**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 11 03:00:02 2017 May 11 09:39:00 bluelightning, hello May 11 09:41:38 I didn't bump PR after touching that couple of zaurus-utils May 11 09:41:55 do you think I can just get rid of PR? Set a PV? May 11 09:46:55 hi ant_work May 11 09:47:57 I have mentioned you in this thread: http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=34551&hl= May 11 09:48:46 I hope all I wrote about badblocks is correct May 11 09:48:51 hi VartiWork, I'm very busy these days... May 11 09:49:04 np May 11 09:49:31 I am trying to polish the ugly code in the updater.sh but this will take more time May 11 09:49:40 I'll add just my new part at first May 11 09:49:45 ok May 11 09:49:55 ..and I was thinking about adding a badblock-check menu May 11 09:50:26 because there is badblock binary available May 11 09:50:30 that would be useful, so you won't have to boot into diag menu just to check this May 11 09:51:12 normally the bad blocks are detected and marked as such in factory May 11 09:51:55 in my experience with Zaurus I have never seen a new bad block appearing May 11 09:51:56 fwiw May 11 09:52:01 are there tools to remap them under jffs2, on mtd1 and 2 which, if I understand correctly, aren't handled by the mtd driver? May 11 09:52:19 iirc badblock was born for block devices like hdd May 11 09:53:11 mtd1 / smf must be kept intact, it has its own management May 11 09:53:36 the remapping routine takes badblocks in account May 11 09:53:52 my 2 cents, don't touch it May 11 09:54:10 mtd2 and mtd3 are managed by the normal nand driver May 11 09:54:15 well, holovector claims his badblocks are new ones, and I remember some threads of people with bad blocks in NAND soldering a new flash in place of the old one May 11 09:54:22 both are under control of MTD subsytem May 11 09:54:56 ok May 11 09:54:56 I have on the C860 one badblock in mtd1 and one in mtd2 May 11 09:56:16 so, as I get it they are remapped as well? May 11 09:56:16 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/badblocks May 11 10:00:58 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=229103 May 11 10:00:59 ant_work: if we bump PV we can get rid of PR yes May 11 10:01:20 hi, they are versionless atm May 11 10:03:33 VartiWork, with MTd there are subtle issues like bitflip and eccerrors with modern nand May 11 10:04:25 http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/tech/mtdnand/x144.html May 11 11:00:58 VartiWork, finally, "NAND memory apparently gets shipped with blocks that are already bad. The vendor just marks those blocks as bad, thus resulting in higher yield and lower per-unit cost. " May 11 11:15:42 VartiWork, are you proficeint with busybox shell scripts? May 11 11:50:29 in the past I have done some shorter bach scripts, but nothing busybox specific May 11 11:55:36 I am not used to that syntax, I come from an old era... May 11 11:56:11 anyway, I am pretty sure the code can be cleaned May 11 11:57:01 these refinements are not urgent however, maybe some friend on OESF can spend some time on it May 11 11:57:19 I'll go beack trying to fix the kernel now May 11 11:57:44 *beack = onomatopeic sound to express disgust thinking back at it May 11 11:58:33 brb **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 12 03:00:02 2017