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Dec 05 16:18:59 <ant_work> bluelightning: hello
Dec 05 16:20:07 <Jay7> ant_work: hi
Dec 05 16:20:22 <ant_work> hi Jay7
Dec 05 16:20:39 <Jay7> ant_work: where to get quick start guide to build Z images with oe-core? :)
Dec 05 16:20:58 <ant_work> heh
Dec 05 16:21:30 <ant_work> atm I prefer to use basic oe-core and adding meta-oe and meta-handheld layer by hand
Dec 05 16:21:55 <ant_work> so no distro
Dec 05 16:24:08 <ant_work> 1) clone  git://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core
Dec 05 16:24:08 <Jay7> it's ok
Dec 05 16:24:26 <bluelightning> hi ant_work, Jay7
Dec 05 16:24:35 <bluelightning> Jay7: sorry I missed your msg yesterday
Dec 05 16:24:35 <ant_work> 2) in the same dir clone git://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core
Dec 05 16:24:45 <Jay7> bluelightning: np
Dec 05 16:24:47 <ant_work> err
Dec 05 16:24:48 <ant_work> git://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded
Dec 05 16:25:03 <ant_work> 3) git://git.openembedded.org/meta-handheld
Dec 05 16:25:20 <ant_work> then you'll have to cd /oe/oe-core
Dec 05 16:25:29 <ant_work> and . ./oe-init-ebv.blah blah
Dec 05 16:25:45 <ant_work> before building
Dec 05 16:25:59 <ant_work> the rest is usual
Dec 05 16:26:27 <ant_work> ah, note the local.conf will be in oe-core/build/conf
Dec 05 16:26:46 <Jay7> ant_work: ok, thanks
Dec 05 16:26:52 <Jay7> I'll try today
Dec 05 16:27:53 <ant_work> the bblayers.conf should only contain the 3 layers
Dec 05 16:28:22 <ant_work> (there is enough leakage between 3...)
Dec 05 16:31:07 <ant_work> bluelightning:  whatsup with PRINC?
Dec 05 16:31:19 <ant_work> do we need to implement it in meta-handheld?
Dec 05 16:31:51 <bluelightning> ant_work: it's sounding like the convention is to always use it, so maybe we should in our bbappends...
Dec 05 17:11:30 <ant_work> I fear we should add one more for udev :/
Dec 05 17:11:53 <ant_work> th emov epatch to systemd is not entirely clear to me
Dec 05 17:12:07 <ant_work> it seems systemd is meta-oe only
Dec 05 17:12:20 <ant_work> better said, Angstrom/shr only....
Dec 05 17:12:56 <ant_work> after the rework I need to check all IMAGE and DISTRO vars defining initscripts, devicemanager, etc
Dec 05 17:13:18 <ant_work> it seems much has been moved to IMAGE level if I'm not wrong
Dec 05 17:21:06 <bluelightning> honestly I think systemd should be a distro-level choice
Dec 05 17:21:19 <bluelightning> it's just too messy to maintain long-term otherwise
Dec 05 17:27:36 <ant_work> this recipe unconditionally installs
Dec 05 17:27:37 <ant_work> http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-oe/recipes-graphics/xserver-nodm-init/xserver-nodm-init_2.0.bb
Dec 05 17:28:04 <ant_work> has different RDEPENDS and inherits from the one in oe-core :/
Dec 05 17:28:41 <ant_work> it's hard to believe the mixture of the two works
Dec 05 17:28:47 <ant_work> it doesn't on Z
Dec 05 17:29:07 <Jay7> ant_work: should meta-openembedded reside in oe-core directory?
Dec 05 17:29:08 <ant_work> this leads to the question: how many people are building with meta-oe ?
Dec 05 17:29:17 <Jay7> near other meta-* layers
Dec 05 17:29:25 <ant_work> I have all3 under /oe
Dec 05 17:29:47 <ant_work> but it could be under oee-core as well I think
Dec 05 17:30:01 <Jay7> I have oe-core with bitbake, build, meta, meta-demoapps, meta-skeleton, ..
Dec 05 17:30:10 <Jay7> should be meta-oe there?
Dec 05 17:30:11 <ant_work> right
Dec 05 17:30:42 <ant_work> you have to edit bblayers.conf and put the path.
Dec 05 17:30:48 <ant_work> it's up to you
Dec 05 17:30:52 <Jay7> ok then
Dec 05 17:31:05 <ant_work> I prefer to pull the 3 layers separately
Dec 05 17:31:13 <ant_work>  + bitbake
Dec 05 17:31:36 <ant_work> git pull I mean
Dec 05 17:31:39 <Jay7> ah, well.. from git POV it may be better to move layers into upper dir
Dec 05 17:31:56 <ant_work> well, yes and not
Dec 05 17:32:13 <ant_work> it happens that you have to enter /bitbake to git pull it
Dec 05 17:32:29 <ant_work> try git pull from /oe-core
Dec 05 17:33:12 <ant_work> in fact I took the lazy way and did not mix the stuff ;)
Dec 05 17:34:27 <ant_work> btw there are scripts around for setting layers but as you imagine I don't trust them (yet)
Dec 05 17:34:31 <Jay7> btw, what version of bb to use now?
Dec 05 17:34:36 <ant_work> master
Dec 05 17:35:05 <Jay7> one from git://git.openembedded.org/bitbake?
Dec 05 17:35:30 <ant_work> cd ./oe-core/bitbake; git pull
Dec 05 17:35:41 <ant_work> this one will be used
Dec 05 17:35:59 <Jay7> ah, ok
Dec 05 17:36:10 <Jay7> well..
Dec 05 17:40:42 <ant_work> it's not that difficult, isn't?
Dec 05 17:40:57 <ant_work> much like with oe-classic
Dec 05 17:45:44 <ant_work> bbl
Dec 05 21:54:28 <ant____> Jay7: build was ok?
Dec 05 22:29:44 <Jay7> ant____: yes
Dec 05 22:33:44 <ant____> good
Dec 05 22:33:57 <ant____> now you'll need a quick patch for udev...
Dec 05 22:35:02 <ant____> http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/13331/
Dec 05 22:36:13 <ant____> or just -c clean, -c cleansstate udev and tar.gz the copy in meta-oe  ;)
Dec 05 22:39:50 <Jay7> I'm building linux-kexecboot now only
Dec 05 22:43:42 <Jay7> well.. all installkits are done
Dec 05 22:44:03 <Jay7> ant____: is your poodle booting 3.1 ok?
Dec 05 22:44:37 <ant____> yes, standard kernel is ok
Dec 05 22:44:52 <Jay7> what about kexecboot one?
Dec 05 22:45:09 <ant____> no probs last I tried
Dec 05 22:45:21 <ant____> maybe was 3.1.1
Dec 05 22:45:28 <Jay7> hm.. collie should not be so different
Dec 05 22:45:32 <ant____> now we have 3.1.4 to commit btw
Dec 05 22:45:44 <Jay7> I'll try to build kexecboot with TUI
Dec 05 22:45:54 <ant____> ah, collie...there are sha1100 patches on lakml
Dec 05 22:46:10 <ant____> for 3.2 though
Dec 05 22:50:02 <Jay7> ant____: we have 3 hours difference now
Dec 05 22:50:14 <ant____> ://
Dec 05 22:50:17 <Jay7> no more daylight saving time here
Dec 05 22:51:53 * Jay7 -> sleep
Dec 05 22:52:50 <ant____> gn
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