:09 if you want to change any options in kernel, do this: Jul 16 07:10:13 make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- menuconfig Jul 16 07:10:16 make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- Jul 16 07:10:30 ^ run the other one to recompile kernel (Regenerate arch/arm/boot/zImage) Jul 16 07:11:17 you can pass kernel parameters like "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=10" ... that rootdelay is important, it tells the kernel to wait for the card for some amount of time Jul 16 07:12:52 I think garux can pass parameters to kernel ... if not, run make menuconfig and there's an option for that in "Boot options" Jul 16 07:12:58 it's called "Default kernel command string" Jul 16 07:13:29 you change that to "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=10" and also enable "Always use default kernel command string" to override what garux passes Jul 16 07:13:45 Alright, I copied and pasted the whole conversation into a text file so i can look it over and try to get it going Jul 16 07:13:53 thanks Jul 16 07:14:03 what distro do you use ? Jul 16 07:14:36 for emdebian, start here http://www.emdebian.org/crosstools.html Jul 16 07:14:42 you'll need gcc >= 4.3 Jul 16 07:14:51 well on the dell inspirion 3500 Im using ubuntu GTK12 remix http://kmandla.wordpress.com/projects/ubuntu-gtk12-remix/ Jul 16 07:14:54 err ... well arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc >= 4.3 Jul 16 07:15:15 to get git ... apt-get install git Jul 16 07:15:26 err ... apt-get install git-all Jul 16 07:15:35 if you need some help, ping me in 8 hours or so Jul 16 07:15:52 ok thanks Ill try and figure it out, sheers Jul 16 07:15:58 *cheers Jul 16 07:16:21 Dunpeal1978: it might be hard on you ... try not to give up and make me think I explained this in vain Jul 16 07:16:51 nope not in vain. I have other palms to hack after this Jul 16 07:17:01 Dunpeal1978: which ones ? Jul 16 07:17:09 maybe they're better to start with Jul 16 07:17:18 sure you want to know? they are old.Im working my way up to new stuff Jul 16 07:17:35 actually I don't care Jul 16 07:17:45 well I have a tungsten t, and sony clie peg-n760c Jul 16 07:18:50 thanks again for your help Jul 16 07:19:40 TT is in even worse state Jul 16 07:20:03 I know thats what sleep walker told me Jul 16 07:20:33 I know no one like s messing with them anymore,but to me Its a challenge Jul 16 07:21:38 Dunpeal1978: it's a good platform to learn something about hardware ... the CPU is very simple Jul 16 07:22:00 Dunpeal1978: and I seriously think the infrastructure in linux kernel can now make most of the hardware on TT work easily Jul 16 07:22:19 Dunpeal1978: so if you feel like hacking on the kernel ... go ahead ... the learning curve is very steep though Jul 16 07:22:26 well those are more reasons why Im still interested in doing it Jul 16 07:23:16 btw. I still don't understand why people go crazy and decide to flip over to linux from day to day Jul 16 07:23:31 but oh well ... Jul 16 07:23:32 gnight Jul 16 07:27:09 Dunpeal1978: ah and btw. the real hard core of hackndev also fell apart already ... you can still meet most of us, but we're involved in various other projects now Jul 16 07:27:58 farcaller in his iphone empire, me cooping with marvell, sleepwalker in suse etc. Jul 16 07:32:08 well thanks for the help and time anyways Jul 16 07:54:13 gtk1.2? people use that? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 17 02:59:56 2010