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Aug 31 15:24:45 <bluelightning> hi all... presumably ant is on holiday?
Aug 31 15:32:33 <ka6sox-zzzz> I'm always amazed at the OT subjects that come up...Like Hammond Organs.
Aug 31 15:37:10 <bluelightning> ka6sox-zzzz: well, we do tend to use this as a general chat channel :)
Aug 31 15:47:30 <ka6sox-zzzz> yup, why I idle here...enjoy it.
Aug 31 16:49:36 <Jay7> hehe
Aug 31 16:49:50 <Jay7> 'general chat channel' is right definition :)
Aug 31 18:02:17 <ka6sox> he he Jay7
Aug 31 19:34:19 <lumag> Hi Jay7, bluelightning
Aug 31 19:34:26 <lumag> bluelightning, any news on meta-opie?
Aug 31 19:34:30 <bluelightning> lumag: yes!
Aug 31 19:34:36 <bluelightning> I can release now
Aug 31 19:34:39 <lumag> :)
Aug 31 19:34:54 <bluelightning> only thing I am now waiting for is for pb_ to create the repos, so far no reply from him on that
Aug 31 19:35:08 <bluelightning> but in the mean time I'm going to push to some temporary repos on github
Aug 31 19:36:29 <lumag> Good. Why not make github a permanent place?
Aug 31 19:37:26 <lumag> Looks like a half from angstrom's layers are already on github.
Aug 31 19:38:00 <bluelightning> well, if they are on oe.org they would be more "official" somehow...
Aug 31 19:38:08 <bluelightning> but then again, oe.org is already overloaded
Aug 31 19:48:05 <bluelightning> lumag: https://github.com/bluelightning/meta-opie
Aug 31 19:49:54 <bluelightning> if you try it let me know how you get on :)
Aug 31 19:57:39 <lumag> bluelightning, I'm currently building qt4 images for testing. Then I'll go with your image.
Aug 31 19:57:49 <lumag> s/image/layer/
Aug 31 19:57:51 <bluelightning> great stuff :)
Aug 31 20:02:47 <Jay7> lumag: evening :)
Aug 31 20:03:29 <bluelightning> we also now have: https://github.com/bluelightning/meta-handheld
Aug 31 20:03:37 <bluelightning> though it needs some work still
Aug 31 20:03:46 <bluelightning> does not have kexecboot stuff yet
Aug 31 20:05:23 <lumag> bluelightning, good!
Aug 31 20:05:25 <lumag> Hmmm. I think you can drop leftovers like terrier.conf. Most probably it's better to put such info in README
Aug 31 20:05:38 <bluelightning> yes I wondered about that
Aug 31 20:07:32 <lumag> Also do you plan to leave all bsp parts in one tree, or you'd split it into meta-zaurus, meta-ipaq, etc?
Aug 31 20:10:04 <bluelightning> not sure... for the moment I had planned to keep them in the same tree
Aug 31 20:10:04 <bluelightning> but if people really want it split then we could do that
Aug 31 20:10:08 <bluelightning> I figure it's probably not worth the hassle though
Aug 31 20:11:18 <lumag> Most probably, as it really has few recipes.
Aug 31 20:12:23 <lumag> bluelightning, is there a significant difference between 1.2.5 and git versions?
Aug 31 20:12:31 <bluelightning> over time I hope we can reduce the number of kernels too
Aug 31 20:12:48 * bluelightning checks
Aug 31 20:14:02 <lumag> bluelightning, most probably h&d and hh kernel users should be ported to recent kernels and respective recipes dropped.
Aug 31 20:14:25 <lumag> Marek did a great job of porting Palm support to mainline
Aug 31 20:14:36 <bluelightning> yeah, for the h&d kernels, I have some confidence that most of that stuff has hit mainline already
Aug 31 20:14:49 <bluelightning> for hh AFAIK it's sadly not the case (yet)
Aug 31 20:14:58 <bluelightning> but some machines are slowly moving up, eg. hx4700
Aug 31 20:15:19 <lumag> Unfortunately I don't have palm devices at hand, and slapin (another palm hacker) is currently busy with private life :)
Aug 31 20:15:53 <bluelightning> yes, I'm kind of busy myself with moving house over the next few weeks so I won't have much time to work on these
Aug 31 20:16:08 <bluelightning> but once that's over I should be able to spend some time cleaning things up
Aug 31 20:17:39 <lumag> Are there any active developers from former hh team?
Aug 31 20:21:44 <bluelightning> lumag: well, kind of... pb_ is around from those days although he hasn't touched the hh kernel for a very long time
Aug 31 20:22:27 <bluelightning> I heard from aquadran a few months ago, I tried to talk him into updating h1910 support... he said he'd think about it IIRC
Aug 31 20:25:51 <bluelightning> I think most have moved onto different things
Aug 31 20:26:00 <lumag> Well, h4700 was on the angstrom mainpage with 3.0, so it's probably well supported.
Aug 31 20:26:24 <bluelightning> yeah, I got mine to boot, but there were a few small issues
Aug 31 20:27:02 <bluelightning> the guy who was working on hx4700 kernel code recently (Paul Parsons) sent me a new patch set & defconfig and I've built it but not tested it yet
Aug 31 20:34:28 <bluelightning> lumag: to answer your earlier question, in Opie git beyond 1.2.5 there is the bluetooth overhaul and notification popups as well as a few small bug fixes and tidy-ups
Aug 31 20:34:57 <bluelightning> I'm not sure if I pushed anything on the connman branch yet but that's sort of working on my netbook here at least
Aug 31 20:36:58 <lumag> I remember I pushed some tosa fixes to you. But I still didn't fix the second battery display
Aug 31 20:39:35 <bluelightning> yeah, they got merged for 1.2.5 didn't they?
Aug 31 20:39:40 <Jay7> sh1t.. I need push changes to kexecboot tree..
Aug 31 20:39:44 <lumag> I don't remember actually.
Aug 31 20:39:52 <lumag> Most probably
Aug 31 20:39:58 <lumag> Jay7, ?
Aug 31 20:40:12 <Jay7> lumag: I mean your changes and devtmpfs..
Aug 31 20:40:45 <bluelightning> lumag: all I can find in the commit history is the backlight fix
Aug 31 20:40:58 <bluelightning> so if you have anything else I'd love to merge it :)
Aug 31 20:41:07 <lumag> bluelightning, yes, that's all for now, I think.
Aug 31 20:41:22 <lumag> Didn't have too much time for PDAs for a year or so.
Aug 31 20:42:27 <lumag> Damn. Looks like I'll have to make all " not shipped files"  an error for my builds. There are too important sometimes to be lost in a mere warning.
Aug 31 20:45:14 <lumag> bluelightning, do you know if any of the opie on qt4 or qtei or etc. efforts gained a success?
Aug 31 20:45:54 <bluelightning> lumag: not as far as I know
Aug 31 20:46:18 <bluelightning> Lorn seemed to think a rewrite would be easier than porting
Aug 31 20:47:01 <bluelightning> the branch that bero started the qt4 work on is still there, but I never looked at it
Aug 31 20:47:34 <lumag> I once tried porting opie to qt4, got more or less success with usual apps, but got stuck with core parts like themes, keyboard, etc.
Aug 31 20:47:56 <bluelightning> hmm... did you keep your work at all?
Aug 31 20:48:24 <lumag> Probably it died somewhere. I've lost two hdds last year.
Aug 31 20:50:22 <lumag> Since it's not present on gitorious, it's dead.
Aug 31 20:52:03 <lumag> Maybe I'll retry splitting/managing qtopia-core from trolltech/nokia. If I have enough spare time. There was some project around openmoko to maintain qt4opia, but last time I checked it still used that damn qbuild build system.
Aug 31 21:04:25 <bluelightning> lumag: I guess you mean qtmoko?
Aug 31 21:04:33 <lumag> yes
Aug 31 21:04:41 <bluelightning> would probably be a good starting point
Aug 31 21:04:49 <bluelightning> if nothing else
Aug 31 21:08:54 <lumag> gtg now.
Aug 31 21:08:57 <lumag> Bye!
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