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Jun 12 08:54:49 <ant_work> bluelightning: so I'll give-up with that cramfs legacy recipe, will provide some hack/dupe in meta-handheld instead. As for the creation of a meta-filesystem, I'm pretty sure the recipes in meta-oe will be 'forgotten' :/
Jun 12 08:55:20 <bluelightning> ant_work: what do you mean by forgotten?
Jun 12 08:55:27 <ant_work> ignored ?
Jun 12 08:55:42 <ant_work> it happened so many times already
Jun 12 08:56:04 <ant_work> see, nobody wants/needs meta-oe
Jun 12 08:56:13 <bluelightning> I'm not sure that's true
Jun 12 08:56:14 <ant_work> just some subsets of meta-openembedded
Jun 12 08:56:25 <ant_work> me too
Jun 12 08:56:37 <bluelightning> it does contain a fairly large number of recipes and no one person keeps them all up-to-date
Jun 12 08:57:21 <bluelightning> I'd like to see it broken up further but there is an insistence by meta-oe maintainers that meta-oe can't depend upon any other layer which makes that more difficult
Jun 12 08:57:55 <ant_work> anyway a meta-filesystems layer sounds crap to me. You need the -native tools to produce images, so...
Jun 12 08:58:09 <ant_work> if this isn't core...
Jun 12 08:58:26 <ant_work> I just don't want to be polemic with Saul
Jun 12 08:59:24 <ant_work> he's right the recipe is not used in OE/Yocto: the recipe is broken and nobody noticed it...
Jun 12 09:00:37 <bluelightning> well, I see it both ways... whilst it isn't great for a BSP to rely on meta-oe, we have to draw the line somewhere with what OE-Core contains; if there were a large number of people using it it might be a different situation
Jun 12 09:00:50 <ant_work> but imho oe-core should contain all fs-helpers known around for completness
Jun 12 09:01:25 <ant_work> hey, it's a 2002 recipe, where is the maintainance ?
Jun 12 09:01:58 <ant_work> I mean, no maintainance needed
Jun 12 09:02:24 <bluelightning> old recipes break for all sorts of reasons though
Jun 12 09:02:35 <ant_work> I'd say we ought support all filesystems *still* present in kernel
Jun 12 09:02:56 <ant_work> i.e. soon lzma will be deprecated in favor of xz
Jun 12 09:03:02 <ant_work> those cases
Jun 12 09:03:35 <bluelightning> but then you'll have all sorts of tools needed for things that almost nobody uses, e.g. reiserfs tools
Jun 12 09:04:02 <ant_work> can you decide the fs a user wants?
Jun 12 09:05:05 <ant_work> I have in mind a .bbappend for util-linux enabling mkfs.crmfs, finally ;)
Jun 12 09:05:55 <ant_work> but image_types.bbclass needs 'cramfs-native' so I'll have to hack around to provide it
Jun 12 09:06:16 <bluelightning> this might be a case for a wider discussion
Jun 12 09:09:01 <bluelightning> this is not quite the same as the other file system support requests we had recently, Saul may not understand that
Jun 12 09:13:40 <bluelightning> ant_work: you might want to point out that image_types.bbclass has this reference to cramfs-native that currently isn't provided
Jun 12 09:14:20 <ant_work> "Recipe is rather stable (tarball of v.1.1 dated 2002) and cramfs can
Jun 12 09:14:20 <ant_work> be handy for read-only images on legacy devices.
Jun 12 09:14:21 <ant_work> All the needed infrastructure is already present in
Jun 12 09:14:21 <ant_work> image_types.bbclass so I'd say this recipe has been mistakenly
Jun 12 09:14:21 <ant_work> forgotten when splitting out oe-core"
Jun 12 09:14:40 <ant_work> this was my first ping
Jun 12 09:15:16 <bluelightning> I doubt he saw that based upon his response
Jun 12 09:25:44 <ant_work> maybe try to add a second Ack, like Bruce
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Jun 12 20:39:16 <ant_home> bluelightning, hi
Jun 12 20:39:25 <bluelightning> hi ant_home
Jun 12 20:39:32 <ant_home> I'm logging an hob failure building cramfs :p
Jun 12 20:39:43 <ant_home> this should convinve Saul
Jun 12 20:40:07 <ant_home> well, I expect it to fail...
Jun 12 20:40:20 <ant_home> argh.. I have my patch in oe-core....
Jun 12 20:40:22 <ant_home> rebuild
Jun 12 20:41:20 <ant_home> btw hob is impreessive
Jun 12 20:41:27 <ant_home> amazing
Jun 12 20:42:15 <ant_home> fwiw works beautifully on actual Gentoo
Jun 12 20:42:25 <ant_home> (Gnome)
Jun 12 20:46:23 <ant_home> bluelightning, you said the fs-selection was broken. What's should I test?
Jun 12 20:47:35 <bluelightning> ant_home: indeed, hob has had quite a lot of work
Jun 12 20:47:59 <bluelightning> ant_home: the thing that is broken is extending the list of supported fs types
Jun 12 20:48:15 <ant_home> it seems it added my cramfs checkbox
Jun 12 20:48:25 <ant_home> and kept it for the second run
Jun 12 20:48:39 <bluelightning> hmm, maybe the bug got fixed recently
Jun 12 20:48:48 <ant_home> I'm rebuilding now after removing cramfs recipe
Jun 12 20:49:05 <ant_home> didn clear anything, just interrupted the build
Jun 12 22:40:23 <ant_home> bluelightning: Nothing provides 'cramfs-native'
Jun 12 22:40:24 <ant_home> http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=14117
Jun 12 22:47:38 <ant_home> GNUtoo-x60, I've sent you the recipe
Jun 12 22:48:13 <GNUtoo-x60> ok
Jun 12 22:48:49 <GNUtoo-x60> thanks
Jun 12 22:49:16 <ant_home> it's not that way, I thank you for looking at it ;)
Jun 12 23:06:16 <GNUtoo-x60> I didn't look at it yet
Jun 12 23:06:35 <GNUtoo-x60> remind me to do it if I don't respond to the mail in time
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