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Apr 18 09:06:00 <VartiWork> hi ant_work
Apr 18 09:08:59 <ant_work> hello
Apr 18 09:30:27 <VartiWork> I hope you had a happy Easter... you mentioned me you finalised a new release of kexec, and that you have already done some positive tests, am I correct?
Apr 18 09:36:03 <ant_work> it's a kernel patch for reading the real partitioning
Apr 18 09:36:12 <ant_work> we can remove that from kexecboot
Apr 18 09:36:50 <ant_work> basically with this patch (can go back to 3.x) you forget about Zaurus mtdparts=
Apr 18 09:37:56 <ant_work> so hopefully one single kexecboot kernel for akita/spitz/borzoi/terrier
Apr 18 09:38:47 <ant_work> like we already have for corgi/shephers/husky/boxer
Apr 18 09:39:40 <ant_work> if it wasn't for the size, we could unify in one single kernel for the pxa25x
Apr 18 09:39:52 <ant_work> poodle and tosa included
Apr 18 09:40:15 <ant_work> I think this will be done with devicetree
Apr 18 09:45:14 <VartiWork> ok, nice to hear that... do you have this release uploaded yet on LinuxPDA?
Apr 18 09:50:21 <ant_work> yes, it is actually under review
Apr 18 09:50:49 <ant_work> one stubborn kernel dev doesn't understand why we do that when we already do this in kexecboot
Apr 18 09:51:36 <ant_work> https://github.com/LinuxPDA/linux/tree/sharpslpart_v2
Apr 18 09:51:59 <ant_work> I'll add thi spatch to the actual (semi-broken) 4.10 linux-handheld
Apr 18 09:52:22 <ant_work> then we can backport it in the meanwhile even to 3.x
Apr 18 09:54:02 <VartiWork> ok
Apr 18 13:14:45 <HRH_H_Crab> hi all, im running a version of kexec boot with (i think) a 4.0 kernel.
Apr 18 13:15:10 <HRH_H_Crab> i was messing around at the weekend and found some stuff on the open embedded pages where some guys are playing with arch on their zaurus'
Apr 18 13:15:37 <HRH_H_Crab> someone has built a 4.9 kernel and i tried to get that working, but no joy so far: iirc potentially i have to upgrade kexecboot to boot newer kernels
Apr 18 13:15:40 <HRH_H_Crab> is that right?
Apr 18 13:15:59 <HRH_H_Crab> (or should older versions of kexec boot be able to boot new kernels?)
Apr 18 13:22:08 <ant_work> hi
Apr 18 13:22:17 <HRH_H_Crab> hey ant_work
Apr 18 13:22:22 <HRH_H_Crab> long time no speak! :)
Apr 18 13:22:26 <ant_work> if you have the correct boot.cfg it is ok even if older
Apr 18 13:22:27 <HRH_H_Crab> s/speak/type
Apr 18 13:22:31 <HRH_H_Crab> hmmm....
Apr 18 13:22:32 <HRH_H_Crab> o.k.
Apr 18 13:22:32 <ant_work> heh
Apr 18 13:22:37 <HRH_H_Crab> so then ive screwed something up.
Apr 18 13:22:38 <HRH_H_Crab> :)
Apr 18 13:23:05 <ant_work> about Arch you'll find more on OESF forums
Apr 18 13:23:15 <HRH_H_Crab> thanks
Apr 18 13:23:17 <ant_work> a couple of devs are around here as well
Apr 18 13:23:23 <ant_work> ..not yet
Apr 18 13:23:47 <HRH_H_Crab> i actually want to stick with debian (if i can) but i think they are eol arm after wheezy so might not be a bad idea to look at arch if i intend to keep these things "current"
Apr 18 13:24:04 <HRH_H_Crab> i might try copying over the zImage and just see how that works.
Apr 18 13:24:16 <ant_work> yep, maybe the modules as well
Apr 18 13:24:23 <HRH_H_Crab> mmm. idd.
Apr 18 13:24:44 <ant_work> note that past 4.4 things are b0rked
Apr 18 13:24:53 <ant_work> i.e no display, white
Apr 18 13:25:08 <HRH_H_Crab> did the guys that made all these "alarmz" things fork your kexecboot?
Apr 18 13:25:35 <HRH_H_Crab> as the documentation seems to talk about some special "arch-kexecboot" but i cant find it anywhere on github
Apr 18 13:25:53 <HRH_H_Crab> (i was relieved to find that the 'real' kexecboot was still pretty much up to date and active)
Apr 18 13:26:17 <HRH_H_Crab> and thank for the heads up re. 4.4
Apr 18 13:26:33 <HRH_H_Crab> i think the thing im trying to boot might be 4.9 so it could be that its even more b0rked!
Apr 18 13:36:40 <ant_work> there are some casual/untested builds https://github.com/LinuxPDA
Apr 18 13:38:24 <ant_work> 4.10 boots but needs a couple of fixes
Apr 18 13:38:37 <ant_work> 4.4 was ok, at least the one in OE
Apr 18 13:39:10 <ant_work> it had some sporadic issues with SD/MMC cards apparently but screen, sound, etc. was ok
Apr 18 15:04:10 <Varti> hi HRH_H_Crab
Apr 18 15:06:18 <Varti> you can find the latest arch-kexecboot here: https://github.com/greguu/linux-4.2.3-c3x00/releases/tag/v0.2
Apr 18 15:07:13 <Varti> otherwise, the official kexecboot as indicated by ant_work should work, too
Apr 18 15:07:56 <ant_work> I think gregu disabled th emtd detection
Apr 18 15:09:15 <Varti> yes, to speedup boot time
Apr 18 15:10:44 <ant_work> have to go, bbl
Apr 18 16:50:18 <HRH_H_Crab> Varti: thanks. however, if Ant is correct, then there should be nothing wrong with my kexecboot.
Apr 18 16:50:24 <HRH_H_Crab> maybe something not right in boot.cfg...
Apr 18 16:50:55 <HRH_H_Crab> maybe its because im using an sd card...
Apr 18 16:50:57 <HRH_H_Crab> :(
Apr 18 17:58:59 <Varti> is kexec failing to boot?
Apr 18 17:59:07 <Varti> on what model?
Apr 18 17:59:50 <Varti> SD cards are fine, as well as SDHC and (probably) SDXC ones
Apr 18 18:16:24 <HRH_H_Crab> Varti: nah, kexecboot works fine. im on a 3200.
Apr 18 18:17:34 <HRH_H_Crab> im dual booting debian on this bad boy just fine off the internal disk, but i tried to install a minimal arch to a 1GB sd card, and i made boot.cfg on there (adapted one of my debian ones) but i must have missed something.
Apr 18 18:18:19 <HRH_H_Crab> kexec boot sees it fine, (the boot.cfg on the sd card) and attempts to boot it (as far as i can see) but the kexec screen never disappears.
Apr 18 18:36:51 <Varti> a 3200, nice one
Apr 18 18:37:20 <Varti> I only have a 1000, and I'm testing both kexecboot and alarmz on it
Apr 18 18:38:40 <Varti> give arch-kexecboot a try, just in case
Apr 18 18:39:01 <Varti> AFAIK the default arch's boot.cfg should work out of the box
Apr 18 18:41:44 <HRH_H_Crab> there wasn't one in the tarball afaict
Apr 18 18:42:05 <HRH_H_Crab> but there was otherwise what looked very much like a rootfs
Apr 18 18:43:19 <HRH_H_Crab> i have 2 3200's actually. I bought a replacement as i thought id killed one but it turned out id only fried the psu.
Apr 18 18:44:38 <HRH_H_Crab> do i need a kernel-cmdline too?
Apr 18 18:47:07 <Varti> I just checked and there's a boot.cfg inside /boot
Apr 18 18:47:24 <Varti> are you using alarm-zaurus-c3x00-minimal-rootfs-october2016.tar.xz ?
Apr 18 18:48:16 <HRH_H_Crab> nah...
Apr 18 18:48:22 <HRH_H_Crab> i was using a minimal thing.
Apr 18 18:48:25 <HRH_H_Crab> hang on...
Apr 18 18:48:33 <Varti> I once downloaded and tried to boot ArchLinuxARM-armv5-latest.tar.gz for mistake, it is mentioned in the github page but that's just a generic armv5 rootfs
Apr 18 18:48:56 <Varti> brb
Apr 18 18:49:16 <HRH_H_Crab> https://github.com/greguu/ZALARM-install
Apr 18 18:49:22 <HRH_H_Crab> i was messing with this.
Apr 18 18:49:35 <HRH_H_Crab> but i found a bigger sd card so maybe i try your way... ;)
Apr 18 18:50:08 <HRH_H_Crab> maybe that is what i did.
Apr 18 18:50:58 <Varti> that should work
Apr 18 18:52:08 <HRH_H_Crab> man
Apr 18 18:52:16 <HRH_H_Crab> i used to love these things.
Apr 18 18:52:38 <Varti> make sure that you expand that archive on the SD, and that boot.cfg is already present
Apr 18 18:52:43 <HRH_H_Crab> now i see them on the shelf once every couple of years and struggle to maintain them as though i was getting paid for it.
Apr 18 18:52:47 <HRH_H_Crab> my god what has become of me?
Apr 18 18:52:54 <Varti> it's normal
Apr 18 18:53:12 <Varti> passions come and go
Apr 18 18:53:25 <HRH_H_Crab> i used to use these bad boys as a smart phone before there was a smart phone.
Apr 18 18:53:56 <Varti> at the moment I'm again hooked on my Z, after many years of just keeping it on the shelf
Apr 18 18:54:04 <Varti> hehe I can imagine
Apr 18 18:54:06 <HRH_H_Crab> (i.e. mpd in your pocket, and a terminal ssh'd into irc at home while you were on the bus via bluetooth-cf sharing the dumb phones connection...)
Apr 18 18:54:22 <Varti> I have watched two entire anime series with it
Apr 18 18:54:30 <HRH_H_Crab> heheh
Apr 18 18:54:39 <HRH_H_Crab> i still have really bad scripts
Apr 18 18:54:43 <HRH_H_Crab> for transcoding to z
Apr 18 18:55:01 <HRH_H_Crab> but i dont think framebuffer mpd works on my debian installs which are x-less.
Apr 18 18:55:06 <HRH_H_Crab> *mplayer
Apr 18 18:55:06 <Varti> and done a couple of modules with Milkytracker, plus wrote down notes during a club's meetings
Apr 18 18:55:23 <HRH_H_Crab> i did a lot of wardiving
Apr 18 18:55:38 <HRH_H_Crab> but i think i was using a community distro
Apr 18 18:55:40 <HRH_H_Crab> maybe amstrong
Apr 18 18:55:45 <HRH_H_Crab> or something else
Apr 18 18:55:54 <HRH_H_Crab> *wardriving
Apr 18 18:56:02 <HRH_H_Crab> i.e. kismet and the gps thingy.
Apr 18 18:56:16 <Varti> I still have to try out 480p videos on it, for convenience I always encoded everything to a VCD MPEG1 format
Apr 18 18:56:33 <HRH_H_Crab> is your battery still healthy?
Apr 18 18:56:54 <Varti> sort of, I still need to measure how long it lasts
Apr 18 18:57:14 <Varti> but I don't think it lasts more than 1hr anymore
Apr 18 18:57:45 <Varti> I'll eventually get a PSP - USB adapter and use an USB power bank
Apr 18 18:58:17 <Varti> we might try to convince some smaller batteries manufacturer to make new batteries for all the Z's hehe
Apr 18 18:58:25 <Varti> now, I really have to brb
Apr 18 18:58:50 <HRH_H_Crab> l8rs!
Apr 18 19:01:18 <Varti> I hope to be back in 1hr or so, nice talking to you anyway :)
Apr 18 19:01:32 <HRH_H_Crab> you too and thanks for help / advice!
Apr 18 19:15:13 <HRH_H_Crab> i am booting...
Apr 18 19:17:09 <HRH_H_Crab> nice the kernel, she boots!
Apr 18 19:59:42 <HRH_H_Crab> hey ant_home
Apr 18 20:03:27 <ant_home> hi
Apr 18 20:11:23 <ant_home> Varti, do you know if there are copies of http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/pdaxrom/download/1.1.0beta4/src/survive-1.1.0.tar.bz2 other than this?
Apr 18 20:11:58 <ant_home> should I ask ka6sox to put it in sources.openembedded.org ?
Apr 18 20:13:20 <ant_home> ka6sox, I had a couple of requests for endangered tarballs ;)
Apr 18 20:14:00 <ant_home> both in meta-handheld layer
Apr 18 20:14:49 <ant_home> the two recipes whose source is needed are:
Apr 18 20:14:54 <ant_home> http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-handheld/tree/recipes-bsp/zaurus-utils/nandlogical_1.1.0.bb
Apr 18 20:15:15 <ka6sox> ant_home, sure...where are the sources? and md5sum/sha256's for them?
Apr 18 20:15:16 <ant_home> http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-handheld/tree/recipes-bsp/zaurus-utils
Apr 18 20:15:25 <ant_home> in the recipe
Apr 18 20:15:29 <ant_home> hi Tom btw
Apr 18 20:16:05 <ant_home> the second one is incomplete link...sorry
Apr 18 20:16:10 <ant_home> http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-handheld/tree/recipes-bsp/zaurus-utils/zaurus-installer.bb
Apr 18 20:16:36 <ant_home> argh..am I drunk ?
Apr 18 20:16:56 <ka6sox> Hi! long time no see...
Apr 18 20:16:56 <ant_home> 2nd one: http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-handheld/tree/recipes-bsp/zaurus-utils/encdec-updater.bb
Apr 18 20:17:13 <ant_home> I don't trust this ibiblio stuff :)
Apr 18 20:17:39 <ka6sox> hmmm...ISTR that I pulled in Zaurus stuff a while ago...have to ask Paul about it.
Apr 18 20:17:42 <ant_home> ka6sox, I have done wonderful musical discoveries ;)
Apr 18 20:17:50 <ka6sox> oh? do tell!
Apr 18 20:18:02 <ant_home> itìs stuff from end '60 - mid '70
Apr 18 20:18:13 <ant_home> italian 'lounge', instrumental mostly
Apr 18 20:18:27 <ant_home> hammons ..a lot
Apr 18 20:18:31 <ant_home> *hammond
Apr 18 20:18:37 <ka6sox> ah...I remember being in some nice lounges in Hollyweird in the 70's
Apr 18 20:18:47 <ka6sox> it was a fun time.
Apr 18 20:18:52 <ant_home> I'll send you some links
Apr 18 20:18:56 <ka6sox> please
Apr 18 20:19:20 <ka6sox> can you email me the things you want? today is Tax Day and I'm still sorting things.
Apr 18 20:21:14 <ant_home> ofc
Apr 18 20:21:25 <ant_home> let me upload something in between ;)
Apr 18 20:21:55 <ka6sox> I can sort them right after I get done with these taxes being uploaded...
Apr 18 20:22:39 <ant_home> sad day
Apr 18 20:23:02 <ant_home> still you live with human percents..here it is getting excessive
Apr 18 20:42:36 <Varti> HRH_H_Crab: glad to hear it's working
Apr 18 20:44:19 <Varti> ant_home: ah, that's InSearchOf pdaXrom feed
Apr 18 20:44:40 <Varti> I remember seen at least another pdaxrom mirror,, let me check
Apr 18 20:46:41 <HRH_H_Crab> There is still a nasty bug with my wifi card though.
Apr 18 20:49:48 <Varti> what's the problem with it?
Apr 18 20:50:25 <Varti> ant_home: ftp://ftp.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/ibiblio/distributions/pdaxrom/src/
Apr 18 20:51:07 <Varti> there's survive-1.1.0.tar.bz2 in there, though it seems to be a mirror of ibiblio's feed
Apr 18 20:51:35 <ant_home> I'd prefer we keep these little files
Apr 18 20:51:46 <ant_home> in OE mirrors as well
Apr 18 20:52:25 <Varti> http://ftp.nluug.nl/ibiblio/distributions/pdaxrom/src/ too
Apr 18 20:52:48 <HRH_H_Crab> Varti: it works really well for a while and then craps out, and i need to bring the interface down, unseat it, reseat it and bring it up.
Apr 18 20:52:56 <HRH_H_Crab> it may be a power management issue.
Apr 18 20:53:04 <Varti> is it an Ambicom one?
Apr 18 20:53:19 <HRH_H_Crab> its a buffalo and uses the hostap driver afair.
Apr 18 20:53:40 <HRH_H_Crab> im updating arch atm but will check when its finished.
Apr 18 20:53:56 <HRH_H_Crab> i cant for the life of me remember how to pop open a virtual console.
Apr 18 20:53:58 <Varti> ok, because it behaves like my old Ambicom one, before it stopped working
Apr 18 20:54:27 <HRH_H_Crab> this has behaved like this when i moved to a 4.x kernel
Apr 18 20:54:40 <HRH_H_Crab> s/when/since
Apr 18 20:54:40 <Varti> and I have read it was a common problem for Ambicom cards, not sure for buffalo ones
Apr 18 20:55:27 <Varti> ah, so under an older kernel it works as expected?
Apr 18 20:56:08 <HRH_H_Crab> well, i don't currently have a way of testing that.
Apr 18 20:56:20 <HRH_H_Crab> so to be honest, i cant rule out that it is a hardware fault.
Apr 18 20:56:27 <Varti> you might want to wait for greguu, alarmz's maintainer, for help, he's away these days but he should be back soon, or open a thread on oesf
Apr 18 20:56:37 <Varti> I see
Apr 18 20:57:00 <HRH_H_Crab> well - its certainly no worse than the 4.0 kernel i have been running on debian, and if sound works maybe even better!
Apr 18 20:57:06 <Varti> ant_home: I agree, the more mirrors the better
Apr 18 20:58:08 <Varti> HRH_H_Crab: sound should work too, there has been another alarmz who has done a recent mame port, which is said to be working well
Apr 18 20:58:23 <Varti> another alarmz _user_
Apr 18 20:58:36 <HRH_H_Crab> are you using a cf wifi card?
Apr 18 20:58:42 <HRH_H_Crab> and if so would you tell me which one?
Apr 18 20:59:24 <Varti> I have not yet managed to install arch linux unfortunately, I'm testing kexecboot which is having some issues on my 1000
Apr 18 20:59:51 <HRH_H_Crab> aah.
Apr 18 21:00:36 <Varti> I have bought a Canon Wifi card some time ago, which I still have to test, they have been reported to be working at least under Cacko, and have WPA support too
Apr 18 21:02:33 <Varti> CF wiki cards are very hard to come by these days, unfortunately
Apr 18 21:02:40 <Varti> wiki=wifi
Apr 18 21:03:24 <HRH_H_Crab> i got a bluetooth thing here.
Apr 18 21:03:56 <HRH_H_Crab> maybe i can get some tcpip over that, or maybe a usb dongle if the thing has enough juice.
Apr 18 21:05:42 <Varti> for different virtual consoles, try Ctrl + Alt + Fn + 2/3/4
Apr 18 21:06:13 <Varti> for USB dongles, you'd most probably need a powered USB hub
Apr 18 21:07:45 <Varti> this is the card I have, it seems to be still available: http://www.dx.com/p/k30225-wi-fi-wireless-lan-cf-card-oem-11138#.WPaABe3OjVM
Apr 18 21:08:56 <Varti> and the related thread: http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25816
Apr 18 21:12:42 <Varti> have to go again, later
Apr 18 21:36:24 <ant_home> ka6sox, seems there are links http://parazitakusok.blogspot.it/2009/11/easy-tempo-vol1-10.html
Apr 18 21:37:57 <ant_home> ofc not all is gold
Apr 18 21:42:22 <ant_home> here one of these above, recommended for '70s JBL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP77-diUTiY
Apr 18 21:46:03 <ka6sox> kk...
Apr 18 21:46:08 <ka6sox> do you have my email?
Apr 18 21:46:32 <ka6sox> ant_home, where do you host kexecboot.org?
Apr 18 21:46:56 <ant_home> hm, I think it is moving right these days
Apr 18 21:47:04 <ka6sox> ah, okay
Apr 18 21:47:33 <ant_home> 6 days ago
Apr 18 21:47:35 <ant_home> JFYI, I've started domain transfer from reggi.ru (domaincontext.org actually) to namecheap.com.
Apr 18 21:47:35 <ant_home> This means there may be some issues related to DNS.
Apr 18 21:47:54 <ant_home> Jay7 was informing me
Apr 18 21:48:10 <ant_home> never heard of...
Apr 18 21:48:53 <ant_home> we already lost our binaries on the previous hosting :/
Apr 18 21:49:10 <ant_home> the wiki is on github fwiw
Apr 18 21:53:20 <ant_home> ka6sox, I have the tk@a*, that one?
Apr 18 21:53:58 <ant_home> try the d/ links on that page, I got the zips
Apr 18 21:55:19 <ant_home> pls do that on linux desktop...I don't know the site :p
Apr 18 22:00:05 <ka6sox> ant_home, correct
Apr 18 22:00:13 <ka6sox> okay thanks!
Apr 18 22:00:55 <ka6sox> you can rebuild your binaries? or you need hosting for them? or ?
Apr 18 22:05:25 <ant_home> these are old sources
Apr 18 22:06:22 <ant_home> it is difficult to rebuild 2.x or even 3.2 kernels today...gcc,binutils,..all is too new
Apr 18 22:07:22 <ant_home> but yes, we could rebuild
Apr 18 22:08:56 <ant_home> you see, I always hope the next kernel will be the 'good' one so I rebuild now and then linux-kexecboot with the current one
Apr 18 22:09:13 <ant_home> I'll have to stop soon: kernel size is blowing again
Apr 18 22:09:50 <ant_home> actually we should maybe rebuild these 'old' 3.2 kernels...
Apr 18 22:11:18 <ka6sox> funny to say taht 3.2 is "old"...i remember when I started calling 2.2 kernels "old" :)
Apr 18 22:11:53 <ant_home> he he, I quote it for that reason
Apr 18 22:12:25 <ant_home> btw, let me ask Jay7 once the domain is moved: we would really have a second copy of these binaries
Apr 18 22:12:36 <ka6sox> okay
Apr 18 22:12:44 <ant_home> just linux-kexecboot I'd say, precompiled
Apr 18 22:13:06 <ant_home> I'll ask you soon, thank you again
Apr 18 22:13:07 <ka6sox> if you need space let me know..I have space @ OSUOSL for hosting binaries (same place as oe.org)
Apr 18 22:13:38 <ant_home> imagine 110-20 MB, not more if we keep old and new versions
Apr 18 22:13:46 <ant_home> ..errr  10-20
Apr 18 22:13:50 <ant_home> not 110!
Apr 18 22:14:17 <ka6sox> I have several project that have 500GB or more of binaries.
Apr 18 22:14:24 <ka6sox> so that is not an issue to support
Apr 18 22:14:32 <ant_home> okay
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