**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 15 03:00:01 2011 Jan 16 00:02:25 Man this room is so dead :( Jan 16 00:03:16 alas Jan 16 00:06:14 edude03: well ... does it matter ? Jan 16 00:06:50 It lesses my drive to develop for the TX though :( Jan 16 00:07:10 Oh btw Marex followed your instructions to build a kernel Jan 16 00:07:17 It panics after boot Jan 16 00:07:29 and it doesn't turn on the back light so I can't figure out what it says Jan 16 00:08:07 I can make out brackets and hex everywhere so I'm pretty sure its a KP Jan 16 00:09:11 edude03: did you build the kernel from devel-fix branch ? Jan 16 00:09:19 Yeah Jan 16 00:09:30 * enigme ought to try building a kernel for his T|X Jan 16 00:09:33 edude03: http://marex.hackndev.com/config-palm contains a valid kernel config I think Jan 16 00:09:49 haven't tried my hand at it for at least a year now -- I wonder if wifi support works yet Jan 16 00:09:51 edude03: and http://marex.hackndev.com/cocoboot.prc should contains some bootloader that works for me Jan 16 00:10:01 Alright Ill give that a try Jan 16 00:10:08 Which reminds me again Jan 16 00:10:11 good luck, edude03 Jan 16 00:10:15 Isn' the cocoboot in github old? Jan 16 00:10:18 enigme: there _MIGHT_ be some news about wifi .. I can't disclose the details yet Jan 16 00:10:34 edude03: I dunno ... I compiled it myself ;-) Jan 16 00:10:40 Marex, don't worry, I won't ask you to break your NDA ;) Jan 16 00:10:45 The source gives me the impression that its 0.4 when the latest I've used is 0.6.1 Jan 16 00:12:02 edude03: I use 0.6.2 iirc Jan 16 00:12:08 >: | Jan 16 00:12:38 but that might be some strange patched version ... use the one I linked, it recently booted on my TX Jan 16 00:12:44 I was fixing some things there Jan 16 00:13:05 OK thanks :) Jan 16 00:13:25 Most importantly do we have a proper way to debug the kernel on the TX? Jan 16 00:13:52 If I could get a console over USB or serial I would be very happy :D Jan 16 00:14:28 UART should just work Jan 16 00:14:34 it does on palmld, it's not different on TX Jan 16 00:14:44 but (!) it's a LVTTL (3V3) uart Jan 16 00:14:59 Yeah Jan 16 00:15:23 I'm used to that from al the routers I deal with Jan 16 00:15:35 That said I dont have an athena connector break out Jan 16 00:16:18 I managed to get two some time ago, dunno where I put the other one Jan 16 00:17:55 enigme: I'm not NDAed, it's much worse (well ... it's worse for Marvell, I don't really care) Jan 16 00:18:04 enigme: but I'd prefer not to make them angry ;-) Jan 16 00:18:18 Damn :p well I plan to get a serial cable of eBay and use that then Jan 16 00:31:59 Marex, fair enough :) Jan 16 00:51:32 Wifi in the linux kernel would ebe great Jan 16 00:52:06 Or I should say 100% working wifi without having to dump firmware and such would be great Jan 16 00:54:49 edude03: well ... I can't speak on this matter yet Jan 16 00:55:07 I know I'm just thinking out loud Jan 16 00:55:25 But it would help my goal of having a fully functional linux os on palm Jan 16 00:56:16 sorry to shred your hopes, but you won't have a fully functional thing ... ever Jan 16 00:56:19 I guess ... Jan 16 00:57:09 there's the wifi suspend-wakeup problem ... that'd be hard Jan 16 00:57:24 but other than that, maybe there are no other problems Jan 16 00:57:38 edude03: did you try compiling the kernel with that config and booting with that cocoboot ? Jan 16 00:58:06 Nope, I just got my linux box fired up Jan 16 00:58:22 And now I'm raging because I forgot I don't have working networking on it :/ Jan 16 00:59:56 not working ? Jan 16 01:00:26 I have a choice between a) flakey wifi b) flakey powerline networking Jan 16 01:01:05 The flakey wifi is better however I can't connect to encrypted networks (such as my own network) Jan 16 01:01:52 So I had to set up "guest mode" on my router to make a segregated network with no protection Jan 16 01:02:22 and even then wifi is flakier than it is on my mac or any other computer for that matter Jan 16 01:13:28 that's because the fw in palmos is partly incompatible with libertas-cf driver Jan 16 01:15:17 Hm Marex the wifi issue I'm talking about is on my desktop :P Jan 16 01:17:58 btw the palmtx wifi (in it's current state) can work with wpa_supplicant (or so I was told) Jan 16 01:21:44 wow kernel built in 4 minutes :D Jan 16 01:29:42 Marex: When its done the result should be in arch/arm right? Jan 16 01:44:21 arch/arm/boot/zImage Jan 16 01:52:03 edude03: what compiler do you use btw ? Jan 16 01:52:28 Yeah that's what I meant, for somereason that folder had a Image file that was 3.3Mb Jan 16 01:52:31 Didn't boot Jan 16 01:52:37 and GCC v4.5 I believe Jan 16 01:55:34 that's too big Jan 16 01:56:23 did you use mine config instead of your .config ? Jan 16 02:01:19 Yessir Jan 16 02:01:36 Though I answered yes to both questions : / Jan 16 02:01:59 Where were something about in kernel firmware and one about external firmware : < Jan 16 02:04:21 yea ... that doesn't matter Jan 16 02:04:46 do you compile it with make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- options, right ? Jan 16 02:05:45 mhm Jan 16 02:08:55 what ? Jan 16 02:09:06 did you -- by any chance -- compile x86 kernel ? Jan 16 02:09:13 or something ? Jan 16 02:11:41 I really doubt it Jan 16 02:12:35 the exact commands I popped in was Jan 16 02:12:38 *were Jan 16 02:13:50 rm .config; mv config-palm .config; time ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- -j Jan 16 02:14:11 err missed make before ARCH but you get the idea Jan 16 02:15:20 yea ... generally I do Jan 16 02:15:35 but it's strange you got 3meg big kernel Jan 16 02:15:39 do you use initramfs or something ? Jan 16 02:15:50 Oh yeah Jan 16 02:15:58 It asked if I wanted to build it I said yes Jan 16 02:16:38 well ... make ARCH=arm ... menuconfig Jan 16 02:16:47 traverse to general setup, disable initramfs Jan 16 02:17:25 First question was initramfs source files(s) (INITRAMFS_SOURCE) [] (NEW) Jan 16 02:28:40 edude03: you can disable the whole drivers/media thing Jan 16 02:28:56 Sleep_Walker: ping ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jan 16 02:59:58 2011