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May 13 07:41:23 <ant_home> bluelightning, there are 15 patches in queue
May 13 07:41:50 <ant_home> then we can finally add tags
May 13 08:17:21 <greguu> ant_home : Just catching up with what you posted over the last weeks
May 13 08:17:39 <ant_home> hi
May 13 08:18:05 <greguu> what CF cards are known to work in the Zaurus ? I just bought a Sandisk Ultra 8GB an it does not register. I guess it is UDMA only.
May 13 08:18:26 <greguu> Zaurus does only PIO modes?
May 13 08:19:21 <greguu> hi
May 13 08:19:48 <ant_home> I am pretty sue there is pxa dma but I have to check
May 13 08:27:40 <greguu> the hitachi microdrive runs in PIO 4 as far as hdparm shows
May 13 08:27:58 <greguu> bugger, I will have to find a PIO compatible CF card
May 13 08:28:43 <greguu> is there actually a benefit over SD cards ? I have a CF to SD card adapter and it works well. Is a pure CF still the "better" choice ?
May 13 08:29:44 <greguu> so PIO 4 max out at 15-16 MB/s, I doubt the Zaurus would handle more.
May 13 08:37:27 <greguu> ant_home : new kernel, I downloaded 4.11 but have not started yet. Sharpsl issue ?
May 13 08:39:49 <ant_home> I have yet to test it but last 4.10.x boots, but white screen
May 13 08:41:35 <ant_home> I have now finished with the partitioning stuff, will try to debug
May 13 08:42:07 <ant_home> I'll build one more round of patched linux-kexecboot 4.4
May 13 08:42:22 <ant_home> to cope with repartitioned devices
May 13 08:45:22 <greguu> ok, great. do you think adding F2FS support will fit in the kexeboot kernel ?
May 13 08:46:35 <greguu> afaik the white screen is because of the SPI patches that made it in 4.7 or so
May 13 08:46:44 <ant_home> yep, anc clock
May 13 08:47:03 <greguu> hard to fix ?
May 13 08:47:58 <ant_home> have yet to see, don't think so
May 13 08:48:01 <ant_home> btw CONFIG_F2FS_FS=y
May 13 08:48:04 <ant_home> already
May 13 08:50:18 <greguu> great
May 13 08:50:47 <greguu> do you hardcode the boot timeout or is it now parsed from the boot.cfg ?
May 13 08:51:04 <ant_home> I never used it but should be read
May 13 08:51:33 <ant_home> there is an hardcoded delay for the cards to pop up
May 13 08:51:33 <greguu> I think kexecboot 6.0 did not work with the timeout in boot.cfg. my kexecboot kernel I had to hardcode it.
May 13 08:51:56 <greguu> 0.6 I mean
May 13 08:52:23 <ant_home> can be broken, I never tested that irc
May 13 08:52:45 <ant_home> there are patches for kexecboot around, Jay7 promised to refactor
May 13 08:53:58 <greguu> so we can expect one kexeboot kernel for all Cxx00 ?
May 13 08:54:12 <ant_home> ah, yes
May 13 08:54:40 <ant_home> in OE we have to keep one for any machine but once built it is the same
May 13 08:54:58 <greguu> ok, great. What was the updater.sh update about? I have not tried it yet, It seems the chagnes are about NAND partitions ?
May 13 08:55:06 <ant_home> yes
May 13 08:55:29 <ant_home> you can have 120M root
May 13 08:55:43 <ant_home> and 1M home
May 13 08:55:58 <greguu> hm, not sure, I did change my NAND partitions to UBIFS but never resized the
May 13 08:56:07 <ant_home> 120M is ok for a decent ubi image
May 13 08:56:22 <greguu> hm, Arch does not fit in there
May 13 08:56:58 <ant_home> remember is compressed
May 13 08:57:13 <ant_home> how big is the tarball?
May 13 08:57:17 <greguu> still, the roofs is already 300MB extracted I think
May 13 08:57:23 <ant_home> heh
May 13 08:57:44 <greguu> arch is bloated
May 13 08:58:01 <ant_home> do you have the commands to produce jffs2/ubifs?
May 13 08:58:24 <ant_home> we use optimized params for Z
May 13 08:58:37 <greguu> no, I never tried to pack Arch in the NAND
May 13 08:58:48 <ant_home> ok, I'll download and see
May 13 08:58:50 <greguu> I just created a UBIFS, default
May 13 08:58:59 <greguu> my NAND is empty
May 13 09:00:55 <greguu> well I think LZO would work but XZ compression may be a bit too slow ?
May 13 09:01:22 <greguu> have you tried XZ on UBIFS ?
May 13 09:03:43 <greguu> second thought, I could have the kernel sit in NAND at least, maybe a busybox, dropbear, minimal rootfs could fit.
May 13 09:04:31 <greguu> but then, /usr would grow quick and /var needs to be on the CF too
May 13 09:04:45 <ant_home> for spitz
May 13 09:04:46 <ant_home> MKUBIFS_ARGS = "-m 2048 -e 129024 -c 968 -x zlib"
May 13 09:04:46 <ant_home> UBINIZE_ARGS = "-m 2048 -p 131072 -s 512"
May 13 09:05:15 <greguu> ok, I take a not of these
May 13 09:05:23 <ant_home> for 3000
May 13 09:05:25 <ant_home> # MKUBIFS_ARGS = "-m 512 -e 15872 -c 576 -x zlib"
May 13 09:05:25 <ant_home> # UBINIZE_ARGS = "-m 512 -p 16384 -s 256"
May 13 09:05:43 <ant_home> this one has older nand
May 13 09:06:45 <greguu> I cant get over the fact that Alpine Linux does not have an armv5tel port. It would fit for sure.
May 13 09:06:52 <ant_home> greguu, I don't care too much about writing the flash
May 13 09:06:57 <greguu> Thanks ant for these, I will try
May 13 09:07:13 <ant_home> surely var on card will help in the long run :)
May 13 09:08:08 <greguu> I guess having a minimal rescue partition on the NAND would be a thing worth doing. Busybox and some tools etc, maybe some network drivers and dropbear
May 13 09:08:34 <ant_home> you can have much more than this on nand..a full QT distro i.e.
May 13 09:08:56 <ant_home> OPIE was only 16M
May 13 09:09:47 <greguu> true, but nowadays...OpenWRT may be ok too, but their PXA suppor is not that great I think
May 13 09:10:00 <ant_home> lede you mean?
May 13 09:10:23 <ant_home> I am following in the spare time but is more for routers
May 13 09:10:42 <greguu> yes lede, too
May 13 09:11:11 <greguu> yes for routers, but you get a good console only distro with good package support
May 13 09:11:35 <greguu> busy box , musl based
May 13 09:12:07 <greguu> reminds me to update my router
May 13 09:14:10 <greguu> looks like their PXA is gone already, closest is ixp4xx, but that is big endian I think, or both
May 13 09:15:47 <greguu> https://downloads.lede-project.org/releases/packages-17.01/armeb_xscale/
May 13 09:16:04 <greguu> I guess the Zaurus can do big endian too, but the bootloader is little endian right ?
May 13 09:19:40 <greguu> this was the link I intended to post https://lede-project.org/docs/instructionset/armeb_xscale
May 13 09:33:37 <Varti> greguu: at least with older ROMs, with CF cards you don't have the size limitations as with SD ones. Maybe the CF slot is faster than the SD one, too, but I'll have to check this in the forums
May 13 09:35:22 <ant_home> for sure people did replace the internal hdd with 8GB CF
May 13 09:35:45 <ant_home> was one of the first mods
May 13 09:37:07 <greguu> yes, even 32GB was confirmed.
May 13 09:37:26 <greguu> The SD to CF adapter registers as a PIO0 ata device
May 13 09:37:35 <ant_home> but that is a different controller
May 13 09:38:33 <greguu> but the SANDISK ULTRA 8GB, does not registrer at all, just a card inserted message in dmesg
May 13 09:38:44 <greguu> The sandisk does work in a CF to USB adapter
May 13 09:38:58 <greguu> I guess it does not support PIO modes
May 13 09:39:37 <greguu> the SD to CF adapter has its own controler to get the SD card to talk to the CF bus, PIO mode 0, it works fine
May 13 09:40:13 <greguu> with SHDC cards same as the inbuild SD slot
May 13 09:40:53 <greguu> I have to benchmark but the adapter has better performance as the inbuilt SD slot with the same card, not a big difference
May 13 09:42:09 <greguu> I yet have to compare this to a real CF card and not to the microdrive, as this is quite slow
May 13 09:51:00 <ant_home> Varti, about the mainte_fix.bin necessary for some models, it is Cacko 1.23 installer
May 13 09:51:15 <ant_home> at least I think this is the last one
May 13 09:51:27 <Varti> aha I see
May 13 09:51:31 <ant_home> do you know about newer Cacko's?
May 13 09:51:39 <Varti> no, there are none
May 13 09:52:04 <Varti> there's a thread with a wishlist for Cacko 1.24, but AFAIK nothing came out of it
May 13 09:52:13 <ant_home> I don't like much the idea, iirc initially it was a patch
May 13 09:52:27 <ant_home> now we need the binary
May 13 09:52:50 <ant_home> and I don't see any for 3200
May 13 09:53:39 <ant_home> I think they released it as binary because it was simpler for the users
May 13 09:54:00 <Varti> lunch time... later
May 13 09:54:40 <ant_home> bbl, will dive in the archives
May 13 09:56:46 <ant_home> Varti, seems there are same bins in pxa installers, for 3200 as well
May 13 09:57:50 <ant_home> I'll ask you and ka6sox to upload somewhere once the latest are found
May 13 09:57:55 <ant_home> bl
May 13 09:58:34 <ant_home> http://members.iinet.net.au/~wyso/myZaurus/pdaXii13/akita/
May 13 10:05:42 <ant_home> fwiw same binaries
May 13 10:06:15 <ant_home> btw cacko and pdaxrom for 3100 and 3200
May 13 21:27:44 <ant_home> bluelightning, I created jethro, krogoth, morty and pyro branches
May 13 21:27:56 <ant_home> pls pull master and these as well
May 13 21:27:58 <ant_home> https://github.com/LinuxPDA/meta-handheld
May 13 21:28:02 <ant_home> thanks
May 13 21:49:56 <ant_home> btw..let me 10mins to reupload all :)
May 13 23:39:49 <ant_home> bluelightning, is ok now
May 13 23:40:16 <ant_home> I have removed one poblematic patch, for pyro and morty
May 13 23:40:23 <ant_home> https://pastebin.com/MrktWgp9
May 13 23:43:38 <ant_home> with ^ I get
May 13 23:43:40 <ant_home> ERROR: Layer 'meta-handheld' depends on layer 'meta-oe', but this layer is not enabled in your configuration
May 13 23:44:29 <ant_home> my working bblayers.conf lists it:
May 13 23:44:31 <ant_home> BBLAYERS ?= " \
May 13 23:44:31 <ant_home>   /oe/oe-core/meta \
May 13 23:44:31 <ant_home>   /oe/meta-handheld \
May 13 23:44:31 <ant_home>   /oe/meta-openembedded/meta-initramfs \
May 13 23:44:31 <ant_home>   /oe/meta-openembedded/meta-oe \
May 13 23:44:32 <ant_home>   "
May 13 23:47:20 <ant_home> hm.. this must be the openembedded-layer
May 13 23:49:38 <ant_home> yep, I'm fixing that
May 14 00:02:06 <ant_home> gn
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