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Mar 09 04:22:19 <ubptgbot> <trivial_inanity> @rockybulwinkle, Depends on the implementation. FORCE_CMDLINE wasn't a patch until 3.4 iirc.
Mar 09 04:42:36 <ubptgbot> <rockybulwinkle> (Voice, 0s) https://irc.ubports.com/PvPuob8e.oga
Mar 09 04:51:17 <ubptgbot> <rockybulwinkle> @trivial_inanity, Idk, the implementation looks fine to me: https://github.com/LineageOS/android_kernel_htc_msm8974/blob/lineage-15.1/arch/arm/kernel/setup.c#L743
Mar 09 04:51:39 <ubptgbot> <rockybulwinkle> I feel that I must be doing something really boneheaded and not realize it yet.
Mar 09 06:13:36 <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @rockybulwinkle, I dont trust vendors. They might have unpatched this ;)
Mar 09 07:40:44 <ubptgbot> Swapnil Kulkarni was added by: Swapnil Kulkarni
Mar 09 07:42:28 <ubptgbot> <Swapnil Kulkarni> Hello friend , is anybody working here on ub port for galaxy s GT-I9000
Mar 09 07:44:38 <Tofe> @UniversalSuperBox: well, that's all for the better :)
Mar 09 07:59:19 <ubptgbot> <Qiangong2> Is there any chance at all to get halium working on 512mb RAM devices?
Mar 09 07:59:59 <ubptgbot> <Qiangong2> Because it would be great if we could get the Nokia X supported
Mar 09 08:02:01 <Tofe> Qiangong2: there is a chance, but your might have to write the OS yourself :/
Mar 09 08:02:32 <Tofe> Though Halium's test rootfs should boot, I guess
Mar 09 08:04:25 <ubptgbot> <Qiangong2> well, darn
Mar 09 08:04:42 <ubptgbot> <Qiangong2> thanks though
Mar 09 08:11:40 <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Swapnil Kulkarni, Which one is this??
Mar 09 08:12:27 <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Qiangong2, Halium is not a full blown OS but only a startup environment. So Halium will work, but the question is if an operating system on top of Halium will be OK with that. I can tell you for Ubuntu Touch it will be not enough...
Mar 09 08:14:13 <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Swapnil Kulkarni, Ok Sorry did not see the S in your msgs ;) - Well this phone is pretty old, Its also questionable what to do with the old Android version.
Mar 09 10:55:34 <ubptgbot> <Mattia990> I finally got a bootchart but kernel tooks 16s and a service called dev-mmcblk0p25.device tooks 5m... How i can see why?
Mar 09 13:03:49 <ubptgbot> <rockybulwinkle> @Flohack, .... Like, that code might not be called anymore and they just hacked it up just enough to get it working for them and didn't clean up? Who would do such a thing! :p
Mar 09 13:10:37 <ubptgbot> cyanogenite was added by: cyanogenite
Mar 09 13:12:18 <ubptgbot> <cyanogenite> Can anyone help? Error while halium. … https://del.dog/ipomosuvin.sql
Mar 09 13:12:33 <ubptgbot> <cyanogenite> @cyanogenite, To every error =y?
Mar 09 13:12:42 <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @rockybulwinkle, I find a lot of speeling errors in Kernels, forgotten debug messages coming through etc. So those people who hack on vendor kernels are no kernel programmers
Mar 09 13:30:07 <ubptgbot> <vince1171> Finely got lxc Android fully running on OP2 :D
Mar 09 13:32:49 <ubptgbot> <lduboeuf> 😄
Mar 09 13:34:05 <ubptgbot> <NotKit> @vince1171, it doesn't freeze or reboot?
Mar 09 13:34:21 <ubptgbot> <NotKit> mine liked to do so after some time in PM rootfs
Mar 09 13:48:05 <ubptgbot> <cyanogenite> Shud I set all =y? … https://del.dog/oqevenofud.cs
Mar 09 13:51:21 <ubptgbot> <rockybulwinkle> @cyanogenite, For the ones it says to yes
Mar 09 13:56:15 <ubptgbot> <cyanogenite> @rockybulwinkle, And ! And m?
Mar 09 13:56:42 <ubptgbot> <cyanogenite> @rockybulwinkle, [Edit] And ! And and " " m?
Mar 09 13:59:46 <ubptgbot> <rockybulwinkle> For each of them when I ran it I changed the values to the left most allowed value.
Mar 09 14:01:07 <ubptgbot> <cyanogenite> @rockybulwinkle, Ohhhh, ok, will do same, thanks
Mar 09 14:29:37 <ubptgbot> <vince1171> @NotKit, Same x( … I was happy too soon —'
Mar 09 14:30:01 <ubptgbot> <NotKit> it can be related to issues @UniversalSuperBox had with Nexus 5X
Mar 09 14:38:37 <ubptgbot> <vince1171> didn't see … can you forward the messsage?
Mar 09 14:43:16 <ubptgbot> <NotKit> I meant this one, but need to ask him what was the matter actually
Mar 09 14:43:16 <ubptgbot> <NotKit> Fwd from UniversalSuperBox: Update: There appear to be some syscalls that cause everything to stop. For example, running `sudo -i` makes everything stop responding
Mar 09 14:43:16 <ubptgbot> <NotKit> Fwd from UniversalSuperBox: The only hint is `[   42.849965] msm_rng:Data not available!` appears when it stops responding
Mar 09 14:44:05 <ubptgbot> <bhushanshah> that was ... not an kernel fault tbh
Mar 09 14:44:05 <ubptgbot> <bhushanshah> :P
Mar 09 14:44:15 <ubptgbot> <bhushanshah> @vince1171 can you try disabling rsyslog
Mar 09 14:44:34 <ubptgbot> <bhushanshah> and see if it makes your life easier?
Mar 09 14:50:45 <ubptgbot> <vince1171> not be able to test … ssh seems to die after 2 minutes.... … never had this before...
Mar 09 14:54:15 <ubptgbot> <vince1171> OK ssh die after 10 seconds now...
Mar 09 14:59:36 <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> That's probably the network resetting
Mar 09 15:04:02 <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> For some reason modern Linux systems don't like UT's rndis networking and reset the connection every 30 seconds, even when you give them valid IP configuration. To fix that, unmanage the device by deleting it from `nm-connection-editor` and then set the configuration.
Mar 09 15:05:03 <ubptgbot> <vince1171> already have this in a connect-halium script
Mar 09 15:05:31 <ubptgbot> <vince1171> here is the log right brefore halium get drunk … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8BdbVqpqmT/
Mar 09 15:06:16 <ubptgbot> <vince1171> this dmesg is made 30 seconds after the startup of the device
Mar 09 15:06:50 <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Hmm, yeah. Try disabling rsyslog by mounting the rootfs.img at `/a`, then running `echo manual |tee /a/etc/init/rsyslog.override`
Mar 09 15:07:09 <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Also, join @ubports_porting for our specific goodness that Bhushan is tired of reading. :P
Mar 09 15:11:55 <ubptgbot> <vince1171> ahahah ok
Mar 09 15:41:32 <ubptgbot> Garth was added by: Garth
Mar 09 15:43:05 <ubptgbot> <Garth> Hi guys, investment advice please: have opportunity to snap up a Nexus 7 2013 LTE (deb) - is it a good opportunity re UT & Halium?
Mar 09 16:17:31 <ubptgbot> <abhishek_0> @Garth, Only if you are getting it way to cheap
Mar 09 16:21:56 <ubptgbot> <Garth> Thank you. I understand this is dev and things are in flux; the tablet is perfect condition with wired keyboard for 165USD and can run LOS15.1 anyhow. Just want OS options 😁👍
Mar 09 16:23:36 <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> I remember there was someone porting a nexus 7 already. I'm not sure if it was the 2012 or 2013 variant.
Mar 09 16:25:52 <ubptgbot> <Garth> Thank you guys. Think I'll buy it - and be my into to learning to port. I see there's a github repo. Thanks again.
Mar 09 17:10:16 <ubptgbot> <stefanomelchior> https://forums.ubports.com/topic/431/porting-halium-to-nexus-7-deb
Mar 09 17:39:06 <ubptgbot> <Garth> Thank you, having a good read through it
Mar 09 17:40:46 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> I need to add this two things to be done with kernel configuration modification?
Mar 09 17:40:51 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> (Photo, 684x296) https://irc.ubports.com/LjSw0cEd.png
Mar 09 17:42:18 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> Anyone can answer the question?
Mar 09 17:43:32 <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> mer-verify-kernel-config says what you have to do ... just add `CONFIG_SOMETHING = y` or `# CONFIG_SOMETHING is not set` depending on what it wants
Mar 09 17:44:04 <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> [Edit] mer-verify-kernel-config says what you have to do ... just add `CONFIG_SOMETHING=y` or `# CONFIG_SOMETHING is not set` depending on what it wants
Mar 09 17:44:31 <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> Also your format doesn't look like a correct defconfig. I don't think `:=`works
Mar 09 17:44:32 <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> [Edit] Also your format doesn't look like a correct defconfig. I don't think `:=` works
Mar 09 17:45:12 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @JBBgameich, everything other is added with := this
Mar 09 17:45:31 <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> Are you sure you're editing the correct file?
Mar 09 17:45:32 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @JBBgameich, So I need to add everything which mer kernel config says?
Mar 09 17:45:44 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @JBBgameich, yeah. BoardConfig.Mk
Mar 09 17:46:14 <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> no, that's not the correct one. You need to edit the kernel defconfig, and you can find out it's name in BoardConfig.mk
Mar 09 17:47:13 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> damn. guide is not clearly says that.
Mar 09 17:48:19 <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> it does. It tells you to run `grep "TARGET_KERNEL_CONFIG" device/<VENDOR>/<CODENAME>/BoardConfig.mk`, which tells you the correct filename
Mar 09 17:51:30 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> One question. In mer kernel some commands has only one allowed value but another ones has two or more allowed values. I will set all commands with one values to y. But how about others? Like this
Mar 09 17:51:31 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> (Photo, 649x208) https://irc.ubports.com/Bk9ou2PA.png
Mar 09 17:51:51 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> See? First one has only y second one has 3 things
Mar 09 17:52:01 <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> also set them to y for now
Mar 09 17:52:11 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> Everything to y?
Mar 09 17:52:40 <ubptgbot> <vanyasem> @redshaman, y is yes, m is module
Mar 09 17:52:46 <ubptgbot> <vanyasem> choose one. i prefer "y"
Mar 09 17:53:38 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @vanyasem, okay. I will add everything and set them all to y
Mar 09 17:53:48 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> One more question about last step
Mar 09 17:53:54 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> I don't understand this Include your device in fixup-mountpoints
Mar 09 17:53:59 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> What it means?
Mar 09 17:54:05 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> What exactly I must do?
Mar 09 17:54:14 <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> @redshaman, Set them to y, except if it wants `n`
Mar 09 17:55:01 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @JBBgameich, Got it. if has one value I will set whatever it wants. if 2 or 3 values I will set to y
Mar 09 17:56:47 <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> correct. About the fixup mountpoints thing: you need to find your fstab file (it's in device/$vendor/$codename/rootdir/fstab.something), and run the commands from the docs for each partition listed there
Mar 09 17:57:53 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @JBBgameich, the problem is I am building in cloud. Can I run this locally and add there or not?
Mar 09 17:59:33 <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> You need to run most commands on your phone somehow. You can of course add the output to the remote file
Mar 09 20:04:05 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @JBBgameich, To which file? It's not stated in manual
Mar 09 20:04:51 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> I am done with defconfig modifications and this fstab thing is the last before building
Mar 09 20:05:21 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> Manual is extremely weird
Mar 09 20:06:23 <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> @redshaman, "the `<BUILDDIR>/halium/hybris-boot/fixup-mountpoints` script"
Mar 09 20:08:34 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @JBBgameich, Okay. I open up that file. Put a skeleton for my device. Open fstab. will run some commands in phone for every line in fstab. then what?
Mar 09 20:09:23 <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> It prints some `mmcblk...` numbers, which you have to add to that file, like done for the other devices in there
Mar 09 20:10:05 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @JBBgameich, Okay. Got it. What this means? Be careful to ensure that your indentation is the same as other devices! The "[codename]") line should be indented by four spaces, and everything below it should be indented as shown.
Mar 09 20:10:43 <ubptgbot> <JBBgameich> It basically says that you shouldn't use tabs in this file, and do everything exactly like done for the other devices in there
Mar 09 20:12:02 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @JBBgameich, Got this too. Thanks for your patience. It seems like everyone other prefers sleeping than trying to help
Mar 09 20:17:22 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> Getting help is hard in almost all developer communities
Mar 09 20:19:57 <ubptgbot> <Ellenjott> @redshaman, Sometimes it's just hard to explain everything from the ground on to newbies.
Mar 09 20:23:42 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @Ellenjott, No one is asking to explain anything from ground. I think answering a simple question isn't that hard. Especially in a little community like this
Mar 09 20:33:04 <ubptgbot> <z3ntu> @redshaman, that is correct
Mar 09 20:33:37 <ubptgbot> <z3ntu> @redshaman, that sounds pretty rude... and btw nobody is getting paid for doing this and people live in different timezones and people also have lives outside of this
Mar 09 20:36:40 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @z3ntu, Yeah. 366 people doing something outside at the same time. Do you believe this?
Mar 09 20:38:41 <ubptgbot> <Ellenjott> 99% of these people dont know much more than you or are currently contributing to completely different projects and just have this chat muted
Mar 09 20:41:34 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @Ellenjott, Agree in this with you. But you think asking something and getting anwer only from group admin is normal?
Mar 09 20:42:05 <ubptgbot> <z3ntu> @z3ntu, please read this message again
Mar 09 20:42:53 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @z3ntu, I am not getting any payment too if you talk about this
Mar 09 20:42:57 <ubptgbot> <Ellenjott> @redshaman, Give me or someone else 10$ / h and   I'm sure we can help you :P
Mar 09 20:43:17 <ubptgbot> <z3ntu> But you seem new to the "Free Software Community". You'll learn that with your attitude not many people will be willing to help you because they have better stuff to do...
Mar 09 20:43:39 <ubptgbot> <z3ntu> And even if you're just friendly not everyone will wait in line to help you.
Mar 09 20:47:11 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @Ellenjott, Hiring someone to help me with building open source os? ))
Mar 09 20:47:36 <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> I think you're missing the point of the previous messages
Mar 09 20:48:04 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @z3ntu, I personally help as much as I can and wait same thing from others
Mar 09 20:48:13 <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> If you're not passive aggressive, people will extend the same.
Mar 09 20:49:38 <ubptgbot> <Ellenjott> @redshaman, Of course that's not the plan, but you can't expect that the people are helping you like in your provider's telephone hotline
Mar 09 20:52:54 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @Ellenjott, Someone must help others because otherwise community will die. Alone :)
Mar 09 20:55:56 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> Your community must somehow grow. The best way to do this is actively helping newcomers. Ignoring,pretending to be silent is not a good way to go
Mar 09 20:57:05 <ubptgbot> <z3ntu> You don't need to teach us how to grow this community
Mar 09 20:58:20 <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Your sentiment is appreciated and understood, but not well-received... There are very few of us (you can count using only your fingers) who are able to dedicate more than a few hours per week to Halium.
Mar 09 20:58:37 <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> So it's a little offending to have someone act like it's not good enough, is all
Mar 09 21:02:39 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @z3ntu, I am not teaching anything.
Mar 09 21:08:52 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @UniversalSuperBox, I get it. No one is getting paid for this so I don't have right to blame everybody about not helping. I hope you got my point. Everyone is waiting for reply when asking help. So it is a little bit offending when you ask for help but people don't answer you and continue their talking. It's not should be li
Mar 09 21:08:52 <ubptgbot> ke this
Mar 09 21:09:18 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> That's all I wanted to say
Mar 09 21:09:39 <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> I see. I'm sorry you felt that way. The problem is... with this project, every phone is different.
Mar 09 21:10:10 <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> You'll see completely different errors than anyone else has ever seen, and you'll think that we're ignoring you when we don't answer. The problem is... no one knows the answer.
Mar 09 21:14:23 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @UniversalSuperBox, I know but my questions was mostly about that manual. Because it's not clearly understandable. I asked about meaning of some parts. I don't asked someone to fix my problem or do my job for me.  Thanks to @JBBgameich got all the answers. Thanks to you too for understanding
Mar 09 21:16:41 <ubptgbot> <z3ntu> If you have improvement suggestions for the manual, feel free to create a pull request to fix those issues (as you know now)
Mar 09 21:21:28 <ubptgbot> <redshaman> @z3ntu, Only translation stuff. Someone with better English than me must do this. Not me
Mar 09 21:48:27 <ubptgbot> <abhishek_01> apparently there are few grammatical errors :P  … but not that much that a person cant understand what it says
Mar 09 21:59:04 <ubptgbot> <z3ntu> and @redshaman : propose something, other people will look over it and correct mistakes they find
Mar 10 01:07:17 <ubptgbot> <Qiangong2> Have you guys seen: https://maemo-leste.github.io
Mar 10 01:07:33 <ubptgbot> <Qiangong2> Seems like it might be interesting
Mar 10 01:33:37 <ubptgbot> <Qiangong2> The latest update to android_frameworks_base breaks compilation
Mar 10 01:34:19 <ubptgbot> <Qiangong2> device/samsung/qcom-common requires SettingsLib common.mk
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