**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 01 02:59:56 2011
Jun 01 07:42:52 <ant_work> testlog
Jun 01 07:43:25 <ant_work> great, log did rotate
Jun 01 07:45:13 <ka6sox-home> kewl
Jun 01 08:02:45 <Jay7> http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/kexecboot/
Jun 01 08:02:48 <Jay7> rotated logs
Jun 01 08:03:29 <Jay7> ant_work: have you seen mail from Paul Sokolovsky in kexecboot-devel?
Jun 01 08:04:04 <ka6sox-home> so all is good?
Jun 01 08:04:12 <Jay7> ka6sox-home: yes, thank you
Jun 01 08:04:43 <Jay7> now we have logging again :)
Jun 01 08:05:32 <ka6sox-home> excellent...do you have autobuilder?
Jun 01 08:05:49 <Jay7> I have local testbuilder
Jun 01 08:05:57 <Jay7> but I'm starting it by hands
Jun 01 08:06:13 <ka6sox-home> okay...we have also provision for build logs too.
Jun 01 08:06:49 <Jay7> I have local web-server at home for this :)
Jun 01 08:07:03 <ka6sox-home> kk...that works too.
Jun 01 08:07:07 <Jay7> http://jay-home.ath.cx/testbuilder/logs/
Jun 01 08:07:46 <Jay7> hm.. I should adjust apache config there to show longer file names
Jun 01 08:08:09 <ka6sox-home> ya, would be easier to understand.
Jun 01 08:08:57 <ka6sox-home> okay back to prepping for new servers...
Jun 01 08:11:23 <Jay7> well, now better
Jun 01 08:15:27 <ant_work> Jay7: I've read...
Jun 01 08:15:46 <ant_work> well, I tested textui immediatly after commit and was working
Jun 01 08:16:02 <ant_work> don't remember if I compiled both ui, probably not
Jun 01 08:16:11 <ant_work> together I mean
Jun 01 08:16:42 <ant_work> basically pfalcon complains there is no automatic fallback to text-ui
Jun 01 08:24:41 <Jay7> hehe
Jun 01 08:24:59 <Jay7> we talked about this yesterday iirc :)
Jun 01 08:29:16 * kenws is just lurking : )
Jun 01 08:38:03 <Jay7> kenws: hello :)
Jun 01 08:50:42 <Jay7> ant_work: did you tested some recent opie builds?
Jun 01 08:51:08 <ant_work> yes, couple of weeks ago
Jun 01 08:51:42 <Jay7> I need something usable on Tosa or Akita..
Jun 01 08:52:12 <Jay7> seems I'll build special kernel with right NAND partitioning compiled
Jun 01 08:52:26 <Jay7> simple patch in my private branch
Jun 01 08:52:56 <ant_work> about this,iirc kexecboot did indeed find the first mtd, even if resized
Jun 01 08:53:00 <Jay7> hm.. or may be just compile cmdline with right mtdparams
Jun 01 08:53:27 <ant_work> fstype just scans first chunk (2 bytes)
Jun 01 08:53:32 <Jay7> sure, it is always after first 7Mb :)
Jun 01 08:53:47 <Jay7> but jffs recovery may easily break it
Jun 01 08:54:00 <ant_work> why the hell should you have it with 2.6 ?
Jun 01 08:54:10 <ant_work> was a 2.4 cmdline arg
Jun 01 08:54:10 <Jay7> good question
Jun 01 08:54:53 <ant_work> anyway right formatting is not straightforward
Jun 01 08:55:26 <ant_work> if you dont' add -j the cleanmarkers are written on first boot / recovery
Jun 01 08:55:28 <Jay7> I wish to try SHR one time..
Jun 01 08:56:07 <ant_work> I think I'll add a shell script to handle formatting and maybe flashing of mtd
Jun 01 08:56:25 <ant_work> in zaurus-utils
Jun 01 08:56:49 <Jay7> installer?
Jun 01 08:57:34 <ant_work> you can always use updater.sh if you want but seems to me it's easier from console
Jun 01 08:57:57 <Jay7> console-image with mtd utils + shell script
Jun 01 08:58:12 <ant_work> yes, maybe  in sbin
Jun 01 08:58:12 <Jay7> and name it recovery image like pdaxrom :)
Jun 01 08:58:49 <ant_work> actually we could deploy it in all images as we do with nandlogical
Jun 01 08:58:58 <Jay7> even better - busybox image with shell script as /etc/rc :)
Jun 01 08:58:58 <ant_work> 1-2 kb I guess
Jun 01 08:59:13 <Jay7> dialog + mtd utils + nandlogical
Jun 01 08:59:20 <Jay7> something like cacko installer :)
Jun 01 08:59:30 <ant_work> or hack this
Jun 01 08:59:58 <ant_work> I have a basic script but w/out ncurses
Jun 01 09:00:03 <ant_work> or dialog
Jun 01 09:00:15 <Jay7> well.. we should release some kexecboot images with classic OE
Jun 01 09:00:23 <ant_work> yes, 0.6?
Jun 01 09:00:25 <Jay7> yes..
Jun 01 09:00:31 <Jay7> w/o other boot methods
Jun 01 09:00:38 <Jay7> classic OE + classic kexecboot :)
Jun 01 09:00:42 <ant_work> heh
Jun 01 09:01:05 <Jay7> I've pinged pfalcon to join
Jun 01 09:01:20 <Jay7> I wish resolve that problem with fb console (latest item)
Jun 01 09:01:25 <ant_work> now, about debugging
Jun 01 09:01:36 <ant_work> priority is imho:
Jun 01 09:01:46 <ant_work> 1) pfalcon text-uireport
Jun 01 09:01:54 <ant_work> 2) qvga sys-menu
Jun 01 09:02:01 <ant_work> 3) slow input (on spitz)
Jun 01 09:02:03 <Jay7> 1 == ui fallback
Jun 01 09:02:28 <Jay7> 3 is WIP slowly
Jun 01 09:02:53 <Jay7> I'll try to add more graphical primitives
Jun 01 09:03:06 <Jay7> e.g. to draw unfilled frame
Jun 01 09:03:14 <ant_work> 2 is the hardest one to catch...
Jun 01 09:03:19 <Jay7> yeah :(
Jun 01 09:03:45 <ant_work> I've re-read source code yesterday evening...anything strange
Jun 01 09:03:54 <ant_work> but there must be smthg ;)
Jun 01 09:03:54 <Jay7> I fear new fb code is source of..
Jun 01 09:04:30 <Jay7> may be fallback to old method
Jun 01 09:04:40 <Jay7> hm.. idea
Jun 01 09:04:41 <ant_work> I'm thinking about more verbosity just before entering next menu level
Jun 01 09:05:11 <Jay7> I'll write line drawing functions which have no logic inside, just calling plot_pixel as before
Jun 01 09:05:43 <Jay7> this should reduce possibility of fb ram overflow
Jun 01 09:06:10 <Jay7> with price of reduced speed.. but old code was even slower on drawing
Jun 01 09:06:28 <Jay7> well, I'll look today
Jun 01 09:09:08 <Jay7> seems I should buy 3G-modem
Jun 01 09:09:26 <Jay7> now I have no office and no link when not at home
Jun 01 09:10:15 <ant_work> ouch
Jun 01 09:12:30 <Jay7> this have pro's and con's :)
Jun 01 09:22:05 <ant_work> Jay7: did you test with valgrind the latest fb-ui in qvga?
Jun 01 09:22:55 <Jay7> I can't get qvga in qemu-kvm :(
Jun 01 09:29:23 <ant_work> ok, I'll retry on c7x0, maybe rotated this time
Jun 01 10:02:24 <Jay7> ant_work: about power key
Jun 01 10:02:55 <Jay7> try to add case KEY_SUSPEND to switch() where keys are processed
Jun 01 10:03:21 <Jay7> e.g. bind it to show log info
Jun 01 10:03:52 <Jay7> just to check that kexecboot see that keypress
Jun 01 10:04:06 <ant_work> yes, th eidea was to dump its value
Jun 01 10:04:40 <Jay7> or disable keymap loading in console-image e.g.
Jun 01 10:04:41 <ant_work> but the same happens on poodle...with another kb driver (locomo) as collie...
Jun 01 10:04:59 <Jay7> I'm not sure what event device produces that keypress
Jun 01 10:05:08 <Jay7> common keyboard evdev?
Jun 01 10:05:19 <ant_work> I'm a bit lost too
Jun 01 10:05:28 <ant_work> I'll start from kernel hardcoded kbmap :)
Jun 01 10:05:36 <Jay7> iirc there was some tool to view events on eventX device..
Jun 01 10:05:41 <ant_work> evtest?
Jun 01 10:05:45 <Jay7> may be
Jun 01 10:05:49 <Jay7> can't remember
Jun 01 10:05:51 <ant_work> worth a try
Jun 01 10:06:38 <ant_work> kernel reads  372         KEY(7, 0, CORGI_KEY_OFF),
Jun 01 10:06:53 <ant_work> in  static const uint32_t corgikbd_keymap[] = {
Jun 01 10:07:23 <ant_work> 7,0
Jun 01 12:03:55 <ant_work> Jay7: I was reading about LIC_FILES_CHKSUM
Jun 01 12:04:24 <ant_work> in kexecboot sources there is a correct COPYING
Jun 01 12:04:55 <ant_work> (though gitweb shows strange \f )
Jun 01 12:05:16 <ant_work> but then the copyright is spread around
Jun 01 12:05:28 <ant_work> maybe an  nclude / common.h
Jun 01 12:06:17 <ant_work> with that stuff
Jun 01 12:30:36 <Jay7> ant_work: I don't know how to better handle this
Jun 01 12:30:43 * Jay7 -> afk
Jun 01 12:33:29 <ant_work> https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Recipe_%26_Patch_Style_Guide#LICENSE
Jun 01 12:33:41 <ant_work> seems we can just take one/two files to track
Jun 01 12:34:53 <ant_work> ah, no
Jun 01 12:35:45 <ant_work> well, maybe :p
Jun 01 12:35:56 <ant_work> > This file lists all the files with the text of licenses for the source code
Jun 01 12:36:06 <ant_work> >...
Jun 01 12:36:08 <ant_work> > There is no limit on how many files can be specified. But generally every project would need specifying of just one or two files for license tracking.
Jun 01 12:36:12 <ant_work> ?1?
Jun 01 15:54:29 <ka6sox-home> I think license tracking is going to be a big PITA...
Jun 01 15:58:48 <ant_work> bbl
Jun 01 21:35:30 <ant__> Jay7: anything new wrt debug to test?
Jun 01 21:52:30 <ant__> Jay7: now OE is in sync with upstream...bugs included :p
Jun 01 21:58:01 <ant__> and, about  --enable-static-linking compile kexecboot as static executable [default=no]
Jun 01 21:58:31 <ant__> I'm under th eimpression kexecboot-klibc is just overriding with own klcc flags
Jun 01 21:59:34 <ant__> a glibc/eglibc static version doesn't make much sense imho
Jun 01 22:17:49 <Jay7> ant__: sorry, no debug today
Jun 01 22:18:19 <Jay7> about static - someone should check :)
Jun 01 22:18:35 <ant__> np
Jun 01 22:19:34 <Jay7> any ideas about license files?
Jun 01 22:19:54 <Jay7> we can collect all copyrights in AUTHORS file e.g.
Jun 01 22:20:46 <ant__> beside you there are some authors listed in some files
Jun 01 22:20:57 <ant__> is it still actual?
Jun 01 22:20:57 <Jay7> yes, I mean that
Jun 01 22:22:21 <ant__> almost all was rewritten
Jun 01 22:23:13 <Jay7> imho, they all should be respected as authors
Jun 01 22:23:31 <ant__> ok, the list them back in 2009
Jun 01 22:23:43 <ant__> *then
Jun 01 22:23:46 <Jay7> on kexecboot.org we have hall of fame
Jun 01 22:24:15 <ant__> we must add pfalcon :)
Jun 01 22:24:35 <ant__> for the next ver with losetup etc.
Jun 01 22:24:47 <Jay7> with ui fallback then :)
Jun 01 22:25:17 <ant__> I hope he will join: we can reuse much of his work in th eold initramfs scripts
Jun 01 22:25:57 <ant__> btw: we shall start to think about devicetree
Jun 01 22:26:11 <Jay7> he is spending his time for linaro now
Jun 01 22:26:16 <ant__> it can be appended to the kernel
Jun 01 22:26:34 <ant__> or reside elsewhere
Jun 01 22:26:43 <Jay7> I don't know what we should consider wrt devicetree..
Jun 01 22:28:37 <ant__> btw btw, talking with RP he understands CONFIG_MTDPARTS will be 'yes' by default, just not configurable
Jun 01 22:29:22 <ant__> so we can stick with 'mtdparts' tag for now
Jun 01 22:29:45 <ant__> ok, poodle image is built
Jun 01 22:30:16 <ant__> now, what do you thinkl: printf before entering system menu other immediately after entering it?
Jun 01 22:30:41 <Jay7> add both :)
Jun 01 22:30:50 <ant__> :p
Jun 01 22:31:28 <ant__> wow... 'other' -> oder -> or
Jun 01 22:31:41 <ant__> I'm a bit tired...
Jun 01 22:32:08 <ant__> left brain speeks english, right german
Jun 01 22:32:16 <ant__> bah
Jun 01 22:32:45 <ant__> speaks very bad, indeed
Jun 01 22:43:17 <ant__> Jay7: locomo keyboard has big problems!
Jun 01 22:43:30 <ant__> I can't test [0-9] keys
Jun 01 22:44:22 <ant__> r and s ok as before
Jun 01 22:44:33 <Jay7> hm.. strange
Jun 01 22:44:59 <ant__> how do you type on collie?
Jun 01 22:45:04 <Jay7> check with console image with keymap loading disabled
Jun 01 22:45:30 <ant__> I'm pretty sure it's broken
Jun 01 22:45:32 <Jay7> I'm not sure I've tested it before..
Jun 01 22:46:09 <ant__> with 2.6.3x the central button doesn't work too
Jun 01 22:46:17 <ant__> cursors yes
Jun 01 22:46:39 <ant__> I fear it is like for ben
Jun 01 22:47:00 <ant__> we need a keymap even for initramfs env
Jun 01 22:48:00 <Jay7> yeah, that is what I've thought
Jun 01 22:48:12 <Jay7> or patch for kernel keymap
Jun 01 22:48:20 <Jay7> should be easier
Jun 01 22:48:48 <ant__> in kexecboot I see
Jun 01 22:49:00 <ant__> Unknown event type: 0x0000
Jun 01 22:49:06 <ant__> Keys or Buttons
Jun 01 22:49:11 <ant__> Repeat
Jun 01 22:49:15 <ant__> Power
Jun 01 22:55:10 <ant__> ok, frozen in System Menu
Jun 01 22:55:40 <ant__> here there are 5 items listed
Jun 01 22:56:06 <ant__> and it looks like there is space for a 6th
Jun 01 23:08:21 <ant__> now testing as standalone on poodle
Jun 01 23:10:26 <ant__> he he
Jun 01 23:10:32 <ant__> Jay7: ;))
Jun 01 23:10:43 <ant__> with 6 items it does not freeze
Jun 01 23:10:49 <Jay7> hm..
Jun 01 23:10:54 <ant__> (standalone adds Exit)
Jun 01 23:11:05 <Jay7> comment it :)
Jun 01 23:11:10 <ant__> wait
Jun 01 23:11:23 <ant__> I can press Bac but then it returns here
Jun 01 23:11:31 <ant__> strange
Jun 01 23:11:47 <ant__> as like menu-id was not updated on exit
Jun 01 23:12:06 <ant__> so I'm prisoner in system-menu :)
Jun 01 23:12:39 <ant__> btw, two rapid clicks on back do the trick
Jun 01 23:12:41 <Jay7> hm.. strange
Jun 01 23:12:43 <ant__> I'm out
Jun 01 23:13:05 <Jay7> can you compile w/o optimization?
Jun 01 23:13:14 <Jay7> this all looking very strange
Jun 01 23:13:19 <Jay7> I fear some gcc bug
Jun 01 23:13:37 <ant__> hm.. maybe input rate is too fast
Jun 01 23:13:52 <ant__> rapid click is ok
Jun 01 23:14:01 <Jay7> well, may be..
Jun 01 23:14:26 <ant__> (it was ok with old kernel)
Jun 01 23:15:03 <Jay7> but when I've tried to debug non-working UI on collie time ago I got very strange behaviour
Jun 01 23:15:35 <ant__> ok, same binary, bug is repeatable
Jun 01 23:15:37 <Jay7> kexecboot just fails on different places
Jun 01 23:17:03 <ant__> frozen with 5 items, working strangely with 6
Jun 01 23:17:42 <ant__> this only happens in submenu
Jun 01 23:18:04 <ant__> first level item population doesn't matter
Jun 01 23:22:38 <ant__> Jay7: Alignment trap: kexecboot (429) PC=0x00014438 Instr=0xe5933000 Address=0x401a7c6f FSR 0x013
Jun 01 23:23:50 <Jay7> nice
Jun 01 23:24:10 <Jay7> disable thumb and check compiler options..
Jun 01 23:24:21 <Jay7> may be try -O0
Jun 01 23:24:33 <ant__> this was maybe when exiting from standalone mode
Jun 01 23:26:54 <ant__> ah, no
Jun 01 23:27:03 <ant__> it happens right on entering System Menu
Jun 01 23:27:51 <ant__> this corresponds to those 'long clicks'
Jun 01 23:29:00 <ant__> like double-pressure, exit/enter
Jun 01 23:29:19 <ant__> twilight zone...
Jun 01 23:30:37 <ant__> ok, now we need pb__ and the binary ;)
Jun 01 23:30:54 <ant__> or google and objdump
Jun 01 23:32:51 <Jay7> shit.. client's windows infrastructure almost destroyed.. both AD computers are lost SAM
Jun 01 23:33:09 <Jay7> one have snapshot but seems it is obsoleted
Jun 01 23:33:13 <ant__> omg
Jun 01 23:33:36 <Jay7> one, who know how all that shit works now in USA in vacation
Jun 01 23:33:57 <Jay7> employees have only my phone to resolve that
Jun 01 23:34:03 <Jay7> FUCK
Jun 01 23:34:08 <ant__> typical scenario :/
Jun 01 23:34:38 <ant__> how is Windows integrated thgere?
Jun 01 23:35:12 <ant__> is it impossible to move all services to *x?
Jun 01 23:38:48 <Jay7> all servers are in vm's under xenserver
Jun 01 23:38:54 <Jay7> that's good part
Jun 01 23:39:05 <Jay7> so I have snapshots at least
Jun 01 23:40:48 <ka6sox-home> that will save your bacon.
Jun 01 23:42:02 <Jay7> no, that will save client's business..
Jun 01 23:42:16 <Jay7> I'm only infrastructure admin there
Jun 01 23:42:36 <Jay7> i.e. xenserver, storages, network and unix machines support
Jun 01 23:42:44 <Jay7> no windows support at all
Jun 01 23:42:53 <ka6sox-home> "I don't do windows"
Jun 01 23:42:58 <Jay7> but they will ask me at morning..
Jun 01 23:43:11 <Jay7> because they have no one else
Jun 01 23:43:45 <ka6sox-home> that is not unique problem in IT world these days.
Jun 01 23:51:09 <ant__> heh, I saw that back in the 80's and choosed the DIYS
Jun 01 23:51:21 <ant__> way
Jun 01 23:51:55 <ant__> ...but I'm still blocked with our own ms-acess frontend
Jun 01 23:52:45 <ant__> people are just used with it and refuse the php webapp :/
Jun 01 23:53:19 <ant__> so some are running Windows... WIN2000 :]
Jun 01 23:53:49 <ant__> at least I know the risks...
Jun 01 23:55:54 <ant__> ok, almost 2 o' clock
Jun 01 23:56:04 <ant__> good night
Jun 01 23:56:55 <Jay7> almost 4 o' clock.. :(
Jun 02 00:00:32 <ka6sox-home> Jay7, go to bed...they will call you too early.
Jun 02 00:00:47 <Jay7> I'm trying to resolve this somehow..
Jun 02 00:01:16 <ka6sox-home> we have a saying in the US...."Punt"
Jun 02 00:07:45 <ka6sox-home> when you can't deal with the problem...punt it over to someone who can...aka find a windoze guy.
Jun 02 00:22:21 <Jay7> kind of.. well.. it can't be resolved from home right now, so going to bed
Jun 02 00:22:59 <ka6sox-home> nite
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