**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 03 02:59:58 2016 Apr 03 21:35:41 bluelightning, omehow we lost the keyboard input with new userspace...probably eudev vs. udev Apr 03 21:36:09 an old image with udev does work, even transplanted with recent kernel Apr 03 21:42:51 hmm, I wonder what's different about the behaviour Apr 03 21:50:41 I was holding on with new kernels because of this bug... 4.4-rc6 of 22 dec was ok Apr 03 21:50:57 but it is an issue in userspace Apr 03 22:02:41 hm.. there is the hddb, I thought it was made optional Apr 03 22:06:16 btw, under /lib/Udev there was once /keymaps now is missing Apr 03 22:06:39 as well as 95 kb rules Apr 03 22:52:11 bluelightning: I've debugged so far that today's eudev image works well with old udev rules Apr 03 22:52:30 I have to find the diff Apr 03 22:52:50 i.e. Apr 03 22:52:51 andrea@ThinkPad-T520:~/devel/tmp$ diff o n Apr 03 22:52:51 22c22 Apr 03 22:52:51 < KERNEL=="mouse*|js*", ENV{ID_BUS}=="?*", ENV{.INPUT_CLASS}=="?*", SYMLINK+="input/by-id/$env{ID_BUS}-$env{ID_SERIAL}-$env{.INPUT_CLASS}" Apr 03 22:52:51 --- Apr 03 22:52:51 > KERNEL=="mouse*|js*", ENV{ID_BUS}=="?*", ENV{.INPUT_CLASS}=="?*", ATTRS{bInterfaceNumber}=="|00", SYMLINK+="input/by-id/$env{ID_BUS}-$env{ID_SERIAL}-$env{.INPUT_CLASS}" Apr 03 22:52:56 24c24 Apr 03 22:52:58 < KERNEL=="event*", ENV{ID_BUS}=="?*", ENV{.INPUT_CLASS}=="?*", SYMLINK+="input/by-id/$env{ID_BUS}-$env{ID_SERIAL}-event-$env{.INPUT_CLASS}" Apr 03 22:53:01 --- Apr 03 22:53:03 > KERNEL=="event*", ENV{ID_BUS}=="?*", ENV{.INPUT_CLASS}=="?*", ATTRS{bInterfaceNumber}=="|00", SYMLINK+="input/by-id/$env{ID_BUS}-$env{ID_SERIAL}-event-$env{.INPUT_CLASS}" Apr 03 22:53:06 andrea@ThinkPad-T520:~/devel/tmp$ Apr 03 22:55:59 not the rules are in the source so were hidden when the switch udev-Z Apr 03 22:56:04 so somehow those no longer match Apr 03 22:56:08 udev -> eudev was done Apr 03 22:56:41 while the 'local' OE rules are the same Apr 03 22:57:29 http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=a22797f7c37a865420837b5c29b270f73ee4c6ce Apr 03 22:58:28 it seems the permissions do somehow differ i.e. for tty Apr 03 23:01:32 ok, I'll send a pull request soon Apr 03 23:01:36 good night **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Apr 04 02:59:58 2016