**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 26 02:59:58 2013 Feb 26 03:16:32 mozzwald, right, and arm920t is armv4.. so how do i know which one is the correct one since both are listed and not just one? Feb 26 03:50:16 anunnaki: the pxa270 datasheet states "ARMĀ® Architecture Version 5T Specification Feb 26 03:50:32 www.phytec.com/pdf/datasheets/PXA270_DS.pdf Feb 26 03:55:43 where are you getting all this information? Feb 26 05:07:12 mozzwald, i have the same information. im not saying its not, im saying the device lists both processors which come from two different families. so when it boils down to it.. which is it considered an ARM920T or a PXA27x? Feb 26 05:09:14 im getting mixed answers from people. i rather know its armv5 even though i have armv4-softfloat-linux-gnueabi already set up being that there is more information about devices with linux on them with armv5. this device is confusing me on where to begin Feb 26 05:21:39 anunnaki, the zipit z2 has a pxa270 and we use armv5 Feb 26 05:24:37 i guess newer would dominate here in this situation where it has two processor families listed. but why is that? Feb 26 05:27:08 mozzwald, i was told one is a manufacturers SoC and the other is an arm implementation... Feb 26 05:32:05 anunnaki: yes, pxa270 is the intel SoC and it implements armv5 Feb 26 05:33:39 anunnaki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XScale Feb 26 05:34:26 heh read that too Feb 26 05:34:34 i just did a crashcourse with ARM Feb 26 05:34:49 my favorite part was reading about APPLE workign with them back in the days Feb 26 05:36:39 and how it was orginally called Acorn RM based out in England then changed to AdvanceRM Feb 26 05:37:41 just confusing that my phone lists two families.. my first time cross compiling.. so im trying to make sure i have the right toolchain. i have armv4 Feb 26 05:43:39 anunnaki: armv4 compiled binaries should work on armv5 cpu but you'll be losing out on some enhancements. you should use an armv5 compiler Feb 26 06:25:34 mozzwald, what is this.. a patch log? 0, you Feb 26 06:25:51 http://lists.openezx.org/pipermail/openezx-svnlog/2009-October/001599.html Feb 26 06:26:12 i think im getting warmer on my hunt to findind what i need for this phone Feb 26 07:23:42 anunnaki: pxa270 is xscale, which is compatible with armv5, but it has additional crap in it Feb 26 07:23:46 like slightly different L1 cache and iwmmxt coprocessor Feb 26 07:24:40 it is not arm920 nor arm926 nor anything else ... it's xscale Feb 26 07:27:45 ok so now i just have to start googling xscale linux embedded etc and see if i can find info on linux projects Feb 26 07:28:21 the only widespread armv4 devices were I believe intel strongarm SA11xx ... that was older xscale core based on armv4, it was used in zaurus devices etc Feb 26 07:28:38 oh ... samsung s3c24xx were armv4 too Feb 26 07:29:06 someone suggested xanadux was used by all these older devices... and i beleive it uses linux 2.4.xx and the other project they were using 2.6...could i jsut start with the most reecent kernel or do i have to use older ? Feb 26 07:29:11 anunnaki: just download DENX ELDK 5.3 for armv5t and you'll have a good toolchain out of the box Feb 26 07:29:44 anunnaki: use linux-next of you're starting to port to a new device Feb 26 07:30:05 yes this will be new device. and first time porting Feb 26 07:30:38 i spent two days trying to figure out what toolchain i needed and to install it correctly. just to realize i installed the wrong one.. armv4 :( Feb 26 07:30:39 btw note Im now of a shuttlebus to a tradeshow, my connection is far from ideal Feb 26 07:31:25 noted. tethered with a celluar modem? or you using mobile hotspot Feb 26 07:31:44 or irc client on cell phone heh Feb 26 07:31:51 via phone on my laptop Feb 26 07:32:22 my client is running on a remote machine in a screen session Feb 26 07:32:28 bip? Feb 26 07:32:32 ohhh Feb 26 07:32:35 screen Feb 26 07:33:22 irssi Feb 26 07:34:24 what device are you porting to ? Feb 26 07:35:25 anunnaki: that site you posted has moto q kernel sources http://cgit.openezx.org/openezx/?h=ezx/mach/motoq Feb 26 07:44:32 Marex, i use irssi. i finally got it all set up with like 15 different plugins to do everythign hexchat does. love it Feb 26 07:44:42 Marex, motorola Q Feb 26 07:45:53 mozzwald, yeah i saw that.. but im new to git.. i see its a "commit message" my browser hasnt fully loaded the page yet. so i dont know if theres more on the page Feb 26 07:46:23 and there is... i should wait to see what else loads before i talk.. Feb 26 07:47:39 what are these commit messages.. im still learning git. i just set up my repository on github the other day and still havent wrapped my head around hot to use and when to use git Feb 26 07:48:32 i have a repo set up there for this moto_q, hopefully ill get it working and upload everything or how they say "push" ? Feb 26 07:50:17 just clone their repo and switch to the motoq branch Feb 26 07:51:00 you have a repo at their site? Feb 26 07:51:48 mozzwald, github.. my directory is linked to it i believe Feb 26 07:55:15 oh. well you could clone the openezx repo, push it to your github and commit any changes to yours also Feb 26 07:55:36 is it easy to clone the repo and switch to the branch.. like a couple commands in terminal or do i do that on github.com? Feb 26 07:55:57 on your computer in term Feb 26 07:56:37 git clone git://git.openezx.org/openezx Feb 26 07:57:49 then i think you use git checkout to switch branches Feb 26 07:58:02 heh just reading it on the bottom of the page.. all those branches listed.. there not all for the moto_q right? Feb 26 07:58:28 not all. just the motoq Feb 26 07:59:46 says counting objects.. of 40000 so far Feb 26 08:00:02 google should give some insight on using git if you have troubles Feb 26 08:00:06 are those all the files in the repo Feb 26 08:00:34 yeah im already on a git website tutorial taht i used when setting up my git repo Feb 26 08:00:35 yep. lots of files in kernel sources :) Feb 26 08:01:01 yeah over 1.2 million atm Feb 26 08:01:14 but its time for me to sleep Feb 26 08:01:49 good luck! Feb 26 08:01:56 thanks for your help Feb 26 08:02:39 ill have it flashed in an hour. no sweat.. be installing gentoo on it and cross compiling for arch systems in no time! ;) Feb 26 08:03:51 good night **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 27 02:59:58 2013